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#2711 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#2711
Correct, if you wanted Sync it would be cheaper to switch back to an RX 580 and get FreeSync. However it's difficult to get FreeSync and strobing.
Just for strobing the default recommendation is the BenQ Zowie XL2411 (identical to BenQ XL2411Z if you're looking for a used monitor).

#2712
Any games specifically?
When are you going to build it?

posted about 7 years ago
#17 Best $500 budget PC build for TF2? in Hardware
lolmikesStevieKinguin sells windows keys for dirt cheap https://www.kinguin.net/software-deals/Linux runs fine and is completely 100% free in every way shape and form

How can you appreciate free updates though if they don't restart your pc mid match? Otherwise you might not even notice them.

On a more serious note Warframe on Linux is going to be difficult. Just TF2 and Borderlands 2 wouldn't be a problem.

posted about 7 years ago
#13 Best $500 budget PC build for TF2? in Hardware
HuggesSetsulI told you that it's not ideal for TF2.
And it says right there "out of stock".

Not throwing shade but I do have screenshots of you saying that under reduced graphical settings that system is suitable to run most games at 144+ (which I can confirm now that I'm using it). I apologize if I misunderstood though.

TF2 isn't most games.
I would appreciate if you didn't call it "Setsul Certified™!!".
Also I am slightly creeped out by the fact that you're apparently threatening me with screenshots.

Sir_BubblesSetsulNo.Yes.

No. There will be fps drops, because that's how TF2 rolls. And 60 fps really won't feel good in TF2 either way.

Sir_BubblesDon't give a hoot about SSDs, going the start off with a HDD and then later down the road when I have some money laying around I'll maybe cash in on a small SSD to put some games on.

GPU I realized I can run pretty much everything at low-medium settings at 60FPS with a 1050/1050ti equivalent, and I barely play anything other than TF2 or the other two games I listed, so I've got that going for me.

Then it's doable.

Sir_BubblesThe biggest issue I've run into is CPU, as mentioned above it's unclear to me whether TF2 prefers CPU clock speed over core count, and whether to take the theoretical risk getting an AMD processor that is beefier on paper than something like a higher clocked pentium with HT and only 2 cores.

When I tested it (might be outdated by now but no one else ever tested it) it was basically 3 cores (or 2+SMT, which got you abouit 95% of that) and from then on more cores/threads did nothing. So yes, Kaby Lake Pentium with HT.
G4600/4620 or i3-7100 if you can afford to throw a few more dollars at it but it wouldn't make too much of a difference.

So pretty much #3.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($82.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B250M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($56.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Dark 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($87.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba - P300 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.88 @ Other World Computing)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card ($157.99 @ B&H)
Case: Cooler Master - N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($41.00 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $501.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-12 18:34 EST-0500

Main problems with the walmart build are possibly single channel and I'm really not sure if it'll get full turbo clocks (notoriously bad cooling that type of case). So even though you would get a better GPU since you don't need it the only actual difference would be slightly less fps in TF2.

posted about 7 years ago
#8 Best $500 budget PC build for TF2? in Hardware

I told you that it's not ideal for TF2.
And it says right there "out of stock".

posted about 7 years ago
#2707 PC Build Thread in Hardware

You should probably try to test it yourself somehow. I can't decide how much of a difference it would make for you.

posted about 7 years ago
#6 Best $500 budget PC build for TF2? in Hardware
Sir_BubblesTF2 unbreakable fps.

No.

Sir_BubblesBudget is no higher than $500, don't wanna totally throw the GPU out the window

No. You won't get more than a budget CPU and a budget GPU. If you want an SSD you will not get a GPU at all.

Sir_Bubbles(Borderlands 2, Warframe).

Neither of these needs more than a budget GPU though.

posted about 7 years ago
#2705 PC Build Thread in Hardware

The first 144 Hz FreeSync monitors could only do 90-144 or 70-144 Hz, any new monitor will do 48-144 Hz. If you drop below 48 fps you should not be trying to use 144 Hz. But yes, LFC is a thing now.

NeoviperI was looking at the ASUS VG248QE as a potential option, the only real concern I'd have about it is the lack of an adaptive sync feature.

The ASUS VG248QE is older that both G-Sync and FreeSync. Unsurprisingly it supports neither. It is also generally not recommended anymore because it's a tiny bit outdated. Being the oldest 144 Hz monitor that I know of still sold without any upgrades/improvements since the release and all that. And generally being outdated since 2014.

