Thanks guys I appreciate all the kind words here and from the people who've hit me up on steam/discord etc. Honestly wasn't expecting that, tf2 has a legit community for sure.

Nick, I hope to attend events in the future if my work schedule permits :) RGB is always a good time.

good player/teammate. improved mechanical skills quite a bit after quitting tf2 and focusing on other games (cs/quake)

Paul is part of what kept me interested in tf2, always been a pleasure to play with

good luck bud hope you find a strong squad c u in apex

stock THE CHAMP

I don’t think the notion of dropping badlands/granary and possibly product (due to being the only KotH map in the rotation) for new maps is “extreme”. “extreme” would be completely revamping the map rotation. No one is trying to take out the maps that are best suited for comp play. B4nny/lucrative and co are just looking to improve upon the current map pool. Why leave in maps that are generally disliked and do not play fluidly with the current meta? The game has out grown some of the older maps. It’s time to replace them.

Walrex brings up several good points. Yes, there is a reason process snake and gully are the most heavily played maps. These maps should definitely stay in the rotation. The newer maps may not be on the same tier as the favored maps (although with time and dedication, I think some of them can be), but I’d still rather play them over some of the maps in the rotation. We should be looking to make the map rotation as strong as possible while adding a little bit of diversity to the pool. New maps will force people to think outside the box, try new things, and not mimic things they have seen other players do. This should be exciting but is instead generally frowned upon.

I’d like this entire situation to also pose as a PSA to all comp players/teams to also step up and give the new maps a chance and actually put some time on them before writing them off. I don’t mean to play it once or twice in a pug and be like “dis map sux L not fun” I mean ACTUALLY test it, practice it, and play it with your team in scrims. Play it for a season extensively. My team struggles to get anyone to even practice the new maps (we are strong advocates for the change and would gladly play any new map that is up for consideration). I appreciate the map makers making new maps but it boggles my mind how they have to get put under the microscope and ran through a gauntlet before even seeing true comp play. The gauntlet SHOULD be comp play itself, which is what some of the community is trying to do with the new map tournaments/pugs etc, and I applaud those who put the time and effort into organizing those as well as the dedicated developers trying to make maps for a group of players that are very difficult to please. Keep it up.

Stock is easily one of my favorite teammates/players, and everyone else on this squad are not only good but enjoyable to be around. Great team for people looking to stay competitive and not burn themselves out in the process.

will def miss the HULK SMASH sniper sprees, GL with your RL endeavors bud

change is a well rounded player with good dm on all classes, would be a great backup

Yes q3/qlive (tdm/ra3/ca) is my strong suit but to Luc’s defense I have played cpma (played a few tdm tournaments like 15 yrs ago rofl) and I played reflex fairly extensively for a few months when it first hit beta. I think Luc was just implying that I’m probably better than most people would assume at quake games. I don’t consider myself a cpma/reflex player or the best.

this thread got a bit off track when people started listing "best to do/play other games..." type people

reptile, paladin (belongs more in the underrated players thread), platinum, carnage, seagull were people i'd consider top of their time. pretty generic answer but there’s a reason their names always come up

slice is a dedicated player and good teammate. he will make a good addition to any team. he took criticism like a boss and was very mature about the whole situation with our team. scoop him up

very solid fragger, would be a great pickup for any IM team looking to fill their roster before locks

dance is not only a great teammate but fun to hang/play with, he's dedicated and will make a great addition to any team

i can't even think of anything negative to say about the dude after playing multiple seasons of ESEA together

fatal1ty was very good but it's hard to compare him to newer quake/dm players like rapha/cypher because it's just a completely different era. fatality was taking gaming MUCH more seriously than 99% of the other top players at the time, he was ahead of most players by sheer playtime/practice. After time, people would catch up to his skill ceiling and he'd just move on to a new game. at the time, there were new fps games popping up left and right that were being pushed for tournaments. this allowed fat to be extremely successful. I was around for the rise and fall of fat in q3. He lost twice to socrates at WCG NY and did not qualify for Korea, and then quit and played something else. don't get me wrong, he was an amazing player, but he did have an edge over others solely from his training regiment. He set the norm for how most "pros" prepare today. so i guess that's something in itself worth mentioning.

pretty sure the drinking game I played with ex for making him scrim on his 21st would get anyone hammered cmon bro

underrated scout, capable of playing high-IM

Luc was the main reason I kept playing as long as I have (I should have stopped playing a few seasons ago). He's a great friend and awesome teammate/leader. Very passionate about TF2 and is also fun to hangout with outside of tf2 and just shoot the shit with and play other games. With the right fit, I'm confident that he could play invite.