This concerns me a little. I'm all for making profit from the league, it's only logical being a business and all, but how is this going to affect us as a community once you start making $$$? Are we gonna have to pay league fees? Are we gonna have to sit through ads when checking in for a match? or something else that directly or indirectly affects us. Personally I'd be fine with ads or fees or whatever it could be as long as the league is good, but I think it would be beneficial for everyone if this is clear and known before we decide to move into a league that just might turn into another flavor of ESEA in time.

Another thing that worries me is having dedicated TF2 admins. I'd say a big reason why killing and kalkin are(were) respected as esea admins is(was) because they have been competitive players, they understand the game, they understand our needs, and from that perspective we can sort of trust that they're making (or at least tried to make) the best decisions for the good of the game. In that regard, I also think that for this purpose a payed admin is needed, as common sense dictates me that a volunteer won't put in the effort to face and deal with major problems in the name of a corporation that is making profit out of his work.

Besides these particular concerns, I believe CEVO is the league we should go to if we're to ditch ESEA forever, since they have proven to have interest in reaching to our community and have kept the tf2 league running even after S1 went from 100 teams to about 20 in a matter of weeks and there are very few teams playing in S2.

please be trolling 6 figures guy

im ok with this

from My Custom Platinum T-Shirts thread

regretable but also makes room for some new blood.

I agree with owl, I'm fine with ETF2L whitelist and ruleset overall but I don't think a low div teams could handle 2 maps a week and have fun with it. It's hard to figure out your role in a map when you're a new player imo.

Other than that, if there are no league fees and no prizes, I guess CEVO would be a better option right now, since they have no fees and prizes, and they also already have the servers and the interest.

Count me in for programming

I live in a country where catastrophes happen periodically and when the most recent one stroked, a big earthquake, almost the whole country went out of electricity and supplies for like a week, not to mention houses were destroyed and there were a lot of material loses beside the lives lost. Having to deal with all of it, the least thing I would be thinking of if I was her would be checking facebook.

omg that one is amazing

I feel like I live in another dimension because for me youtube is the laggiest streaming service I've ever seen. Streams freeze every 10 seconds to the point where it's annoying to watch. Even own3d was better than youtube in my experience.

type in chat !hud so you don't have to care about points, then type in console hud_saytext_time 0 so you dont have to read trash talk, then type in console voice_enable 0 so you dont have to hear trash talk.

I can't agree with this. Yes, there are 3 higher divisions above this one, but for a player who has never been in nor won any of them, winning open is a big deal and is an accomplishment he could and should be proud of.
What you're saying is that you could let a top main team play in any UGC 6s division and the admins should be like: hey it's cool man, it's just UGC.

if you hit the front of the toe and it's looking like that it should be broken dude, go to a doctor and never post shit like this again

the revenge

I enjoyed your cast Shwan, please do cast more

-shade and harbleu when indust joined HRG/iT