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Heya, so i decided to play with Hammer (to learn more about it) and i said to myself, why not improve (fix bugs, add few things) cp_steel map? So here you go, changelog:
BLU Spawn:
-Can stand on BLU Spawn Barricade http://i.imgur.com/cZ255gS.jpg
-Can't shoot into BLU Spawn anymore, as seen in here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CtiPcJ2374
-Changed Respawn position in spawn on B point capture http://i.imgur.com/PCF7ySi.png
RED Spawn:
-On C cap, spawns are a bit more forward http://i.imgur.com/XlswoLI.png
A point:
-Gave playerclip to a Small pipe on a Building
-Flames don’t go through Gates on A until you capped it
B Point:
-Made a small ledge on A-B Dropdown, so that Scout with winger+atomizer can get up there http://i.imgur.com/YFMarZD.jpg
-Fixed being able to stand so high above the lamp http://i.imgur.com/uHYAyV2.jpg
-Increased door opening speed (a bit) on B cap http://i.imgur.com/oExmBym.jpg
-Can no longer put stickies inside of a Barrel http://i.imgur.com/BmoRvaK.jpg
-Cant stand on small Light above BLU Spawn-B corridor anymore http://i.imgur.com/j2VzB2v.jpg
-Small wall collision fix
C Point:
-Damage doesn't go through grate anymore (finally) http://i.imgur.com/rs7VZKl.jpg
-Increased the area of the cap point a bit http://i.imgur.com/8hDltfX.png
-Increased Skybox a bit
D Point:
-1 Little graphical fix
-Can't stand on Fence anymore
-Projectiles don’t go through a small gap on D http://i.imgur.com/smY4xyO.jpg
A-E Connector:
-Removed Player clip in 1 area (now you can put mini sentry there and stand closer to wall) http://i.imgur.com/MrV5EUQ.jpg
E Point:
-Can no long shoot through stairs area (could shoot from those stairs to Ammo pack near spawn) http://i.imgur.com/C0p9WGV.jpg
-Cant stand on top of a door near Windows
Other:
-Fixed 3 Areportals (possible optimization/more fps?)
-Replaced some nodraw textures
Download: Link
If anything i added/changed was not needed or if you want to suggest anything, please tell me.
If this gets popular or anything, i can make a pro version of some other maps, right now im just experimenting with Hammer (learning), i just hope i didn't break anything on this map :o
From ETF2L [url=http://etf2l.org/forum/maps/topic-28606/]forums[/url]
Heya, so i decided to play with Hammer (to learn more about it) and i said to myself, why not improve (fix bugs, add few things) cp_steel map? So here you go, changelog:
[b]BLU Spawn:[/b]
-Can stand on BLU Spawn Barricade http://i.imgur.com/cZ255gS.jpg
-Can't shoot into BLU Spawn anymore, as seen in here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CtiPcJ2374
-Changed Respawn position in spawn on B point capture http://i.imgur.com/PCF7ySi.png
[b]RED Spawn:[/b]
-On C cap, spawns are a bit more forward http://i.imgur.com/XlswoLI.png
[b]A point:[/b]
-Gave playerclip to a Small pipe on a Building
-Flames don’t go through Gates on A until you capped it
[b]B Point:[/b]
-Made a small ledge on A-B Dropdown, so that Scout with winger+atomizer can get up there http://i.imgur.com/YFMarZD.jpg
-Fixed being able to stand so high above the lamp http://i.imgur.com/uHYAyV2.jpg
-Increased door opening speed (a bit) on B cap http://i.imgur.com/oExmBym.jpg
-Can no longer put stickies inside of a Barrel http://i.imgur.com/BmoRvaK.jpg
-Cant stand on small Light above BLU Spawn-B corridor anymore http://i.imgur.com/j2VzB2v.jpg
-Small wall collision fix
[b]C Point:[/b]
-Damage doesn't go through grate anymore (finally) http://i.imgur.com/rs7VZKl.jpg
-Increased the area of the cap point a bit http://i.imgur.com/8hDltfX.png
-Increased Skybox a bit
[b]D Point:[/b]
-1 Little graphical fix
-Can't stand on Fence anymore
-Projectiles don’t go through a small gap on D http://i.imgur.com/smY4xyO.jpg
[b]A-E Connector:[/b]
-Removed Player clip in 1 area (now you can put mini sentry there and stand closer to wall) http://i.imgur.com/MrV5EUQ.jpg
[b]E Point:[/b]
-Can no long shoot through stairs area (could shoot from those stairs to Ammo pack near spawn) http://i.imgur.com/C0p9WGV.jpg
-Cant stand on top of a door near Windows
[b]Other:[/b]
-Fixed 3 Areportals (possible optimization/more fps?)
-Replaced some nodraw textures
[b]Download: [url=http://download1595.mediafire.com/zsd7bbynylgg/9yxtaufgv5ws1n9/cp_steel_pro2.rar]Link[/url] [/b]
If anything i added/changed was not needed or if you want to suggest anything, please tell me.
If this gets popular or anything, i can make a pro version of some other maps, right now im just experimenting with Hammer (learning), i just hope i didn't break anything on this map :o
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EDIT: Credit to synchro
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I think a lot of the fixes are great. But not all. I have one small gripe.
