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great post! i've always despised logs for their inability to show overall effectiveness

It's not like there are any other choices if you're looking for a team based shooter with the utmost mechanical skill and strategy. You could move to Quake CPMA for something harder, but that has no team work and TF2 is a flourishing active game by contrast. Any "popular" game you'd like to mention tends to suffer by being simple in order to appease people who don't like to try, thus resulting in becoming precisely that: "popular".

On top of that, how exactly would the game become more enjoyable by having larger price pools and more active players; my and hopefully others enjoyment of the game will and should remain regardless. The question "why do people still play this game" is superfluous and useless as it's palpable: An enjoyable game is preferred over a shitty one with a high price pool.

i mean every class should have a consistent way to finish people off, both roaming soldiers and demo's are lacking in that regard; when is extra weapon slot? I can handle more weapons that solely an RL

Badlands
Gullywash
Gravelpit (hush)
Granary
Snakewater
Process
Product
Reckoner
Sunshine

Despite this, I'd love to see a workable version of this for competitive. I mean, what exactly does designing for pubs really entail? It seems to me that almost anything works in pubs. I've now played two 6v6 games on this and I'd like to offer some quick competitive feedback regardless, you can therefor take this with a grain of salt, or perhaps into consideration.

It's difficult for demos to rollout as there seems to be a lack of 50% hp kits in reasonable places. Perhaps put one in the three shutter door house.
Forward holding from second to mid is quite strange with the two double shutter doors to house, like somebody mentioned, pushing would force a really early uber pop right at the entrance; it'd be really difficult to get a hold of their combo standing on the mid point who would just drop down to their house for safety. This might be solvable by doing something similar to gullywash's big door.

Overall the mid point seems quite one dimensional, lacking any dynamic play, going into the cave should mean that a demo can lock them out from the fight and flanking from under won't work well most likely since it's too compact. A soldier can just sit there and wait for a free frag.

The sniper sightline from window in lobby right before the second point is too strong, you can see all the way to "choke" and "resup" all at the same time. Similarly the sightline is problematic from last (blu right) through the door which goes straight into lobby.

And as mentioned, the jump pads may be quite gimmicky.

I find the last point to be the most intriguing, since you can hold on the top at opposite side of the point. Overall, great work and quite fun and different!

need 5 more!

this map looks absolutely incredible, the structure of the map is quite interesting, differing from the typical badlands/granary structures we see all the time. Interesting flank routes behind the last point, seems easy to do a forward hold in lobby etc

4th for the 4th time :((

Configure->Shortcuts-> untick supress to the far right

I agree! At the same time, I wanted people to properly evaluate each weapon and come to terms with whether they really think something should be allowed; rather than work on assumptions that all items were made in a way that offers interesting, balanced, skillful mechanics and strategies etc

Yes. Very philosophical.

I'd like to see what people actually think. Select the weapons/items you want. Not selecting an item assumes you want to ban it.

Vote here: https://goo.gl/forms/fucYdpZff0PTQeaS2
Results: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeXCa30NAaNwFuTpbIx4PZnzxmeep71hEecppMb63FLfWnPfg/viewanalytics

In response to http://www.teamfortress.tv/38637/philosophical-question-about-whitelists-blacklists

I had to move the pre-loading manually to the custom/cfg autoexec, the valve cfg autoexec isn't executing.

hm, yeah; that seems right. I can't seem to revert the LOD in inspec anymore tho. oh well, guess ill have to live with it.