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looking to play pocket or demo in main
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KZSirPineAppleDoughySirPineAppleBumFreezesorry i dont want to spoil any more, i want to see if you understand it. i might message yomps on steam though if you wantI mean sure, If i dont understand it, guess i'll learn some more
This proves all outrage against b4nny in this thread if a (presumed) follower questioning our ideals doesn't understand b4nny's own argument.
Tell me b4nny's argument
His argument is that he doesn't want to spoil things and wants to see if we get it and will message yomps if he is curious.
Also, I know that you are a loyal b4nny sub and this discussion might not be for you unless you wanna be open-minded about things.
Sure im a loyal b4nny sub, but if b4nny says something stupid, sure i will disagree with him. Just cause i follow someone doesnt mean when they something stupid i'd still follow in their footsteps. that beings said i dont think removing the medic buff is the right choice
DoughySirPineAppleBumFreezesorry i dont want to spoil any more, i want to see if you understand it. i might message yomps on steam though if you wantI mean sure, If i dont understand it, guess i'll learn some more
This proves all outrage against b4nny in this thread if a (presumed) follower questioning our ideals doesn't understand b4nny's own argument.
Tell me b4nny's argument
BumFreezesorry i dont want to spoil any more, i want to see if you understand it. i might message yomps on steam though if you want
I mean sure, If i dont understand it, guess i'll learn some more
BumFreezeif ur not trolling:
2 of your "pros" are actually just cons that lower the skill ceiling of the game and are super forgiving to people in bad position. both would also apply if med had 200 hp, but that doesnt mean its a good change.
pocket has not been "constantly healed" for the last 4 years of this game, medic positioning hasnt "improved", they just dont get punished for being out of position due to scout running. roamer is harder bc now scouts are better and medic dodging is waaaaay easier. exchanges and small ads being discouraged just leads to game being less fun, teams being less proactive, and more stalemates. as for 10 you are simply braindead its just not true
Okay i agree with the Pocket not being healed, Do you think that exchanges will change because of the medic speed? I'd think it would be less successful of an exchange if you lose the medic speed. I can see why roamer would be harder in certain situations, but i dont think roamer would change in anyway if you took the medic buff away or still had it.
ScrewBSirPineApple1.Have no idea how this buffs the scout in anyway,Stopped reading here
ignorance
Can someone at least give a counter argument to what i said
mustardoverlord"SirPineApple" I have no idea who you are but I don't think you belong in this discussion friendo
SasukeUchiha_TRADETFSirPineAppleScrewBSirPineApplepositivesYeeHawSo what do you think are the positives and negatives of the medic speed buffKZb4nny explaining why medic speed buff is a good thingsetting up a question so he can just beat u over the head with it later if u get it wrong...very cool and good faith behaviour
https://clips.twitch.tv/MoistFlaccidDadFutureMan
- ???
negatives
- Buffed the already borderline OP Scout class
- Devalued pocket Soldier
- Dumbed down Medic positioning
- Dumbed down rollouts
- Made Roamer's job even more difficult
- low advantage pushes and even exchanges are no longer anywhere near as viable because Medics can just run away at scout speed
- dry pushes are even more difficult because Medics can hold close safely making stuffing choke easier and sacs harder increasing stalemates
- started the incredibly annoying and boring mid rotation meta on Process style maps
- dumbed teamfights down to whoever has more scouts alive
- heal management? LOL JUST HEAL SCOUTS
okay I will respond by how you order the pros and the cons.
What you see as cons, I see as pros
MyPros
1.Medic has more survive-ability
2.able to leave fights more easily
3.Faster rollouts
YourCons
1.Have no idea how this buffs the scout in anyway, If your thinking that a medic pocketing a scout and the scout being invincible seems very wrong, this is a team based game, the combo would so exposed to various amounts of fire and could barely survive. But if you were playing this with your team 6v6 why would the medic be healing 1 person out of the 5 other players???
2.Pocket is a vary important player in the 6's league, hes constantly healed in order to fight thing attacking him and the medic, He can spam choke points that the scout wouldn't be able to do.
3.I think the medic positioning has improved more than it being devalued, The medic can adapt more than if it didn't have the speed buff.
