#186 i cant honestly word this any other way, just refer back to what i said and think about this. ESEA is and always will be the premier league in north america for multiple competitive games. It has been around for years and years, and a lot of people put all their time, patience, effort, money and all the bullshit in between to give gamers a league that provides dozens of servers in different locations, client, stats, news, playoffs on lan every single season. NA TF2 is probably the smallest comp scene i have ever seen. EU is a lot different...but seriously its to the point where everyone knows everyone. there is no in between, you would need double the amount of people with twice as much time on their hands to give this community what ESEA has, don't think about it as oh hey why not just take all that premium + league fee money and toss it into a prize pool, servers etc and have everything that they have? it is seriously much more complex than that. if it was that simple it would of been done a long time ago.