A big issue in discussing gun control is the media/general public's ignorance towards guns. Let's take the AR-15, big scary black assault rifle, right? Not really. The caliber (.223) is about the same as most hunting rifles, and most AR-15s manufactured are semi-automatic, such as the one used in the shooting. Given the circumstances, a pistol or hunting rifle could probably done as much damage in the shooting in Orlando (in fact a pistol was also used in the Orlando shooting). There is almost no reason to ban a weapon that accounts for less than 2% of all gun deaths in the U.S. while also being as deadly as a hunting rifle and pistol in terms of caliber and fire rate respectively.
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#25
AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN
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The Dumpster
Enterimmatt-its simple: kill all muslimswhy are calls for literal genocide being upfragged? this is fucking disgusting
sar·casm
ˈsärˌkazəm/
noun
the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.
posted about 8 years ago
#39
Percy LFT Scout S21
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Recruitment (looking for team)
Percy is cool
Plan is a retard give me +frags
posted about 8 years ago
#36
top open/IM
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Recruitment (looking for team)
Mc is amazing in terms of his dm and his knowledge of the game, but I cannot speak about him as a teammate because the only team exp I have with him is when he carried me in silver (lol).
As far as I know he is very chill and has been nothing but nice to me since I've met him.
posted about 8 years ago
#163
Mass shooting in Orlando
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Off Topic
BarryChuckleTurinGun laws don't prevent terrorism, look at Brussels and Paris.
Sure it might lower petty crime but with the state of poverty in inner cities, knives will be used instead.
Please explain to me how someone is going to walk into a crowded area and kill 50 people with a knife.
SpaceCadetGuns are not to blame for these shootings. Crazy is to blame for these mass shootings. In my opinion, the only way to combat these crazy shooters is to have responsible trained gun owners around who are armed and prepared to respond in defense of their life...
It's crowded, it's noisy, everone is screaming, maybe it's dark, there's a stampede, and you don't know what the fuck is going on. You don't know who the shooter is or where they are. You pull your gun out: what are you going to do? Shit there's a guy with a gun, better shoot him! Except that was also a concealed carry John Wayne cowboy who thought they could be a hero, and you just shot him dead. And killed the person behind him. And now someone else is shooting at you. Is this the original shooter, or do they just think that YOU'RE the shooter? Fuck knows, better shoot them.
tl:dr introducing a bunch more people with guns to a situation l ike this is unlikely to get FEWER people killed, unless they were ridiculously lucky enough to be in postiion to end it as soon as it starts.
Anyway arguing the "what ifs" about whether concealed carry citizens would help or not in these situations is pretty pointless, because all of the statistics point to one simple fact: the more gun owners out there, the more gun deaths there are.
America has a huge problem and I honestly can't believe how many otherwise reasonable people are just sticking their heads in the sand and pretending widespread gun ownership is a good idea regardless of what happens over and over and over again. Guess I'll see you in the next thread after the next mass shooting defending gun ownership while people bury their loved ones.
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I mean it sounds unrealistic but mass stabbings are real and they can get especially deadly when a group of people go on mass stabbings together.
Also, a murderer could easily be deterred into walking into a place and shooting it up if 5 or 6 could be armed. The introduction of armed security guards could also deter shooters.
By the way, I really like that a lot of us can have civilized discussion on politics. This is what politics is about: working with others and their idealologies to solve a problem and not just blindly slinging shit at anyone who opposes you.
posted about 8 years ago
#120
Mass shooting in Orlando
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eeeTurinI'm not sure how assault weapons are any more dangerous than normal guns. The assault weapons ban was used to stymie gun control advocates who aren't properly educated on firearms. A hunting shotgun is just as deadly as an AKM in a crowded space.banning automatic weapons or military grade weapons basically only hurts small groups of rich hobbyists, the people least likely to use a gun like an idiot. Banning handguns would produce a much stronger effect on crime but way more people own handguns and attach utility to them, leading to way more public and lobbyist backlash. Gun laws in most countries are almost 100% backwards and ineffective because the people who are against guns tend to argue from hypothetical and moral stances rather than pragmatics imo
A weapons bill that reduced restrictions on higher end weapons and didn't touch hunting rifles but severely limited who can own a handgun would be super great. A lot of states have taken the first step with limiting permits or CCWs to a higher age for handgun owners.
Do you mean limit in a sense of "only x amount of permits can be given out In one year" or "x requirements must be met to require a gun"
The only "requirement" I'm against for getting a CCW is needing a "reason" for owning a gun. I always found that a bit too stringent.
posted about 8 years ago
#117
Mass shooting in Orlando
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TurinI'm not sure how assault weapons are any more dangerous than normal guns. The assault weapons ban was used to stymie gun control advocates who aren't properly educated on firearms. A hunting shotgun is just as deadly as an AKM in a crowded space.
Not to mention the majority of gun deaths in the U.S. come from guns that aren't assault rifles.
posted about 8 years ago
#78
Mass shooting in Orlando
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Off Topic
SchweppesMelonTFthis is why i dont trust reddit lol, why censor newsThey allowed the discussion when it was mostly people assuming it was some christian redneck, prompting gun law discussion. When the FBI stated they have evidence the shooter has ties to radical islamist groups, they locked and removed the thread, created a new one and started removing every comment mentioning the world 'islam' 'muslim' or 'censorship' because it doesn't fit their agenda
I mean this Is reddit we're talking about. It's so easy for them to act as a news source but at the same time push an agenda cus they're basically ran by children.
posted about 8 years ago
#76
Mass shooting in Orlando
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Schweppeshttps://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/4nql8f/orlando_nightclub_shooting_megathread/
shooter gets identified as muslim with ties to jihadist groups, and everything gets censored
https://www.unreddit.com/r/news/comments/4nql8f/orlando_nightclub_shooting_megathread/
posted about 8 years ago
#65
Mass shooting in Orlando
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Off Topic
See how long it took for the thread to go to shit?
posted about 8 years ago
#25
ESEA S22 W1: froyotech vs. RONIN
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Matches
Yomps and shrugger combined 86 frags
posted about 8 years ago
#37
ESEA-Invite S22 W1: froyotech vs. -bird noises-
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Events
Holy shit sigh pounded.
posted about 8 years ago
#86
Ronin cuts phorofor, poaches Nursey
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News
tfw ur more upset about phorofor killing bird noises than being cut from ronin.
posted about 8 years ago