4.The rollouts are quicker and easier now, don't know how that's a con.
5.How? did he sudden lose something that the others have.
6.Well its called an exchange for a reason, you really don't want you're own teammates dying in the exchange, cause you're just using each others uber, and hoping you can kill someone in it.
7.If the chokes being stuffed just go somewhere else??? don't know what the problem there is.
8.survive-ability is key in most fights, you dont want to be dying for no reason, so just rotating around the map is the right choice. Just cause you don't like it doesn't mean you get to speak for the entirety of the competitive community.
9.Yes scout are an important class for killing people, but without the damage of the demo or solider, its a lot harder for the scouts to be about to kill, so its more down to which team has the most players in order to hold an area.
10.Not so sure where you're getting this data from but from most logs,scouts are being health less than the demo and soliders.
WHAT
Give me something more than WHAT, I have no idea what that means
ScrewBSirPineApplepositivesYeeHawSo what do you think are the positives and negatives of the medic speed buffKZb4nny explaining why medic speed buff is a good thingsetting up a question so he can just beat u over the head with it later if u get it wrong...very cool and good faith behaviour
https://clips.twitch.tv/MoistFlaccidDadFutureMan
- ???
negatives
- Buffed the already borderline OP Scout class
- Devalued pocket Soldier
- Dumbed down Medic positioning
- Dumbed down rollouts
- Made Roamer's job even more difficult
- low advantage pushes and even exchanges are no longer anywhere near as viable because Medics can just run away at scout speed
- dry pushes are even more difficult because Medics can hold close safely making stuffing choke easier and sacs harder increasing stalemates
- started the incredibly annoying and boring mid rotation meta on Process style maps
- dumbed teamfights down to whoever has more scouts alive
- heal management? LOL JUST HEAL SCOUTS
okay I will respond by how you order the pros and the cons.
What you see as cons, I see as pros
MyPros
1.Medic has more survive-ability
2.able to leave fights more easily
3.Faster rollouts
YourCons
1.Have no idea how this buffs the scout in anyway, If your thinking that a medic pocketing a scout and the scout being invincible seems very wrong, this is a team based game, the combo would so exposed to various amounts of fire and could barely survive. But if you were playing this with your team 6v6 why would the medic be healing 1 person out of the 5 other players???
2.Pocket is a vary important player in the 6's league, hes constantly healed in order to fight thing attacking him and the medic, He can spam choke points that the scout wouldn't be able to do.
3.I think the medic positioning has improved more than it being devalued, The medic can adapt more than if it didn't have the speed buff.
4.The rollouts are quicker and easier now, don't know how that's a con.
5.How? did he sudden lose something that the others have.
6.Well its called an exchange for a reason, you really don't want you're own teammates dying in the exchange, cause you're just using each others uber, and hoping you can kill someone in it.
7.If the chokes being stuffed just go somewhere else??? don't know what the problem there is.
8.survive-ability is key in most fights, you dont want to be dying for no reason, so just rotating around the map is the right choice. Just cause you don't like it doesn't mean you get to speak for the entirety of the competitive community.
9.Yes scout are an important class for killing people, but without the damage of the demo or solider, its a lot harder for the scouts to be about to kill, so its more down to which team has the most players in order to hold an area.
10.Not so sure where you're getting this data from but from most logs,scouts are being health less than the demo and soliders.
YeeHawKZb4nny explaining why medic speed buff is a good thingsetting up a question so he can just beat u over the head with it later if u get it wrong...very cool and good faith behaviour
https://clips.twitch.tv/MoistFlaccidDadFutureMan
So what do you think are the positives and negatives of the medic speed buff
HerpTimI like the juicy hypocrisy from b4nny. On his streams and on yomps' stream they discuss with each other why these plugins are only benefitting the competitive players and disregard all other (casual and new) players, yet in the twitch clip he comes up with the most bullshit excuse to dodge that explanation. "It would spoil it". Has he ended up telling what good does the med speed buff bring or no? Because if not, he has had a hand in enforcing a change that ONLY HE knows how to use for "growing the game", in reality stagnating it into shit.
So what do you think are the positives and negatives of the medic speed buff