You could argue how great an effort they actually made. I think they scrimmed exactly 1 night in the weeks leading up to LAN. Also they had roster issues at the last minute. And are you arguing that them stomping IM would have been better than them getting stomped in invite?
No i'm saying they we're that much of a better team than anyone in IM last season, and they still got stomped. Did they try - absolutely at LAN, but ya they could have practiced more. But an IM team that already doesn't have their heart in playing invite seeing this team lose is even more of a turn off.
Not wanting to be invite does not mean you should keep the same roster in IM just because they don't want to play invite. It's not good for the IM division to have a top team just sitting there for multiple seasons just because they don't want to try hard. No, maybe it's not good for the team to force them into invite, but it is good for the division.
I will agree with this to a point - but that was DTP's first season in IM correct? If they rode out a top seed multiple season in a row, then yes i agree they have proved themselves as not only a good team, but a team that sticks together. Then at that point they should be up for an invite vote.
Very few teams would be willing to try something like this. People don't want to be forced to pickup new players with no guarantee how they will perform or how well they will get along with each other. Teams have to enjoy playing with one another and have to be confident in one another's abilities. This is kind of comparable to the highlander invite player limit and it is equally dumb. People are going to play who they want to play with.
Exactly my point - people shouldn't be forced to do something they don't want to. If they aren't going to enjoy it, whether its starting over with new players or being moved to a different division...it won't be fun.
because if a team wins IM and then goes to killing and says "listen, we don't want to play invite", killing can't just let them sit in IM or it will destroy the division. Who is going to sign up and pay for playing in IM if the same teams are going to just sit at the top season after season because they are afraid of losing or afraid of the LAN or whatever.
Once again i agree with this to a point - if it's an IM team that has finished in the top 3 multiple seasons with the same roster then yes they need to be placed in the vote. However there's still nothing stopping them from breaking up if they don't want to play. At the same time though, who wants to pay for invite when the same 3 teams with the same mix of players dominate season after season. Once again, what's for fun some may not be fun for others..and vice versa.