TF2 cooking show, Brad can host.

You're pretty underrated :-)
There was a movie from a guy called Otis in the boneyard comp that I quite liked. Hadn't heard of him before.
Not going to list overrated people :D

Hrm they should be fine, do you get it with all demos? Sometimes the players config can result in laggy demos (you can see this in a couple of bonez' videos). But I suggest recording at at least 240fps anyway.

I wasn't a judge on the boneyard comp.

I used to use MeGUI but use Adobe Media Encoder now. And I use premiere CS6 as opposed to vegas.

I'm getting heaps of problems too.. am just watching it on my tablet since it works fine on there

Much faster, weaker weapons, more movement options (walljump, dash, dodge etc), and there's other game modes like bomb (similar to cs). because of the extra movement options its easier to maintain momentum so you can get ridiculous speeds. I still prefer Quake but its a really fun game. And I love the art style.

If you mean mod a game to fit a theme for a frag video probably not, at least not to the extent of Tron Fortress, but if you mean for stuff like SFM then that's definately a possibility. Those kinds of projects take a lot of work though so I won't do anything like that again in the near future. And I wasn't very pleased with Tron Fortress - it was pretty rushed and I would prefer to build my own assets for something like that.

Basically just keep everything in uncompressed/lossless formats for as long as possible, make sure you record footage at a high framerate and resolution, encoding with a high bitrate, etc. Then of course there's things like using a 32-bit workflow, etc. For rendering/encoding, I use Adobe Media Encoder, it's pretty simple to use and has great performance, and I just stick with pretty much the default 1080p H264 template, but playing with the bitrate, framerate, frame blending, etc.

Yeah, my intention wasn't to say old films aren't art, I was just using it as an example to say that frag videos CAN be art, but that simply being a frag video doesn't make it art. Of course there are always countless definitions of what art is, and a lot of it is highly subjective. I probably shouldn't have used film as an example since I didn't mean to suggest there is no creativity in film, merely that the primary, mainstream role of film is as a product rather than a work of art, which is secondary to selling tickets.

I was just trying to say that if something is intended as artistic by its creator, or if a work has some sort of meaning for a viewer, it can be art. But in my view just frags of a game in a video isn't artistic in itself. Just like I wouldn't call highlights from a football game art. Look up documentary mode, I think a lot of that applies here.

I wouldn't call a Michael Bay movie art, it's a creative product, but that comes down to whoever is watching it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GYVj9D-rVk

To me they're both entertaining if they're well done. But you can have shitty minimalist videos and great videos with lots of effects. Amazing effects can be entertaining but have the potential of getting in the way of actual content.

A LOT of work has to be done to make more complex effects not look half-assed, and to do that usually requires a lot more experience and resources you usually find from people on youtube (although SFM is already starting to improve things in this regard).

On the other side minimalist videos can be fucking boring without good content. Minimalist videos only work when there is great content that is worth watching.

For frag vids I like a balance of some creativity with music, editing, effects, etc., but anything over the top gets annoying quickly.

Film has always been commercial and it's only in the last few decades that it's become an 'art form'. My point was that a frag video is just a video of frags. But it CAN be art. But just by being a frag video does not make it art.

- Probably broder
- Cooller 2010/2011
- Can't think of anything in particular off the top of my head sorry
- 'Electronic music' is a very broad term.. it basically just means 'music from the last 20 years.' Music that's reasonably fast paced that's reasonably dynamic tends to be the most interesting.
- b4nny

Not in it's current form but there's definately the potential there and it's something I discussed with Robin a long time ago. If they do pick up in popularity and start being seen as the key place to find content for TF2 then sure, it could help frag vids be more visible, but due to the public nature of TF2, SFM/funny content will always be more popular. Just look at /r/tf2 to see what I mean, then realise the vast majority are dumber than that (e.g. steam forums).

