For anyone looking for RAM that is cheap but good, get any micron memory with AES in the part number. I have a 3000 mhz kit, It's 70 dollars and will overclock past 4000 mhz. Currently I run it at 3600 mhz with cl14 17 17 34 timing with rock solid stability.

This is what I bought, but anything with AES uses the same chips. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MGPH9R9
there's no real reason to get anything else unless you're looking to spend in excess of 100 dollars on memory. it's pretty much a perfect fit for ryzen, and it's good value on intel as well.

I'll add you on steam about possibly picking you up. I am coming down 81 from new york but Im bringing a lot of computers because it seems like every other invite player didnt get a rental. space is kinda limited. if you have another option please take it.

Yes exept the power button broke so now it doesn't even have that

I have a second spare pc if you can bring a graphics card.

sent you an fr about loaning you a pc for lan

https://www.twitch.tv/spaceghostscoffee_/clip/SmoothArtsyClipsdadCharlieBitMe

probably something like this. could probably even go for a 9600k https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RHgTyX

I'm from the rochester area. I can defiantly give you a ride.

My memory speed was at 3000 for a long time and I only recently got it running at 3200. Also the site that demo is on is sketchy AF. it has nothing to do with being old.

I know the cpus are quite a bit different, but in the end it really doesnt matter. I damn near matched my friends 4770 with in a few % in terms of fps. This started with me watching him on twitch and noticing he was getting pretty bad frames, and I was like, huh, the 4770 doesn't have the bad of IPC, why are his frames so bad?

I started by using passmark to match my single threaded performance to his. And after doing that, I still got pretty good frames, way better than what he had. So then I was like, huh, the cpu speed should be the same, but I never touched my ram, and thats a lot faster still. So I dropped my ram speed to 1600, adjusted the timings, and suddenly I lose a bunch of fps and I'm getting more or less the same fps he his. I probably lost 30+ fps on average just from adjusting the memory speed.

I used 9-9-9-28 for 1333 mhz. I used 10-11-11-30 for 2133. I choose 3 ghz as a middle ground between SB and haswell. A haswell i7 would be quite a bit faster as they run close to or over 4 ghz. Also my cpu has about a 10-15% IPC advantage. It would be cool to see someone with a 4790k and 2133 or 2400 mhz ddr3 test my results. It would also be cool for someone with high speed memory like 3600 can check to see if it scales that high. I'm getting about 8 fps per 200 mhz all the way up to 3200.

I used my own demo because the download for the demo in the beginning of the thread is sketch AF. I ended up getting the demo from a friend after i did all the testing and didn't want to redo it.

I5-8600k @ 5.2 ghz
16 gb 3200mhz 15 16 16 32 timing (2800 mhz rated) dual channel ddr4
vega 64

2639 frames 9.695 seconds 272.20 fps ( 3.67 ms/f) 17.228 fps variability

mastercomfig medium low
dx95

Now for something different

5.2 ghz
1333 mhz: 174.46 avg, low 90
2133 mhz: 218.83 avg, low 130
3000 mhz: 236.56 avg, low 150

3 ghz
1333 mhz: 131.68 avg, low 70
2133 mhz: 147.19 avg, low 90

The lows are not exact. they were all above the number but never below.

these are some more tests I did to test the effects of memory speed. I did my best to adjust timing to be in line for the averages of those speeds. I used my own demo on upward for this.I would love to see how even faster memory can effect fps but i can only overclock mine to 3000. the 3 ghz test is to try and mimic an ivy bridge or haswell cpu running ddr3. each test was ran 3 times. I did the log off and cancel trick to close all unnecessary tasks

Im not at all surprised you're getting fps drops with that cpu. It was a middle of the road cpu when it was new. A 4790k would help significantly, especially when overclocked, but it's still pretty pricey and needs a good cooler.

You could probably hit 5 ghz with that cooler if your chip is any good. 4.8 would be a pretty mild/safe OC though. I can run my 8600k at 4.8 ghz with 1.28 volts which is well within that cooler's capabilities. The H7 is one of the best budget coolers you can buy.

No. If anything the game will run better without the hyper threading. Not sure if TF2 will but CSGO does run better without it. It's pretty marginal though.

Dell xps's are pretty nice. You can get one with a quad core i5 and a gtx 1050 for around 1000 usd. Not sure what that would be in euros. DDR4 isn't cheap right now though so getting 16 GB's is going to cost you