lol Everything in their power.

Are you going to start paying for peoples fees? There is no "we" with money unless you help contribute.

Not true at all. That cpu will still easily handle those games on one core.

They're not risking losing esea. They don't want to play in esea again ever. Their decision is a for better or for worse scenario and for lot of players they are risking absolutely nothing with the decision to play in Cevo. It may be a worse choice for the most competitive players... That is unfortunately the way it works out. It's a players personal decision where they want to spend their money and if they don't feel it's safe to play esea, who can really blame them? It would be completely different if potentially malicious software was not involved.

You should have much better performance, that cpu is more than capable of running tf2. Intel will net you higher frame rates but it's more just an overbuffer of frames for example like AMD=200 FPS Intel=250+FPS.

It's difficult to troubleshoot this because if the hardware is in good condition and plugged in correctly you should not experience this. With the information you provided it's basically guesswork as to what is actually going on. It could be Software, it could be not enough power or just power options, it could be the settings you have tf2 set to, or a shitty internet connection... Any number of things.

Womb Raiders

What PSU do you have and what are your power settings set at?

You keep saying wait for cevo to prove itself, and that if it goes well stick with it... What I've been trying to tell you that people are just simply not interested in esea even if Cevo doesn't work out. For a lot of low level shitlords, cevo has already proven itself to be the league they want to play in. The meetings, the ongoing discussions the feedback has been going on since November.

It's a shitty situation where you have more casual players who don't care and just want to play some tf2 and high level players who take the game very seriously and don't want to see the revert back to where it was 5-6 years ago.

Kaidus it's a perfectly valid argument. He did not pay to have a anti-cheat client that could potentially do malicious things on his computer. There's little clarity as to what the client could actually do, and deleting the client required more than a standard uninstall. That alone is reason enough to not pay for the same thing again... Lans and higher level play don't matter when it's a personal choice where you want to play. There's plenty of reason not to go with esea. Did the client actually do anything to any tf2 players? Probably not. Has esea done come clean? Sort of I guess, they're also being generous with freemium and it seems like they are making a great effort to win back the community. But if people want to play in cevo because of potential security threats of the esea client... How is that in any way unreasonable? You can't tell someobody they don't value the community prospering when they chose to pay for a community based league. The argument for highlevel play is certainly true, unfortunately it's not reason enough for the average player who is just looking to play some tf2 to play in a league they do not feel safe using.

It's ignorant as to why they are playing in cevo in the first place. A lot of people do not trust esea anymore, which is a perfectly valid reason not to play in esea this season at all. Telling people they can't trust cevo because you played in it and don't like it and have friends who cheated and won. Does not have much weight compared to something that could maliciously be attacking your computer.

Cevo has run big tf2 tournaments that attracted the best competition in the past the big foot killer edge for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8mG47fhRgk Sure esea went bigger with lans ect... but to say they never have or couldn't do it or it's plagued by cheaters.... Isn't really represented by facts and talking about things that happened 10 years ago doesn't help the argument.

Marmaduke, you need to look past your own experience of cevo. Nobody cares what happened 10 years ago in some cs tournament. Nobody cares what your experience with cevo is... it doesn't matter. You can talk about how bad it is all day and it doesn't matter. Telling people to play in esea instead of cevo until YOU think it's good enough isn't going to change anything and you are being completely ignorant as to why they made the switch in the first place. If anything esea has more to prove than cevo does to a player who is undecided on whatever league they wish to play in. I think killing has been doing the right things to help regain trust, but once you lose somebodies trust you have to understand you may never get it again. Cevo does not have to prove to be better than esea for someone to chose to play in it.

People are going to pay for what they want personally for themselves. It has nothing to do with the betterment of game or the community. If people chose to pay for cevo instead of esea it is completely understandable and getting mad about it really doesn't do anything but show how selfish you are. There are reasonable arguments for and against playing in esea so if the community as a majority does not support esea... There's not much you can do about it but bitch about lans ect...

Competition requires commitment. Cevo is not the de facto league for any those games. There's a reason why ESEA left Cevo in the dust a long while back.

Genius!

Are you serious? I hope not. They probably just donate the monitors for the tourney as promotion and that's it. I doubt ESEA even keeps ownership of the equipment...