You would think, but some people apparently just like counter jumping or whatever.. plus there are some soldier's that when someone jumps up right next to them, they reactivatly shoot the ground right in front of them, or close enough for the splash to propel them upwards which is pretty close to counter jumping, not as blatant and most likely not the intentional, but the results are similar.

Because ammomod like every other -mod is intended to be used to get better; jumping and surfing constantly is a great way to maintain twl div 16 ground game, but it'll let you get those precious ELO points against someone looking to actually get better.

i can practically smell their pussy from here.

the only thing that bothers me in mge anymore are scouts that use null-movement script and mash their movements keys.

Spending your time flying away from your opponent in fairly obvious directions seems like a strange tactic to gain points, but ok.

From my perspective I try to consider the people I am playing against as bots, bots that sometimes play in annoying ways but whatever they're just bots. Helps you to not get too invested in the process and maintain that goal of improving in the macro context.

or you could just shoot them in the head when they jump l0l

I've never encountered any of these experiences.
I must not be mainstream.

How is crouch-jumping explosions so you can spam the ground while they have to pray for airshots not a ploy to gay someone out of the arena? "Don't jump" has been standard ammomod policy since before even I started playing it. If anything I picked it up off tictac/kayp.

i used to congratulate people for not jumping against me in ammomod mge

i added blueberrymuffin on steam because i highly respected his mge playing honour

It seems we have different interpretations of "rocket surfing". The one I envisioned was more akin to that which Medics do, and doesn't offer much in terms of combat advantage as you usually spend your time facing away from your opponent. You shouldn't assume that every time someone does something different that it's an exploitative technique to one-up you in a minigame.

Why is it necessary to rocket surf in ammomod? It's not like you can surf your way up onto a better position. Besides, staying on the ground and dodging rockets is much harder (and better practice) than pressing duck and jump whenever a rocket hits you.

who's "The Jealous God"?

Well exactly, it's not a winning strategy in the context of the arena so I don't see why it would madden your opponent if they do care about MGE points. You are, in a sense, willingly taking damage which seems illogical. But to reference the latter half of your post, the benefit of training rocket surfing, at least to me, is that is that it helps you to form positive outcomes from what on the surface appears to be a negative event.
As you say, it's better to avoid damage entirely, and that is often possible in the context of the 1v1 scenario that MGE places you in. In a full 6v6 game, however, it may not be possible in some circumstance to avoid damage entirely. Being comfortable with rocket surfing gives you the ability to perhaps take some small amount of damage but reposition yourself so that you don't take a potentially much larger amount of damage after dodging that first rocket then staying in the same position.

clockwork ? br0: what a virgin move

I get the feeling you don't quite understand what Ammomod is for.

Maybe so, could you tell me?

blaze, read the tftv rules.

Well, it's a flat circular arena.

Logical conclusion would be that it's for practicing movement and aim, and learning how to analyze the movement and aim of your opponent.

Not mashing duck/jump whenever possible so you can fly up and spam rockets at the ground below you while the other guy either has to hit every airshot or lose.

oh yeah id like to say w strafers are probably the most annoying shit in this universe

if the whole point of ammomod is to not leave the ground why dont you just play endif

Well, I've already explained that isn't what I took the term "rocket surfing" to mean, and can tell you from experience that the one I did mean is not a very viable strategy for winning 1v1s, but again, winning is not something I feel is all that important in a training mode.
I think this disagreement stems from my misunderstanding of what June termed "rocket surfing" which sounds like a behaviour similar to counter-jumping, in his case. Obviously that's quite annoying since it has no applicability outside MGE and isn't something you would reasonably expect to encounter outside of it.

so avoiding damage by moving in a way that gives you a dm advantage isn't practicing movement?

sry for violating the unwritten honourable knight's code of true MGE players by pressing spacebar

Then I don't understand the point of it. If you mean what I think you mean, you're basically playing Ammomod like Endif? What do you do if someone hits you the second you land? Wouldn't you spend the entire game going up and down and never firing at him?

Regardless, different arenas help with different areas of play, so playing them all the same seems silly and unproductive to me. Besides, gl with trying to rocket surf indoors with a low ceiling.

It's in the same vein as counterjumping and shotgun denying. It's easier than the other options, but isn't necessarily the best option outside of MGE. The point of MGE is to get better, so doing something that only makes you better at MGE, or is only helpful in MGE, is pointless. If you just surf damage in Ammomod, you're not learning to predict movement or dodge, you're just making the other guy learn to airshot better.

surfing other peoples rockets can be a valuable skill though

Surfing rockets in any arena besides ammomod(mge) is fine, but surfing in ammomod gives you a pretty big advantage and is usually frowned upon. As well as jumping constantly in ammomod, I'd rather play someone surfing than jumping 24/7 honestly but they're both annoying to play against. It's one of the unwritten rules of MGE, yo.

I'm not going to answer your question about Endif because it's been made clear that my view of MGE deviates from the predefined way you "should" play. But your phrasing is continually giving the impression that you think winning in MGE is important, which seems silly and unproductive to me.

Rocket surfing is the most annoying thing to fight against.

Oh, hey, I just landed a perfect rocket! All the time spent practicing my aim is finally paying off!
Wait, what's this? He just jumped. Now he's raining free damage on me while I'm completely defenseless.
Well, I guess that will teach me never to land all my shots. No point in actually aiming if I just get punished for it.

When I was a noob I would play against moonchild all the time. Even when I was really shitty I could get a decent number of kills on him if I surfed every rocket he fired. It's stupid how easy rocketsurfing makes MGE. Eventually I learned that surfing rockets is akin to bending over and hanging a sign around your ass that says "Insert various objects here. Penises preferred".

Also, this debate already happened on SPUF.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3159805

surfing (well) gives you a pretty big advantage in every arena (it works for the same reason counter jumping does - the difference to me being that counter jumping is much less useful in a real game)

I don't play ammomod so it doesn't really matter but I don't see what the big deal is. You can get better at your airshots or just shoot them in the head when they jump so they take fall damage

yes, viable tactic that you can use in real games to conserve ammo and take less damage is the same thing as liking dicks in your ass. your logic is impeccable with that one