Not sure if this is the right place to put this (hopefully I will be able to change category after) but as a medic main for a few years now and a player ever since orange box was released. I was thinking about getting into this but my pal, Pal gave me that extra push to try it out for myself.
I already know that I need to learn more about the game AND my class, once done with that, I can go do some lobbies such as tf2c. Im here just asking for pointers, what specifically to watch/read and good rule of thumbs. If it does help, I do have some recorded vods of me playing medic on my twitch and my youtube channel. (twitch being regular pubs and I have one video from the Competitive Matchmaking beta)
ANY sources of information regarding either the game itself or my class will be very appreciated! Critiques related to whenever I go into valve pub servers or the MM beta would be helpful even though i'm not completely confident that they will be of much use.
Also, after watching some things from slin, I was wondering what surf servers (non pvp) are good and ones to stay away from.
And im not completely sure if im aloud to post links BUT to find both my twitch and youtube accounts are in the bio of my steam profile.
Thank you to everyone who reads, let alone helps me out!
Not sure if this is the right place to put this (hopefully I will be able to change category after) but as a medic main for a few years now and a player ever since orange box was released. I was thinking about getting into this but my pal, Pal gave me that extra push to try it out for myself.
I already know that I need to learn more about the game AND my class, once done with that, I can go do some lobbies such as tf2c. Im here just asking for pointers, what specifically to watch/read and good rule of thumbs. If it does help, I do have some recorded vods of me playing medic on my twitch and my youtube channel. (twitch being regular pubs and I have one video from the Competitive Matchmaking beta)
ANY sources of information regarding either the game itself or my class will be very appreciated! Critiques related to whenever I go into valve pub servers or the MM beta would be helpful even though i'm not completely confident that they will be of much use.
Also, after watching some things from slin, I was wondering what surf servers (non pvp) are good and ones to stay away from.
And im not completely sure if im aloud to post links BUT to find both my twitch and youtube accounts are in the bio of my steam profile.
Thank you to everyone who reads, let alone helps me out!
join this group http://steamcommunity.com/groups/na6v6newbiemix
They host newbie mixes where each team gets coached, go there if you want to learn, every friday night starting at about 9:30pm EST, mumble is on their page, good luck
join this group http://steamcommunity.com/groups/na6v6newbiemix
They host newbie mixes where each team gets coached, go there if you want to learn, every friday night starting at about 9:30pm EST, mumble is on their page, good luck
http://www.teamfortress.tv/servers/?region=in If you go to the "surf" tab near the bottom there are plenty of skill surf servers. ReSurfed are the most populated and the biggest in TF2
if you are not familiar with newbie mixes, you can find them here. Every friday they host pickup games where new players can learn from coaches.
http://www.teamfortress.tv/servers/?region=in If you go to the "surf" tab near the bottom there are plenty of skill surf servers. ReSurfed are the most populated and the biggest in TF2
if you are not familiar with newbie mixes, you can find them [url=https://steamcommunity.com/groups/na6v6newbiemix]here[/url]. Every friday they host pickup games where new players can learn from coaches.
frenzyxjoin this group http://steamcommunity.com/groups/na6v6newbiemix
They host newbie mixes where each team gets coached, go there if you want to learn, every friday night starting at about 9:30pm EST, mumble is on their page, good luck
Also, this group starts up a Newbie Team Drive before each ESEA season. They'll set you up with experiences coaches and a roster of similar, new players. Great way to improve.
Also MixChamp is good for just practicing in your free time, for a new player.
[quote=frenzyx]join this group http://steamcommunity.com/groups/na6v6newbiemix
They host newbie mixes where each team gets coached, go there if you want to learn, every friday night starting at about 9:30pm EST, mumble is on their page, good luck[/quote]
Also, this group starts up a Newbie Team Drive before each ESEA season. They'll set you up with experiences coaches and a roster of similar, new players. Great way to improve.
Also [url=https://na.mix.champ.gg/]MixChamp[/url] is good for just practicing in your free time, for a new player.
Erraticfrenzyxjoin this group http://steamcommunity.com/groups/na6v6newbiemix
They host newbie mixes where each team gets coached, go there if you want to learn, every friday night starting at about 9:30pm EST, mumble is on their page, good luck
Also, this group starts up a Newbie Team Drive before each ESEA season. They'll set you up with experiences coaches and a roster of similar, new players. Great way to improve.
Also MixChamp is good for just practicing in your free time, for a new player.
Ive never heard of MixChamp. what makes it different than tf2c?
