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#21 ETF2L and the Fresh Meat Challenge #2 in TF2 General Discussion

Right, I'll go over this one point at a time. This has already been thoroughly explained in our discord, but I'll go over it again.

MatZerIn the round of 16 in play-offs, we faced off against a Ukrainian team named [ՈoᗯЛаЯ ᗰOлЛИ](http://etf2l.org/teams/31770/). We ended up losing the 2 maps, but the enemy team had a suspicious player in their roster. [Match link](http://etf2l.org/matches/75447/) They had a private profile and were singlehandedly carrying the team to victory. We decided to report it to ETF2L admins, after which they banned him for being over experienced and gave us a default win, thus advancing us to the quarter finals. We were obviously pretty happy about that and we thought it was just an isolated incident.

This is completly irrelevant to the case at hand. Futhermore, I don't believe we have ever banned a whole team from a competition when we caught one of their players cheating. Unless there is obvious proof the team was aware of the player in question cheating.

MatZerIn the match we played against that team, they played with a guy named nicoapkm. So what's wrong with this player? He had UGC Platinum experience. https://imgur.com/a/HSbHsSh - nicoapkm UGC record , he was playing plat games for example - http://logs.tf/1895671 .Since this is a competition for newer players, using a platinum player in a match is obviously forbidden. Again, the player was rostered, it wasn't a merc. How did the admins even let them be in the team in the first place?

The player in question (Nico, https://www.ugcleague.com/players_page.cfm?player_id=76561198118334319) does indeed have UGC experience. However, UGC SA doesn't have any skill tiers. Trying transfer the skill from this division to our system is nearly impossible as there is no indication of how good these teams are. That being said, he did win or place near the top of the board a couple of times on top of having multiple seaosn under his belt. On top of that UGC doesn't count matches and thus it is impossible to do a total match count like we did for ETF2L players.

He did however not break the skill limitations set by us for this cup. This is a mistake from our part, we should have anticipated for South American and further for Australian players. Once it was brought to our attention that this player was playing in the cup we removed him from the roster as he clearly didn't embody what this cup is about.

posted about 5 years ago
#4 You have successfully voted for: GrumpyKoi in TF2 General Discussion

He was all over discord with his MAY puns. Someone stop this man

posted about 5 years ago
#1 Name change in Requests

I'd like to have my name change to Sodium.

posted about 5 years ago
#44 ETF2L admin credibility in TF2 General Discussion

Hello, a little word from the admin in question here who took the initial request by LR made on our discord. I'll help clarify some things.

TimTum
What are you talking about? You can't see timestamps in the chat log, but they clearly warned them:
RED NeuTronas: Each team has a 2 point limit (3 for Highlander). If you reach the limit you will be punished.
BLU hamaham - formerly scout: 2 out of the 2 points we can have :D
RED shpee (gone wild): we're just warning you of this :)
BLU hamaham - formerly scout: we can play with him :)
RED NeuTronas: you reached the limit

It's not the responsibility of LR to check if everyone on Surstromming's roster is allowed to play. They even warned them as far as I can see while they could've said nothing at all. Surstromming should've checked with the admins, but instead they responded with 'unlucky, he can', 'we can play with him :)' and 'unlucky :))'

As clearly shown here Surstromming was or could have been fully aware of the fact that playing with swi could have consequences.

hamahamThey contacted admins AFTER the map as well, they got permission to replay map or play golden cap and later on after both maps had been played got permission to take default apparently? Why didn't they just force us to replay the map? All admins told me was to play scout or get defaulted

This is simply not true, neutronas' official request on discord was made before the game started. I responded to the request after the match had already begun and explained to him that Surstromming was indeed breaking a rule playing with swi. After that I discussed with the other admins the best course of action going forward seeing the circumstances furthermore, I already had the information provided to me stated in quote #1. I made clear our decision to him while the first map was under way still. As neutronas didn't immediately I supposed he was to busy playing the game. After the game the results were submitted as per usual and we didn't hear back from him. It's at this point the admin team made the decision we made, in no way were we influenced by anyone on team LR.

hamahamOther than that, i agree that the admin saying "Restarting the map with Swi on med would be more fair, unless you don't feel the need to." does indeed sound like if they choose not to restart the map, they implicitly agree that the way it was played was fine.

So yes, the communication of the admin(s?) was not great in this case, however i do not think that it changes the outcome.

I don't know where this line got lost in translation, I never stated "unless you don't feel the need to" but rather 'unless they don't feel the need to'. However I do agree on the second point you make, at that moment communication between me and bloodis could have been better but wouldn't have changed anything about the rulling in this case.

posted about 5 years ago
#257 Ban Pred and Degu v2 in Off Topic

Okay let me get this straight, we as an organisation shouldn't ban good players because they succeeded as a good player. Furthermore they can do/say whatever they want just because they are good players.

I think you are missing the point that these players are indeed the face of a league by playing at the highest level and should therefore act accordingly to the role they play for the league. People will always watch their actions more no matter what happens.

posted about 6 years ago
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