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lucrativeConsole-andrew-So why was my post removedwasnt anything that broke the rules, was probably a misclick nuke. restored
I hope banning people who are openly racist isnt against the rules
I can point you to a few post histories that would suggest otherwise...
wait where the fuck is bumbo
why did you do this to me team bumbo
anyone casting/streaming their pov for the game 2nite? ?
sheepy_dogs_handhaha yes of course, how could anybody possibly see this coming
sheepy_dogs_hand
I disagree and think this and many other attacks CAN be prevented.
funny how you didn't say the same thing about the NZ shooting even though that guy literally posted pictures of the guns he used covered in racist iconography two days in advance
I wonder what made him so elusive and this attack so preventable??
phr's cs team just 16-0'd fnatic lol
so were the millions of people complicit in the holocaust (including the thousands who were literally carrying it out) literally another species of human being? were they all just pure sociopaths? or do years of dehumanization and racist ideology eventually create people like this?
or put a different way: it is a statistical fact that right wing terrorism has been massively on the rise in the last few years. if this violence is just senseless and impossible to contextualize, then we must conclude that each and every one of these acts of right wing terrorism was committed by someone who, if not for the present moment enabling them to pick up abhorrent racial views on top of everything else, would've still killed a bunch of people anyways, just for completely inscrutable and pure nihilistic reasons. I'm sorry, but I just don't believe that.
tragedies will always happen, but if you're gonna tell me that the way muslims are depicted in the media and pop culture, let alone in these great replacement/death of europe screeds on the internet, has absolutely 0 effect on how likely a shooting like this is, I just can't co-sign that view.
as an aside, this might be the single most depraved, tone-deaf response I've ever seen a politician give after a mass shooting (including trump):
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1r0KX3X0AAWviI.jpg
kyaabig time rage noob
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/023/397/C-658VsXoAo3ovC.jpg
tfw tri speaks lies to u :<
I was gonna write a big-ass post about ben shapiro but I think I've already wrote too many nerd essays for now so let me redirect y'all to the definitive article about him which I was gonna post but CaptainZidgel already did:
https://static.currentaffairs.org/2017/12/the-cool-kids-philosopher
MelonTFso youre telling me that a group dedicated and open to acknowledging their belief in far far right ideology (nobody on pol is going to deny this) somehow represents the majority of people (99% of people do not, in fact, use imageboards) who enjoy humor at the expense of a group of clowns?
really a large part of the value in humor related to dark topics is to emasculate topic being discussed; youre making those who are legitimately hateful into the butt of a joke
you are walking down a very interesting path if you think that joking about a topic means that even a minisecule portion of the jokesters are somehow going to join hitler youth
if there were literally no context regarding someone like pewdiepie other than him saying the n word once, of course it would be ridiculous to bring him up. unfortunately that's not the case at all, because as previous people in this thread have said, he has played a part in tacitly making extremely far right "thinkers" socially acceptable, and inadvertently helped spread this sort of stuff.
compare an abridged list of pewdiepie's political twitter follows:
https://preview.redd.it/binovkw6a8m21.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=1821fbb9d7041f69d17b9c12f21630307d51ba86
with the favorite twitter accounts of the quebec shooter:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbjnwcdV4AAL6aB.jpg
notice also how, for people like this guy, there doesn't seem to be much of a distinction between open white nationalists like richard spencer and people who would vociferously deny that label like ben shapiro, paul joseph watson, and stefan molyneux. this is the point: VERY few people actually read the daily stormer, or follow richard spencer, or post on /pol/. but then, the stuff they obsessively post about black crime or muslim rape gangs or whatever gets aggregated by breitbart or the daily caller, or discussed on fox news, or brought up by these "alt-light" figures, and it reaches a wider audience. most of them will never act on their beliefs beyond just voting republican and memeing online, but I really do believe it serves as a gateway drug to the harder shit like richard spencer. do you think all those /pol/ nazis just woke up one day and decided jews in the media were making interracial marriage look socially acceptable to prepare for white genocide? or did they gradually get groomed by the right wing online sphere until they were susceptible to buy into shit like that?
also as an aside regarding the politicization of the whole "don't give the shooter attention/say his name/read his writing" argument, note which types of people it applies to
bloodeagleNo, I can certainly guarantee that people in the "mass shooting community" really don't like Ben Shapiro, namely because he is Jewish.
https://twitter.com/nathanTbernard/status/988764063659384833
bloodeagleBen Shapiro is nowhere near "far-right"
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/25712847277?lang=en
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/695622179874967552?lang=en
bloodeaglenamely due to his views on capitalism (and Israel) that are very much at odds with people in these fringe far right communities
people like richard spencer fucking love israel because they see it as a template for what needs to be done in america and europe (ie an ethnostate), and it's a place they can fantasize about sending all american jews to, something which my favorite political cartoonist eli valley has satirized a lot, for example:
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/56171597e4b07d425091e0a3/t/585229fe37c58186144f4947/1481779721237/?format=2500w
as for this notion that the "moderate right" and the alt-right differ greatly on capitalism, I won't go too much into it now but I think it's a distinction without a difference; we are reaching certain points of no return when it comes to climate change, global economic inequality etc., and the choice will ultimately be either building a more equitable society or building more walls and shutting economic and climate refugees out. you can guess which side both the "moderate right" and the alt-right come down on.