[quote=Erratic][quote=frenzyx]join this group http://steamcommunity.com/groups/na6v6newbiemix
They host newbie mixes where each team gets coached, go there if you want to learn, every friday night starting at about 9:30pm EST, mumble is on their page, good luck[/quote]
Also, this group starts up a Newbie Team Drive before each ESEA season. They'll set you up with experiences coaches and a roster of similar, new players. Great way to improve.
Also [url=https://na.mix.champ.gg/]MixChamp[/url] is good for just practicing in your free time, for a new player.[/quote]
Ive never heard of MixChamp. what makes it different than tf2c?
ZenthlocErraticfrenzyxjoin this group http://steamcommunity.com/groups/na6v6newbiemix
They host newbie mixes where each team gets coached, go there if you want to learn, every friday night starting at about 9:30pm EST, mumble is on their page, good luck
Also, this group starts up a Newbie Team Drive before each ESEA season. They'll set you up with experiences coaches and a roster of similar, new players. Great way to improve.
Also MixChamp is good for just practicing in your free time, for a new player.
Ive never heard of MixChamp. what makes it different than tf2c?
A bit more "balanced" because of hidden elo.
Maybe slightly less autistic.
[quote=Zenthloc][quote=Erratic][quote=frenzyx]join this group http://steamcommunity.com/groups/na6v6newbiemix
They host newbie mixes where each team gets coached, go there if you want to learn, every friday night starting at about 9:30pm EST, mumble is on their page, good luck[/quote]
Also, this group starts up a Newbie Team Drive before each ESEA season. They'll set you up with experiences coaches and a roster of similar, new players. Great way to improve.
Also [url=https://na.mix.champ.gg/]MixChamp[/url] is good for just practicing in your free time, for a new player.[/quote]
Ive never heard of MixChamp. what makes it different than tf2c?[/quote]
A bit more "balanced" because of hidden elo.
Maybe slightly less autistic.
It might be a bit of a bore, but watching demos of professional players such as phorofor, nursey, etc. will definitely help you improve positioning and timing, just by emulating what they do. Also, tf2c is good for beginners, but once you get a bit better definitely try to play mixchamp, some in house pugs, and maybe even join a team. But most importantly, just do whats fun for you. Good luck! :D
It might be a bit of a bore, but watching demos of professional players such as phorofor, nursey, etc. will definitely help you improve positioning and timing, just by emulating what they do. Also, tf2c is good for beginners, but once you get a bit better definitely try to play mixchamp, some in house pugs, and maybe even join a team. But most importantly, just do whats fun for you. Good luck! :D
BlitheIt might be a bit of a bore, but watching demos of professional players such as phorofor, nursey, etc. will definitely help you improve positioning and timing, just by emulating what they do. Also, tf2c is good for beginners, but once you get a bit better definitely try to play mixchamp, some in house pugs, and maybe even join a team. But most importantly, just do whats fun for you. Good luck! :D
This but watch Shade, Knoxxx, Mirelin, and Pyyyour as well.
[quote=Blithe]It might be a bit of a bore, but watching demos of professional players such as phorofor, nursey, etc. will definitely help you improve positioning and timing, just by emulating what they do. Also, tf2c is good for beginners, but once you get a bit better definitely try to play mixchamp, some in house pugs, and maybe even join a team. But most importantly, just do whats fun for you. Good luck! :D[/quote]
This but watch Shade, Knoxxx, Mirelin, and Pyyyour as well.
Also, we're kind of trying to get people to jump ship from tf2c to tf2stadium for a multitude of reasons, including a required removal of AdBlock to access the site.
There's many more reasons but basically mixchamp, tf2stadium, newbie mixes, and pug groups are your best bet at improving your medic skills. Also working on your mechanics through jump and surf maps are great for passing the time in between queuing up for lobbies.
Also, we're kind of trying to get people to jump ship from tf2c to tf2stadium for a multitude of reasons, including a required removal of AdBlock to access the site.
There's many more reasons but basically mixchamp, tf2stadium, newbie mixes, and pug groups are your best bet at improving your medic skills. Also working on your mechanics through jump and surf maps are great for passing the time in between queuing up for lobbies.
KonceptAlso, we're kind of trying to get people to jump ship from tf2c to tf2stadium for a multitude of reasons, including a required removal of AdBlock to access the site.
There's many more reasons but basically mixchamp, tf2stadium, newbie mixes, and pug groups are your best bet at improving your medic skills. Also working on your mechanics through jump and surf maps are great for passing the time in between queuing up for lobbies.
Yeah, ive heard of that one. Ill make sure to check it out
[quote=Koncept]Also, we're kind of trying to get people to jump ship from tf2c to tf2stadium for a multitude of reasons, including a required removal of AdBlock to access the site.
