http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/world/asia/drone-strikes-reveal-uncomfortable-truth-us-is-often-unsure-about-who-will-die.html

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/12/09/americans-views-on-use-of-torture-in-fighting-terrorism-have-been-mixed/

We're totes better guys don't worry.

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i'm pretty sure there were only 3 shootings committed by muslims out of the ~355 or whatever this year

chattanooga, san bernardino, and another one (the tulsa one?)

When Jews and Christians start to shoot up random public targets because their choice of religion "radicalized" them, then we can entertain the though of sending them home as well.

didn't he say something like "muslims should wear a tag" or something?

Oh yeah, you mean like the yellow badge they gave the jews?

What the actual fuckign is going on in this thread? NONE of you to my knowledge are foreign diplomats or have real world experience dealing with foreign affairs or ethnic issues. With that said you can have an opinion but for fucks sake don't act as if its correct in any way shape or form and just stop please? To answer the original question of is trump for real? Look at the past 2 pages of this thread should be all you need to see that shits fucked in the states....

Wisconsin Sikh Temple massacre, Aug. 5, 2012

The murder of Dr. George Tiller, May 31, 2009

Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church shooting, July 27, 2008

The murder of Dr. John Britton, July 29, 1994

The Centennial Olympic Park bombing, July 27, 1996

The murder of Barnett Slepian byJames Charles Kopp, Oct. 23, 1998

Planned Parenthood bombing, Brookline, Massachusetts, 1994

Planned Parenthood Mass Shooting, Colorado Springs, Colorado, Nov 27, 2015

All attacks by religiously motivated extremist Christians, including mass shootings and bombings based off religious beliefs.

Along with a host of other Christianity motivated murders that don't necessarily fit the "shooting up places" category.

I mean you're free to believe it doesn't happen but it does, a lot.

A) have u not been reading the news about the planned parenthood shootings

B) why is ur solution to every threat "make the foreigners leave america"

don't forget about umpqua

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also banning Muslims isn't even legal under the first amendment so trump would have to amend the constitution (!!!!) with an amendment that overturns the first amendment (!!!!!!!!!!) trump obviously doesn't even understand the country whose presidency he's trying to attain. He's a moron move on thread done

vote for stoper for prez

Actually Timothy McVeigh wasn't a Christian extremist.

He did it as a form of protest for US governmental actions in the Middle East and domestically. He in fact stated later that he was agnostic and that "science is his religion", though he was raised Catholic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh#Motivations_for_the_bombing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh#Religious_beliefs

I hate using stuff from news papers but I cant find anything else atm http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-news/20151205-mass-shootings-in-the-u.s.-this-year-353--or-4-depending-on-your-definition.ece

so depending on your definition muslims committed 1/4 mass shootings

I don't think anyone is saying domestic terrorism is not a problem. Clearly it has been an issue and will continue to be an issue. Looking at the whole picture, fanatical Islam is a global issue and in my mind has much more far reaching and potentially harmful effects than single shootings here and there. The actual numbers of fanatical Islamic people incredibly outnumber the single lone gunmen sitting around America looking to stage a domestic attack. To open the front door to all these immigrants is a mistake.

I'm pretty sure mercers beliefs were never confirmed

I could be wrong but im pretty sure he can https://i.imgur.com/JxB4xTZ.jpg
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182#

anyone else remember the last time immigrants caused genocide in america? if so,

These are all Old Testament references and many of the teachings and laws in the OT are outdated and no longer apply (e.g. slaughtering of goats to forgive your sins). And they are directed at specific people/people groups. These are not generalized statements to kill non-believers like what we see in the Quran.

I looked up one of them:

Deuteronomy 13:7-12 (This is under the law of Moses and people were not permitted to worship any other gods.) After trial, the penalty for worshiping other gods was stoning. And the first person to throw the stone was the person that caught the law breaker.

http://biblehub.com/commentaries/deuteronomy/13-9.htm

The slave trade from Africo to the middle east has always been bigger with all male slaves castrated as well, and slavery in saudi arabia was legal until....1962 and it still is going on, but now they are indentured servants from south east asia. But yea, noone can oppress anyone else unless it's christians right.

btw, the Portuguese, who made the first contacts, in India, they could easily set up shop, becuase there was such an abundant slave market under the mughals. go ahead and think of the hundreds of thousands hindus and millions east africans being used as slaves and all this would still go on, if not certain British and french became vehemently oppossed against slavery, and as main reason" I cant accept this to happen as a good Christian" but go on, keep thinking you're saving the world while being totally historically ignorant.