9/11

Video copilot's basic training is really good for After Effects. There's a ton of good tutorials out there for photoshop, premiere etc. thenewboston on youtube has a lot of good stuff: http://www.youtube.com/user/thenewboston/videos?flow=grid&view=1

Stick to simple two-point moves and play with the field of view and you'll get a more cinematic look. Also learn about shot composition, framing etc.

I haven't voted yet. Honestly I was pretty unimpressed by all the videos from that contest. Cube's video was pretty entertaining though and actually had players I'd heard of before.

I cant eat chups

Not by definition. But neither are feature films - take from that what you wish.

Using too many songs of different genres in one video

Seeing all the cool work other people produce gives me ideas for cool stuff to make. And often I'll listen to a song that I get stuck on for weeks that I imagine being awesome for a video. The one I used in the TLR/Dave soldier video I'd been wanting to use for a good 8-10 months before I actually made that video.

I don't have a favourite video of mine - I don't tend to watch them much after I've finished making them.

I'm doing a Digital Media degree here in NZ which is pretty broad but I'm pretty heavily focused on the video stuff. I'm interested in the whole industry around digital media and have been since I was pretty young, making websites etc. I always wanted to make movies/videos of some kind but gaming videos was a pretty easy option for me to actually dig in and make something, and learning that has helped me a lot as it's great experience going through the whole development of a project.

For colour correction keep any changes you make very subtle. Anything too over the top just gets in the way and is pretty obnoxious. And stick to proper colour correction tools like Colorista, Colour Finesse and SpeedGrade. Look up professional guides on colour correction before messing too much with them. Since you're working with footage from a game the only 'correction' you should be doing is countering the effects of youtube/h264 compression, the rest is grading.

480 -> 60 is pretty good, 240 as a bare minimum. I haven't made any TF2 videos in a while but from what I hear srcdemo2 is pretty good. If you have the patience/machine power to record from higher than 480 go ahead, but after 960FPS you can't exactly tell much of a difference. Stick to multiples of your output framerate, 60 is a good target as you can just halve it to 30FPS for a youtube version.

Learn about structure, timing, mood, music, theme, style, etc.. there's so much to editing. As an editor your job is to bring everything together in one package.

With gaming vids you're generally in control of everything from the content to the style, etc. so a good thing to do is pick on a style/a song and plan a structure and flow and stick to it. If it's an open community video or something this is likely to be a bit more difficult to decide on something, but for individual/team/tournament videos there's generally some kind of mood/style/branding you're going to want to incorporate.

Lots of editors end of having videos that aren't too interesting as they are pretty lacking dynamically. You want to have a range of different areas in your video that have different paces/mood/etc. The Cooller video is a pretty good example of this done well - pay close attention to how the content and pace tie in with the soundtrack (including commentary).

A lot of the time if what you're doing is incredibly open it can help to give yourself a few restrictions - whether it be to commit to a project for someone else, to set a goal, an arbitrary deadline or whatever - some of the best work comes from working within limits. When I make videos I make sure every one is distinct from one another, using a different style/communicating a different message each time.

Bringing all the different parts together well is what makes for great editing. You can have all the flashy effects you want or have the most amazing content but if it isn't edited in a way that allows the viewer to have an enjoyable experience, and to understand what's happening, it won't be very successful. That's not to say there's a specific way in which everything has to be edited - it comes down to what you want the end product to be. Grid's new movie is a pretty good example of great effects and bad editing.

you tell me

dunno man, have thought about doing something with i46 demos but afaik extine has 'exclusive rights' to them :/

At the risk of being flamed for yet another 'AMAxD' thread, I know there are a few moviemakers in the NA community and there are probably a few more who might have questions so..

I'm decap, I run Torn Productions, made shitty movies like ~y0y0tecH~, used to help run pldx, and have taught a bunch of people shit about making videos.

The last video I released: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUPlwxQ0cC4

Ask me anything about moviemaking, tf2, or why subtitled is the best moviemaker ever.

also this should have a movies section

the fuck

when did this happen