are they gonna be forcibly charged the extra money to be in main too

9 teams huh.

God Bless Our Troops

https://i.imgur.com/VeRW0Y8.png

https://i.imgur.com/eATfCej.png

what do I do about this?

edit: nvm, if anyone runs into this, just copy paste the actual text version of your install path instead of using the browse button like i was trying to do

cool video idea but picking on a new player like that...? seems like it was too easy

if you are american:
pugs.tf.plus

if you are european:
tf2pickups.eu

if you are anything else i dont know

corn syrup and processed meats

you're fat and gay

probably worst thread in a while

i think open pugs are completely fine and i can only think of one blatant alt that ive seen playing RGL pugs and i think he is banned now anyway. i think the only reason open pugs can be bad sometimes is when theres a big disparity in skill between the players added up and creates uneven pugs, but thats better than never getting to play at all honestly. im also very glad most of the adv/inv players are playing captain pugs now, because getting raged at by higher level players was so unfun and getting rolled by them was even less fun

however i do also maintain there shouldn't be elo gains and losses for pug wins/losses. it should be a fixed value based on your highest level played (with maybe a cutoff, if you played advanced in like, season 3 with a 6-6 record and havent played in a trillion years) and then it should stay that way and be used to balance the pugs, similar to tf2pickup

i feel it necessary to ask why we need zesty jesus' sign of approval when he's been caught dropping slurs left and right all the time and generally is not a very good guy

i feel like the biggest hurdle we need to overcome for this "discussion" is that the reality is 6s might as well be a different video game from tf2. it takes everything good about tf2 (movement, high risk/high reward guns) and leaves everything that is not necessary for a competitive environment (huge team sizes, maps not conducive to coordinated play, silly/overpowered weapons)

the identity of 6s vs the identity of tf2 to people who have either not played 6s or not played tf2 in general are so vastly different that trying to get a pubber into 6s is like trying to get someone into TF2 for the first time. either they like what's on offer by 6s or they are completely content with their silly mode (which there's nothing wrong with enjoying, i like to pub from time to time too)

its also hard to convince a pubber to want to play if they main an offclass, especially stuff like pyro or engie that have practically no transferable skills to the 6s classes. why would i learn a whole new class i don't even like to play competitive?

i had to explain to a group of friends that in 6s, the classes are hardly even classes anymore. they're more like weapons in the buy menu in CS. you just can't get away in CS with running a P90 every game at the high level, but at the low level you might, and even at the high level the P90 might have some uses on some particular rounds, but not enough to main all your time into practicing it

https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-ywGkypicbRTs1kyT-m7ONvA-t500x500.jpg

im not weighing in on if this guy is or is not cheating, but please don't make videos trying to showcase evidence if you don't know how cheats actually work