Like, do you have any clue on how much poeple died in the balkans, to Ottoman armies, like every campaign, 20 k civs here 50k there, and that over the span of centuries while the remainder was being taken as slaves, terrified for centuries, on land, on the sea, the dark ages kicked off becuase meditterrean trade got destroyed by muslim pirates,.. you know actually, why do I even bother telling you all this. These facts mean nothing to you, becuase Serbia is a meme right guys haha, remove kebab XD, while us NATO bombed civilians, and intervened in something we really shouldn't have but the USA needed a distraction becuase the Lewinsky affair. Oops little scandal, lets just bomb a country and show the ngiht vision wreckage from a distance to distract our media.

Thinking terrorists represent Muslim cultural or moral positions would be like thinking the Westboro Baptist Church represents Christians.

Are you serious? Are you genuinely saying that Terrorism by Christians is happening a lot when compared to Islamist Radicals?

Forgive me for posting a long list:

These are all the Islamic Radical Terrorist attacks that have happened in ONLY the first 4 months of 2015. Amazing that this list of just 4 months is many times longer than your Christian terrorist list for the past decade.

Except for the fact that radical Muslims are estimated to represent 10-15% of all Muslims worldwide. Which would equal hundreds of millions of radical Muslims vs 100's of Westboro Baptist attendees.

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Constitution is the supreme law of the land, if trump tried to use this to justify it someone could definitely bring it before a district court in a suit and elevate it to the supreme Court who would most likely rule it unconstitutional under the first amendment and strike down that section of the law

cite your sources fam

325000/1600000000 =\= .15

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Security-Watch/terrorism-security/2015/0113/How-many-Muslim-extremists-are-there-Just-the-facts-please

in fact going by this estimate means less than .0002 percent of Muslims are prone to becoming extremists
the memberships to these orgs are so low in comparison it barely changes the number

let's just throw out some estimation and say every Islamic terrorist group has the same number of members as al qaeda: 28000ish (high estimate)

* the 28 Islamic terror groups on the US state depts foreign terror groups list = 784000 plus our original number = 1109000

divide that by 1.6 billion and we get the staggering total of

0.000693125%

and that's a high estimate

thanks high school algebra

Cherrypicking, you mean like what you are doing with those verses?

https://www.gci.org/law/otlaws

TLDR Summary: The New Testament gives two basic answers to this question: Yes, and no. Some verses indicate continuity, and others indicate change.

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four of your examples come from the 90s probably before you were born, this just shows how hard you are grasping to equate with a list of within four months. How much intellectual integrity do you have in you, while you were doing that effort and digging, just to make it remotely equal, at the surface, and if you would dig deeper and deeper and go back in time, you would only feel the discrepancy increase. How Incredibly racist of you to be so dishonest and defending poeple who killed hundreds of thousands indians, africans, russians and europeans, just so you could feel better of defending something exotic to you that you don't understand.

Bet you liked Ghenghis khan for making the silk route safe from robbers for a few years. .

Wow Avast. There are MANY groups/religions that don't like abortion, you are putting labels on these people. In the cases you posed, there was NO MENTION of Christianity or VERY LITTLE at best for many of them. Just about every answer you just gave was your own label and opinion hence "I WONDER ONCE AGAIN WHO DISLIKES THOSE GROUPS IN THE USA HMMM"

You can't just say that because someone is "anti-abortion" they are one religion or another. Just for the sake of argument, lets say you are right and I am wrong. It still doesn't change that fact that the sheer number of radical islamic militants is exponentially higher than anything we may have going in the domestic US. That is why you need to take into account a threat factor when you talk about board terms like this. Radical Islam is WAY higher on the threat meter than any domestic terrorists we have right now. How can that even be debated?

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