There's many more reasons but basically mixchamp, tf2stadium, newbie mixes, and pug groups are your best bet at improving your medic skills. Also working on your mechanics through jump and surf maps are great for passing the time in between queuing up for lobbies.[/quote]
Yeah, ive heard of that one. Ill make sure to check it out
Hunter_2_0ZenthlocErraticfrenzyxjoin this group http://steamcommunity.com/groups/na6v6newbiemix
They host newbie mixes where each team gets coached, go there if you want to learn, every friday night starting at about 9:30pm EST, mumble is on their page, good luck
Also, this group starts up a Newbie Team Drive before each ESEA season. They'll set you up with experiences coaches and a roster of similar, new players. Great way to improve.
Also MixChamp is good for just practicing in your free time, for a new player.
Ive never heard of MixChamp. what makes it different than tf2c?
A bit more "balanced" because of hidden elo.
Maybe slightly less autistic.
Actual admins who care instead of children have internal drama and terrible rules. Players who want to play the game, instead of just messing around. Typical things you'd want to have as a new player, to help you develop.
Edit: TF2Stadium is a good site too. Good alternative to TF2C, because, like Mixchamp, it is run by a good team.
[quote=Hunter_2_0][quote=Zenthloc][quote=Erratic][quote=frenzyx]join this group http://steamcommunity.com/groups/na6v6newbiemix
They host newbie mixes where each team gets coached, go there if you want to learn, every friday night starting at about 9:30pm EST, mumble is on their page, good luck[/quote]
Also, this group starts up a Newbie Team Drive before each ESEA season. They'll set you up with experiences coaches and a roster of similar, new players. Great way to improve.
Also [url=https://na.mix.champ.gg/]MixChamp[/url] is good for just practicing in your free time, for a new player.[/quote]
Ive never heard of MixChamp. what makes it different than tf2c?[/quote]
A bit more "balanced" because of hidden elo.
Maybe slightly less autistic.[/quote]
Actual admins who care instead of children have internal drama and terrible rules. Players who want to play the game, instead of just messing around. Typical things you'd want to have as a new player, to help you develop.
Edit: [url=https://www.tf2stadium.com/]TF2Stadium[/url] is a good site too. Good alternative to TF2C, because, like Mixchamp, it is run by a good team.
I know it's been mentioned multiple times already, but I cannot emphasize enough how fantastic NA 6v6 newbie mixes are. Supportive, fun, relaxed but not a joke. It's by far the best place to get into 6s.
Have fun :)
I know it's been mentioned multiple times already, but I cannot emphasize enough how fantastic NA 6v6 newbie mixes are. Supportive, fun, relaxed but not a joke. It's by far the best place to get into 6s.
Have fun :)
As much as some people hate me for saying this, Highlander and 6s go hand-in-hand when it comes to improving your game as a Medic; meaning you will learn important skills for both formats by playing each other.
I played Highlander almost exclusively for almost two years before playing 6s more (Mind you, that was because I couldn't commit to playing for more than one team then). Playing in HL gets you used to dealing with bullshit (Facestabs, constant Pyro), and overall always being aware of your surroundings (There could be a Spy behind you, and a Sniper around the corner). The lack of awareness I see in Medics who don't have experience playing HL Medic can be frustrating.
At the same time, in 6s you will learn to surf (Not that you wouldn't in HL, but there are fewer opportunities), improve your movement, and deal with people who will kill you with skill/DM, not the mechanics of the class. In turn, this will improve your ability to survive, especially in Highlander, because you will be able to escape situations by surfing away, and evade the shots of your opponents. Movement and surfing were skills that, had I mastered playing 6s much earlier, would have allowed me to improve much faster overall.
TL:DR play Highlander and 6s, and don't listen to people who say 6s is harder without elaborating. 6s and HL both present unique and difficult challenges for Medics that other classes don't have.
As much as some people hate me for saying this, Highlander and 6s go hand-in-hand when it comes to improving your game as a Medic; meaning you will learn important skills for both formats by playing each other.
I played Highlander almost exclusively for almost two years before playing 6s more (Mind you, that was because I couldn't commit to playing for more than one team then). Playing in HL gets you used to dealing with bullshit (Facestabs, constant Pyro), and overall always being aware of your surroundings (There could be a Spy behind you, and a Sniper around the corner). The lack of awareness I see in Medics who don't have experience playing HL Medic can be frustrating.
At the same time, in 6s you will learn to surf (Not that you wouldn't in HL, but there are fewer opportunities), improve your movement, and deal with people who will kill you with skill/DM, not the mechanics of the class. In turn, this will improve your ability to survive, especially in Highlander, because you will be able to escape situations by surfing away, and evade the shots of your opponents. Movement and surfing were skills that, had I mastered playing 6s much earlier, would have allowed me to improve much faster overall.