I think that even in competitive HL, grates should be able to have stickies explode through them. Look at maps like Gully and Swiftwater. Nobody is clamoring for the grates to block damage on those maps. I've even covered matches where a big explosion through a grate caused a med drop. Nobody complains to the map maker - it's just how grates work.
Other than that, I applaud efforts to fix exploits though.
I think a lot of the fixes are great. But not all. I have one small gripe.
I think that even in competitive HL, grates should be able to have stickies explode through them. Look at maps like Gully and Swiftwater. Nobody is clamoring for the grates to block damage on those maps. I've even covered matches where a big explosion through a grate caused a med drop. Nobody complains to the map maker - it's just how grates work.
Other than that, I applaud efforts to fix exploits though.
Is the door that used to have flames go through it a problem anymore? Haven't payed attention to this map's changes.
> Damage doesn't go through grate anymore (finally) http://i.imgur.com/rs7VZKl.jpg
Can't you just replace it with glass, then? Almost all the grate textures in the game are supposed to have splash go through them, and it's real unintuitive that it won't anymore. It you just make it glass, it'll make it obvious that it's not supposed to be. Be careful, though; some of the glass textures are set to have low friction, so you might have to pick around or encase it in blockbullets.
It's just how grates work.
> Removed Player clip in 1 area (now you can put mini sentry there and stand closer to wall) http://i.imgur.com/MrV5EUQ.jpg
That seems like a really bad idea.
Aside from that, props on the good changes! I hope that being less buggy will make the map's few flaws more obvious, and easy to fix.
Is the door that used to have flames go through it a problem anymore? Haven't payed attention to this map's changes.
> Damage doesn't go through grate anymore (finally) http://i.imgur.com/rs7VZKl.jpg
Can't you just replace it with glass, then? Almost all the grate textures in the game are supposed to have splash go through them, and it's real unintuitive that it won't anymore. It you just make it glass, it'll make it obvious that it's not supposed to be. Be careful, though; some of the glass textures are set to have low friction, so you might have to pick around or encase it in blockbullets.
It's just how grates work.
> Removed Player clip in 1 area (now you can put mini sentry there and stand closer to wall) http://i.imgur.com/MrV5EUQ.jpg
That seems like a really bad idea.
Aside from that, props on the good changes! I hope that being less buggy will make the map's few flaws more obvious, and easy to fix.
GetawhaleI think a lot of the fixes are great. But not all. I have one small gripe.
I think that even in competitive HL, grates should be able to have stickies explode through them. Look at maps like Gully and Swiftwater. Nobody is clamoring for the grates to block damage on those maps. I've even covered matches where a big explosion through a grate caused a med drop. Nobody complains to the map maker - it's just how grates work.
Other than that, I applaud efforts to fix exploits though.
Actually snakewater used to have grates on 2nd until people complained to the map maker to change it
[quote=Getawhale]I think a lot of the fixes are great. But not all. I have one small gripe.
I think that even in competitive HL, grates should be able to have stickies explode through them. Look at maps like Gully and Swiftwater. Nobody is clamoring for the grates to block damage on those maps. I've even covered matches where a big explosion through a grate caused a med drop. Nobody complains to the map maker - it's just how grates work.
Other than that, I applaud efforts to fix exploits though.[/quote]
Actually snakewater used to have grates on 2nd until people complained to the map maker to change it
Well I still agree and echo what wareya said above.
Also curious about flames through the A-E door.
Well I still agree and echo what wareya said above.
Also curious about flames through the A-E door.
If you want to suggest any fixes/additions to a map, feel free to do it, but i still think that Damage through grate thingie is a serious problem sometimes, i've seen players getting killed by the demo who was standing below there and believe me it's very hard to counter him if he's standing there. But anyways, i made some more fixes and removed few things
A point:
-Flames don't go through A gates anymore, they do after you cap the point
-Removed Health kit near Windows
-Gave playerclip to a Small pipe on a Building
B Point:
-Reverted Ammo pack change
D Point:
-Projectiles don't go through a small gap on D http://i.imgur.com/smY4xyO.jpg
E Point:
-Removed Health kit near Spawn door
-Cant stand on top of a door near Windows
Download: Link
If you want to suggest any fixes/additions to a map, feel free to do it, but i still think that Damage through grate thingie is a serious problem sometimes, i've seen players getting killed by the demo who was standing below there and believe me it's very hard to counter him if he's standing there. But anyways, i made some more fixes and removed few things
[b]A point:[/b]
-Flames don't go through A gates anymore, they do after you cap the point
-Removed Health kit near Windows
-Gave playerclip to a Small pipe on a Building
[b]B Point:[/b]
-Reverted Ammo pack change
[b]D Point:[/b]
-Projectiles don't go through a small gap on D http://i.imgur.com/smY4xyO.jpg
[b]E Point:[/b]
-Removed Health kit near Spawn door
-Cant stand on top of a door near Windows
Download: [url=http://download1595.mediafire.com/zsd7bbynylgg/9yxtaufgv5ws1n9/cp_steel_pro2.rar]Link[/url]
You should post this on the UGC forums, since they are playing cp_steel again this season, and a fixed cp_steel is better than a regular cp_steel.
You should post this on the UGC forums, since they are playing cp_steel again this season, and a fixed cp_steel is better than a regular cp_steel.