Then the cheat makers look at the code and write cheats that won't get caught...

cevo's paladin is just as proprietary as esea's client.

http://i.imgur.com/CuMmNns.png

Enough of my sob story. Lets talk about cheaters

I seen alot of cheaters. tf2 and csgo. Lets get some things cleared up.

STREAMING DOES NOT JUSTIFY THAT YOU ARE LEGIT

spider streamed
hitman streamed
vez streamed
netex streamed
countless other warz players caught while streaming.

"I looked at his demos/stream/pov and they didn't look like they were cheating"
Decent private cheats are visually undetectable. Feel free to look at the demos of these banned players and you will find nothing blatent. These players know how to hide their cheats. They don't cheat everyround. They know how to hide walls. They were discovered at a software level.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unhdt-hWYOw
This video looks legit and thats the scary part. Any good player could hit these shots. I can only laugh when I see posts about overwatch. Overwatch would have been a good idea if it was 2005. Decent private cheats are too complex to be seen visually.

So when some shitty like insom gets a vac ban for playing csgo and this community wants to go easy on him all I can say is go fuck yourselves. insom has an average of 6rws on esea and someone like him has the nerve to say that "everyone cheats on mm so its ok if I can to". After spider was caught cheating he went on stream just like vez and hitman are right now. They all have the same attitude and insom sounds just like them. He will not be unbanned from #tf2mix. I hope Fog keeps him banned as well. The tf2 community has always been too soft on cheaters and always will be. When pingu took over pug.na, the new admins decided to wipe my 4 years worth of bans to "start with a clean slate".

its not badlands.

I started playing in s12 and had a choice to join highdef or Hammertime. I ended up joining Hammertime, which consisted of a bunch of crossfire players. They had the skill, but played the game like crossfire and not counterstrike. I ended up leading the team we did fairly well during the regular season. We beat c2 on nuke and played a very close overtime match against Remixs team (future monomaniacs). We played in ESWC 2012 and qualified out of the 300 teams in the open bracket and into the invite bracket. Ended up losing to mSpaz in a close series. Playoffs came around and they had to focus on WCG Crossfire (They went to china). We scrimmed highdef a lot during s12 and never lost to them. High def ffl to us in the regular season. Somewhere during the regular season of s13 Hitman left the team. They had recruited some new sketch players. Hammertime had decided to focus on Crossfire and I left the team.

my good friend deM backed up for another team called Syops. They played a game against us that went triple OT on aztec (s12 had shit maps). deM played with Syops in a playoff match vs highdef and the new sketchy squad.

http://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=3246638

2 weeks later Spider and cadillac were banned for cheating.

http://i.imgur.com/VP9y9gK.png

http://play.esea.net/users/380331 r0yhearttawa
http://play.esea.net/users/391849 yablowkid
http://play.esea.net/users/445403 brOski
http://play.esea.net/users/573827 roN
http://play.esea.net/users/530908 wyrm
http://play.esea.net/users/175920 RaGaMuFFiNs

At the start of s14 I had decided to form a team with deM and some new players. We had a lot of time and tried out a lot of people. All of the players listed above were tried out. Multiple scrims. The squad was me, deM, syn, jonjon, and some 5th that we never ended up finding. We played about 30 scrims with Kuppers as a ringer. Kuppers was awful and no one thought he cheated, but he is still banned. We needed someone for our first match so we picked up broski. Broski was awful. No way he was cheating when we played with him. Team broke up; syn went to golly, jonjon and broski ended up joining KING. Hitman joined a main team then team hopped his way up to invite by s15. Vez joined c2. deM and I stopped playing.

Kuppers was banned over the summer

So during this weekends ban wave
vez was banned from c2
hitman was banned
wyrm was banned
these players were banned from KING
broski
dEEz
ForgiveN
LeiseR
DuRtY

I'm sure you wouldn't feel bad for Hitmans teammates if you heard STATUTORY_APE's stream last night.
I'm going to make a large post when I get back home. I've played with serveral of these players. In league, scrim, ringed.

check page 2

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1qv28i/psa_hitboxtv_is_essentially_own3dtv_the_current/

its not badlands

raped idiot

its not badlands

nothing stuck, tobin now up to 3 lanes. a start to a good week

i usually go ask yaug about woman suffering

its 2013 you can stream and cheat at the same time while being undetected.
http://play.esea.net/users/496659
plenty of warz cheaters who stream as well.

http://i.imgur.com/fF9VC.jpg

http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/26524-Cheater_at_WCG_Brazil_qualifier