TL:DR play Highlander and 6s, and don't listen to people who say 6s is harder without elaborating. 6s and HL both present unique and difficult challenges for Medics that other classes don't have.
definitely pugging with some more experienced players helped me improve a lot, also the one thing that helped me improve when i was still playing was definitely just playing on an actual team that was willing to improve and scrim and work on their gameplay individually and as a team. mindset wise when you get into competitive, definitely keep your head up while you keep playing, youre not gonna do well every game or every pug but you're improving and learning the process.
definitely pugging with some more experienced players helped me improve a lot, also the one thing that helped me improve when i was still playing was definitely just playing on an actual team that was willing to improve and scrim and work on their gameplay individually and as a team. mindset wise when you get into competitive, definitely keep your head up while you keep playing, youre not gonna do well every game or every pug but you're improving and learning the process.
Shades medic povs from this season (he is top 3 medic in world): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFSqKfUAUZk&list=PL4umVTmh9X5s2ek977dfoYDNdDivnwdaP
Nursey's old POVs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17BxF_8dNmw&list=PL-OLPMPP4oZe8aqMuYzOUOHaK2pjMM6aN
Also beater put up a thread that allows you to download and watch STVs from almost every ESEA-Invite and ETF2L Prem seasons from the past: http://www.teamfortress.tv/20985/request-demos
^^^ you can download and watch the old medics even if they dont play tf2 anymore, you can easily catch on the things they do, pay attention to their positioning and the amount of distance they put between themselves and their heal targets and you will improve very quickly, it doesnt take alot of time to get good if you know how to
good luck
Shades medic povs from this season (he is top 3 medic in world): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFSqKfUAUZk&list=PL4umVTmh9X5s2ek977dfoYDNdDivnwdaP
Nursey's old POVs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17BxF_8dNmw&list=PL-OLPMPP4oZe8aqMuYzOUOHaK2pjMM6aN
Also beater put up a thread that allows you to download and watch STVs from almost every ESEA-Invite and ETF2L Prem seasons from the past: http://www.teamfortress.tv/20985/request-demos
^^^ you can download and watch the old medics even if they dont play tf2 anymore, you can easily catch on the things they do, pay attention to their positioning and the amount of distance they put between themselves and their heal targets and you will improve very quickly, it doesnt take alot of time to get good if you know how to
good luck
Watch some of Marxist's old videos, they might be "outdated' but are loaded with information. Mainly the concept videos, but if you have trouble with maps, he goes over those also.
Where I learned all my tf2 intellect from, and heck, I came to be a top ugc steel medic :^)
https://www.youtube.com/user/MediMarx
*ps-watch the medic precept video mainly, but also watch pocket and demo, maybe even roamer and scouts if you want to know what the other players on the fields are doing. 10/10
Watch some of Marxist's old videos, they might be "outdated' but are loaded with information. Mainly the concept videos, but if you have trouble with maps, he goes over those also.
Where I learned all my tf2 intellect from, and heck, I came to be a top ugc steel medic :^)
https://www.youtube.com/user/MediMarx
*ps-watch the medic precept video mainly, but also watch pocket and demo, maybe even roamer and scouts if you want to know what the other players on the fields are doing. 10/10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lDYNwqtuyQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3_5DmEWCGM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeYbAEGEglM
self-promotion https://www.youtube.com/user/MediMarx/playlists
Includes mostly not totally outdated map guides, class guides, and like 70 demo reviews of new-newish to not so newish players.
self-promotion https://www.youtube.com/user/MediMarx/playlists
Includes mostly not totally outdated map guides, class guides, and like 70 demo reviews of new-newish to not so newish players.
+1 for Marxist I watched all of his videos and it got me a $250 I'm check
also I'd say jumping is more beneficial than surfing because it gets you used to the air strafing physics of the actual game and the timing mechanics for syncing definitely help with surfs (in game that is)
take what slin says with a grain of salt though not everyone can play lobbies as a medic and not want to off themselves (not to mention going for a predetermined number of deaths by baiting super hard)
playing other classes and just playing or watching the game in general will allow you to better understand how to play medic as well
+1 for Marxist I watched all of his videos and it got me a $250 I'm check
also I'd say jumping is more beneficial than surfing because it gets you used to the air strafing physics of the actual game and the timing mechanics for syncing definitely help with surfs (in game that is)
take what slin says with a grain of salt though not everyone can play lobbies as a medic and not want to off themselves (not to mention going for a predetermined number of deaths by baiting super hard)
playing other classes and just playing or watching the game in general will allow you to better understand how to play medic as well