It's not your fault really, I still don't understand why ETF2L include maps that aren't complete/RC, if you add a map that's in beta to a map pool PLOT TWIST IT MIGHT NOT BE RECEIVED WELL.

Not only that but the massive hype the EU double mix circlejerk gave it was also really bad for the map, especially as everyone was thinking it was amazing when again, people in double mixes won't always try and there's no consequence for losing, you won't find out how shitty pushing or holding various sections of the maps are because nobody is trying to win that bad.

It's probably best to just ask tf2pickup.net to add a newer version in rotation and still talk to the double mix guys to get some more feedback, just take it with a pinch of salt when someone says x is good but y is fucking terrible..

logjam not being in the map pool is probably the best thing that could have happened to the map as now you won't be rushing to "fix" shit to make it play better for the new season.

Is it NA only?

How do I do dis?

What time?

Oooooh mirelin :(((((((((((

nobody says it does work, their management system seems to suite a small company which valve isn't anymore. same type of problems apply to dota2 & csgo (ghost walking, tek9, smokes, hit reg, server issues, pathing, half finished features).

i agree that they should really prioritise performance, bug fixes, balancing etc. with source 2, especially as Overwatch is trying to gun for TF2 (which might be the renewed interest in matchmaking), you can't really expect such inconsistent performance on a game this old.

Matchmaking can work, however, I don't know if Valve realise how much work it's going to take to make a working 6v6 system. CSGO and Dota2 public to competitive is pretty much identically bar a few excluded heros and round timers, TF2 has a completely different ruleset, unlocks, class restrictions, maps etc. which they need to address first.

dont forget about valves management system where you can work on almost any project, you aren't tied down to one game.

not only that but i'd imagine they'd increase in numbers for future features/updates (like this)

probably a pyro main

IM SO ERECT IT HURTS

Cave doesn't need to be changed, there's nothing wrong with it, I like how it plays out as it gives a very good alternative to pushing mid and 2nd.

So far on middle this is the best change atm, however, again it's going to be mega difficult to push with all these stupid sniper sight lines, not only that but as I mentioned in my stream defenders can gain way to much intel and spam time on the enemy before they can even start to get close.

I'll say this for like the 89th time, you are changing way to much just because a few people whine about how difficult x is in the map, people that are complaining that shutter on last is hard to push? The same thing partially applies to gullywash shutter and badlands last.

Main thing is this map is being changed so much that there isn't time for metas to really settle on the smaller sections of the map.

To me the only thing that needed fixing was middle, some sightlines and a few tweaks at last, but you seem to change loads of stuff just to please everyone.

seeing this makes me more upset that the efforts of these people aren't more wildly recognised in tf2, the effort and dedication is incredible, thank you.

joined and invited,

can you draw me?!

i would give a testicle for ones of these, only reason why i dont have an FK is because it doesn't feel comfortable and this has a similar shape to the AM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2QjYAI5S-Y

was it inside or outside?

I am incredibly erect.

It runs really, really well. I'm so happy it's not like GTA4 on PC.