Any other features you want? Strobing/Lightboost/ULMB or anything else?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7600 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock - B250M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($52.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($91.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Toshiba - P300 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.88 @ Other World Computing)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB AMP! Edition Video Card ($279.89 @ B&H)
Case: Cooler Master - N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($35.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($48.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $849.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-10 17:26 EST-0500

Obviously will be a bit over budget with the monitor.
Can't really afford much more of a GPU upgrade and without overclocking I don't see any more expensive CPU that would make sense either.

posted about 7 years ago
#7 Games not smooth after power outage in Hardware
delpoReally hoping it's not a hardware issue, but what exactly would be the best way to determine which part(s) are the culprit(s)? I guess the first thing to try is to swap the PSU out?

Do you even have a spare PSU lying around?
Also PSUs are binary: They either deliver power or they don't. If your pc doesn't turn on or randomly turns off you can blame the PSU. If a game thinks your GPU does not support alpha blending with floating point render targets then that's probably not because you're getting 12.01V instead of 12.05V.

delpoWindows memory diagnostic tool didn't report any errors. Newest GPU drivers have been reinstalled and the issue persists. I also ran Heaven 4.0 and got pretty normal results.

Do you actually trust windows to diagnose errors correctly?

Just leave Heaven running overnight to be sure.
If I had to guess I'd say windows is a bit fucked, maybe SSD a bit scrambled (they really don't like power outages) and now there's software bullshit going on. Of course the other option is that your GPU is fucked, which you can test by swapping it out.

posted about 7 years ago
#10 Titan V in Hardware

#9
Not quite correct, still wouldn't be worth it.
What everyone is forgetting is that
a) the drivers wouldn't support it so it doesn't matter how cheap a 1080 (Ti) or Titan X is if it doesn't work at all and
b) DP performance.

What a) means is that this is not some even faster GPU it's a cut down version of Quadro / P100/V100 type stuff which will cost you 5,000-20,000$ a piece. 3,000$ is absolutely laughable compared to that so the only question is can you tolerate missing a few features and a bit of performance.
What b) means is that since the Titan X, new Titan X and Titan Xp aren't like the original Titan and Titan Black but are basically just a 1090 (Ti) the performance difference isn't a few percent, it's 20x. Is buying a 3000$ GPU that is 20 times faster than a 500$ GPU worth it? Probably.

Don't worry nVidia will probably release another more cut down Titan V for only 2000$ and once enough idiots bought that for gaming they'll release a full GV100 for 2000$ and once enough idiots bought that they'll release another cut down GV100 as 2080 Ti for 900$. Gotta milk it.

posted about 7 years ago
#2703 PC Build Thread in Hardware

Specifically the monitor.
Depends on your fps. G-Sync/FreeSync do nothing when you get more fps than your refresh rate.
Getting less fps makes screen tearing worse. If you get more than your refresh rate you can just cap them, but capping at 30 isn't going to look great.
What would FreeSync's limiatitions be?
DP, DVI or HDMI doesn't really matter. At least one needs to be supported by both monitor and GPU or you'll have problem connecting them. Other than the choice is usually made for you since most 144 Hz monitor only support 144 Hz via DVI (even if they have HDMI port, it would max out at 60 Hz) and G-Sync/FreeSync is usually only available via DP.

For anything other than framerates an SSD is probably the most noticeable upgrade you can get. So I'd recommend adding an SSD before dropping an extra 100$ on a CPU that'll get you an extra 5 fps.
Yes, 250GB + HDD is generally the default choice. 120 is a bit too small to be useful once windows starts taking up a bit more space or when you have more than one large game installed.

Ok, that narrows it down a bit since all oc builds don't make sense in that case.

posted about 7 years ago
#2701 PC Build Thread in Hardware

Major improvements = better GPU and/or overclockable CPU (e.g. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mDDHkT ).
SSD isn't just about boot times. I doubt you're brushing your teeth every time you start a program, open a document, save a document, load a map or do literally anything that touches any data.
Adding an SSD means reinstalling the OS.

Any other features other than 144 Hz that you want?

posted about 7 years ago
#2699 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#2698
Yes, but considering the expected lifespan of a CPU at stock clocks is >10 years that shouldn't be a problem. Also apart from really high voltages that just kill it instantly the main effect is degradation, needing more voltage for the same clockrate. Which of course can be easily fixed by either lowering the overclock once it gets unstable after a few years or by upping the voltage a bit (which will speed the process up marginally).

