if you have made even one racist comment in the past, you should be VAC banned
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hamahamDear Admins,
I'm willing to compromise.
You get to lock threads but only once it reaches page 3.
Looking forward to your reply!
With kind regards,
Marcus "hamaham" von Euler
Keep sucking jannies mothafucka...
GETTING IN BEFORE THIS THREAD GETS LOCKED
FUCK JANNIES
you know what? FUCK TF2 TOO. TREYWAY! #FREETF2FROMJANNIES #FREETF2FROMPEDOPHILES
quintoshyeahhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAzSXUCTYSY
following nursey, mechawreck and heavythesquid drama: random, unprofessional people still don't follow any best practises on interviewing victims of child abuse/grooming, and then youtubers are still exposing who the victims are (them saying it's ok doesn't mean it will be ok), (some of) their conversations containing insanely personal information and declaring what types of pictures/videos were taken by whom and which people have them now.
this is actively hurting the victims' mental health and their ability to make the strongest case in a lawsuit that isn't also going to drag on much longer if people hadn't been so content-hungry on youtube/reddit
if some of them thought they were good samaritans by bringing this much detail to the public, especially in this case, they're fucking wrong
let professional people actually prepare proper interviews, probably following a psychological evaluation, instead of not caring about the consequences of these types of information being collected AND shared just for the clicks/upvotes
unfortunately the damage's been done already so reporting the video into oblivion is probably not going to change anything for the victim's sake
Yeah, fair to say that this type of video has serious cons. I'd imagine if reporting this to the authorities had already worked, Jesse would have been taken care of, right? Thing is, nothing has happened and the TF2 community has passively let Jesse, Geel, and others continue to harm others. The Scrap.tf team is also trying to suppress this information since it's the only threat to them right now. Raising awareness is the right thing to do at this point. But I totally agree, the person who found this out/compiled all this should reach out to the victim first/suggest they reach out to authorities. Perhaps if this seemed like the type of thing that would escalate, hold off the video.
ZetosquintoshNot saying you're wrong about the implications, but sometimes being overly analytical about something makes it so shit doesn't get done. All of this backlash was spurt out of the now taken down video. Maybe it was the unprofessional "let's throw all of this out in the wild" approach that set the table for the victims to realize there's a collective. I'm sure there were naysayers and scraptf fanatics defending the offenders, but the internet (believe it or not) can also provide support and encouragement for people to stop being idle about it.
Very true, honestly I don't think people are going to target the victim, and many would offer support to the victim (however they might not want the attention since it's quite sensitive and the they could be seen in a bad light). From a "muh utilitarianism" view, you could argue that more good is coming out of this if Jesse is called out big time.
EDIT: Side note. I should point out that there was a Steam Discussion thread on this matter, and I had posted the WAMO video saying that more information had come out. It was reported (I think), the post was taken down, and the thread was locked. Not sure if mods are in on it, or post was reported for some reason. On top of that, I would hope that the post was reported for worries of what quintosh had mentioned, rather than some Scrap.tf defenders rushing to Geel and Jesse's rescue.
Yeah, awful stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAzSXUCTYSY
And here... we... go...
More evidence for detractors. This is all unique info, different from what KillJester had on his video
I don't think that was #37, it was posted earlier and edited out
Otherwise this just lends more credence to these statements. They're obviously more than "just rumors," to those who are still detractors.
stephunsuprising that tftv would fall for channers trying to smear a brony as a pedo
Why would you immediately chalk it up to "channers?" Odd mindset there...
On top of that, smearing would imply false accusations and slander. Heavy evidence has come out of what is AT BEST very creepy behavior, if not something truly illicit. Any organization should distance itself from this sort of stuff, especially one essentially in charge of one of the biggest virtual economies.
EDIT: Given Geel's history with a shady staff, poor management of saloon.tf, and other similar cover-ups, I don't expect them to do anything about it. It's up to the TF2 community to set things right.
Just saw that video a couple days back, and now... it's down? Sus...
Can confidently say this incident shook me, and that I will be taking my business away from scrap.tf, marketplace.tf, and backpack.tf. Sticking to the Steam Market and trading servers.
I strongly encourage everyone to do the same/move to other alternatives unless Geel and his subordinates come out with a formal apology and disband the site, no damage control or excuses. I don't expect that from the website staff's history and the video, though.
For anyone who wants to respond with "I simply use Scrap.tf, make money off of it, so I don't care," please think twice before making such a morally-devoid statement. Not only is it embarrassing, but if people find out who you are, no one wants to associate with a sick person like you.