Mobo and RAM are actually ok-ish (could be better, RAM probably not the best timings, but neither actually bad).
PSU is cheap low end 80+ (not even 80+ Bronze, just 80+). All assuming that steam profile you found is actually that pre-built, but the case doesn't match.
I'd actually argue that they cut corners on the CPU and GPU too. Lowest clocked i5 isn't really what you want for games since you're paying almost the same as for a faster i5, but depending on the game it might actually be slower than a much cheaper i3. And you really don't think the fact that the MSI Armor 4GB is the cheapest RX 580 is a coincidence? Especially with 4GB a higher clocked RX 570 would be more or less the same speed but significantly cheaper. Not so much cutting corners to get the same performance at the cost of lower quality, but to get the impression of higher performance at the lowest cost. RX 580 > RX 570 and i5 > i3 seems obvious, right?

Depending on how much you pay for windows it would cost more or less the same, with more work for you if you build it yourself. So you're definitely not getting ripped off.
The second problem of pre-builts however is do you really want/need those parts? If you want a better mouse and a mechanical keyboard then those included are of essentially no value to you.

Anyway there's multiple options:
1. The pre-built. Would just about do what you want. Maybe add an SSD. Replacing the PSU would add cost so building with the same specs should be cheaper.
2. Building with minor improvements (SSD + maybe different CPU/GPU).
3. Building with major improvements. Do you need a new monitor if you stick with 60Hz for now? Do you need SSD+HDD or can you get away with just an SSD?

Also can you get windows via school/college/university?

#2699
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7600 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($218.77 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - B250M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($52.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($145.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.56 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Titanium Video Card ($459.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master - N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($34.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($48.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1096.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-08 07:40 EST-0500

Get any case you want.
If you insist on getting an aftermarket CPU cooler you can go for an i3-8350K + Z370 mobo. Due to only Z370 supporting it, it'll be slightly more expensive (albeit slightly faster as well) even though the 8350K is cheaper. The main difference is that 8350K doesn't come with a cooler so the end result would be significantly more expensive, but if you're buying one anyway then you might as well take that little bit of extra performance and the option of overclocking. Usually K CPU + Z mobo when you're not overclocking isn't worth it, but in this case if you buy a cooler anyway it's only a 10$ difference with a minor performance improvement, so definitely worth considering if only for the resale value.

posted about 7 years ago
#2695 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#2695
When are you going to build it?
I'm assuming no overclocking since you're inexperienced and worried about cooling?

#2696
Only upgrade if you need more performance. This looks like upgrading for the sake of upgrading.
Also generally rather questionable part choices.
Either way you will be very sad once you realise how few games actually support SLI and that it barely does anything now even in those that do.
And next year when Intel moves up to 8 cores on the desktop socket probably you'll either "have to" upgrade again or you'll be in the same position you are in now.

By the way your GPU seems to be underperforming and the CPU doesn't seem to be overlocked all that high either.

posted about 7 years ago
#2692 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#2961
Answer the questions, #2692 is right.

#2693
For comparision purposes: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DwPWVY
Feel free to guess what CyberpowerPC is actually paying for windows, PSU, RAM and mobo.

Anyway so you could get the same 4 cores / 4 threads and a bit higher clockrate with an i3-8100, which is cheaper, but Intel has only released the Z370, which would make the mobo more expensive compared to e.g. B250.
Of course feel free to doubt their claim that the sockets are physically incompatible, since it's the same pin count, same size, same layout except with some previously unused pins now used for power. Even if you do believe them that somehow they need more pins for power while at the same time they're claiming that the new 6 core SKUs don't need any more power than the old 4 cores SKUs it's obvious that 4 cores now won't magically need more power.
And as it turns out with a bit of fiddling in the BIOS Coffee Lake (8xxx) CPUs do run with 100/200 series chipsets on the "old version" of LGA1151. However that is still in the early stages (and will always be a bit messy) so I'd only consider this an option if you're a) willing to mess with the BIOS and b) not buying it right away.

Some more criticism of the prebuilt:
-Possibly single channel RAM
-Probably old HDD
-Probably shitty mobo
-no SSD

Also they have an exclusive "mixed realty headset", the next step up from virtual reality.

Other than that the usual questions:
When are you going to build it?
Overclocking yes/no?

Neoviper(Btw, thanks for remaining involved in this thread for so long. I feel like I remember lurking years ago and still seeing you here)

That might be due to the fact that I have indeed been doing this for a little over 4 years.

posted about 7 years ago
#75 SUOMI 100 in World Events
nutshinyI have never seen many fin flags in 1 thread

I have never seen that many finns.
I have never seen finns post multiple times per day either.
It is truly a momentous occasion when finns start socializing.

posted about 7 years ago
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