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Post a Medic demo, get a video response
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I realize I've been out of the comp scene a bit and that makes me sad. I get home from work late and can't play scrims and I unfortunately cannot cast either. I figured the best way to get around this is by living vicariously through others. I also think demo reviews are a great way to give back and that's why I've created this thread.

Starting this Thursday I'll be doing Medic demo reviews. Simply post a .Dem file in the thread and I'll post a video response reviewing your gameplay. I can't guarantee that it'll be the most insightful commentary but I'll give it my best shot. A couple rules you need to follow though if you actually want me to watch:

  • 6v6 Medic gameplay only. Pugs are fine, scrims and matches are preferred since I think we will all learn more from watching you try your hardest.
  • STV or POV is fine, I don't particularly care either way.
  • Make sure you post your username and skill level so I can figure out who you are and get to know you a little better. If you're in a league, post the league and division as that's helpful too.
  • One per person, please don't link me 10 demos. Just pick one you think is representative of your current gameplay and abilities. If there's something specific you're working on, be sure to let me know.

I'm looking forward to some great demo review!

I realize I've been out of the comp scene a bit and that makes me sad. I get home from work late and can't play scrims and I unfortunately cannot cast either. I figured the best way to get around this is by living vicariously through others. I also think demo reviews are a great way to give back and that's why I've created this thread.

Starting this Thursday I'll be doing Medic demo reviews. Simply post a .Dem file in the thread and I'll post a video response reviewing your gameplay. I can't guarantee that it'll be the most insightful commentary but I'll give it my best shot. A couple rules you need to follow though if you actually want me to watch:
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[*] 6v6 Medic gameplay only. Pugs are fine, scrims and matches are preferred since I think we will all learn more from watching you try your hardest.
[*] STV or POV is fine, I don't particularly care either way.
[*] Make sure you post your username and skill level so I can figure out who you are and get to know you a little better. If you're in a league, post the league and division as that's helpful too.
[*] One per person, please don't link me 10 demos. Just pick one you think is representative of your current gameplay and abilities. If there's something specific you're working on, be sure to let me know.
[/list]

I'm looking forward to some great demo review!
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Cool!
I just played this last night. It's a scrim on snakewater and im playing my first season in open for s25

edit: nvm i remembered that scrim was shit if you haven't already downloaded that demo don't use it I'll try and get a better one

Cool!
I just played this last night. It's a scrim on snakewater and im playing my first season in open for s25


edit: nvm i remembered that scrim was shit if you haven't already downloaded that demo don't use it I'll try and get a better one
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Alright, here's a process scrim I also just played that we won, but I did have a lot of mistakes so it's all good

https://www.dropbox.com/s/oiraldzg7g3jjif/process_scrim_for_SLIN_Phantom.dem?dl=0

also bump cause other med mains should be getting in on this

Alright, here's a process scrim I also just played that we won, but I did have a lot of mistakes so it's all good

https://www.dropbox.com/s/oiraldzg7g3jjif/process_scrim_for_SLIN_Phantom.dem?dl=0

also bump cause other med mains should be getting in on this
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Here is a scrim we did, our medics name is Lan nguyen. let us know what he/we did wrong :) http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/519224
PS: STV download on stats page

Here is a scrim we did, our medics name is Lan nguyen. let us know what he/we did wrong :) http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/519224
PS: STV download on stats page
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-Phantom-Alright, here's a process scrim I also just played that we won, but I did have a lot of mistakes so it's all good

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also bump cause other med mains should be getting in on this

thanks for submitting a demo! i thought you played really well, had really good mechanics and solid knowledge of the game. i'm impressed for your first season of open :D

TL;DW my two recommendations to you are:
1. positioning. the pathing that you take on teamfights and ubers could be significantly improved.
2. ubers. if you're going to pop the uber anyways on an even exchange, walk forward and pop it in a better place like a choke as opposed to backing off and popping it somewhere where you can't chase the enemy team.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqDElJpvr4A

you played great though!

[quote=-Phantom-]Alright, here's a process scrim I also just played that we won, but I did have a lot of mistakes so it's all good

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also bump cause other med mains should be getting in on this[/quote]
thanks for submitting a demo! i thought you played really well, had really good mechanics and solid knowledge of the game. i'm impressed for your first season of open :D

TL;DW my two recommendations to you are:
1. positioning. the pathing that you take on teamfights and ubers could be significantly improved.
2. ubers. if you're going to pop the uber anyways on an even exchange, walk forward and pop it in a better place like a choke as opposed to backing off and popping it somewhere where you can't chase the enemy team.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqDElJpvr4A

you played great though!
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1O65pK-C6qYNklMUFJES0c0Y3M/view?usp=sharing

ETF2L Mid

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1O65pK-C6qYNklMUFJES0c0Y3M/view?usp=sharing

ETF2L Mid
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Hi Slin,

I am new to 6s so, there are load of things i need to cover. Anyway please review my demo, we have lost all the rounds and a cringe drop. I would like to know how to improve; my teammates said i need to work on my positioning but, I dont know how to position myself effectively.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m3fke9l1nw8pizm/ianiscake.dem?dl=0 <--- the link

Thank you :)

Hi Slin,

I am new to 6s so, there are load of things i need to cover. Anyway please review my demo, we have lost all the rounds and a cringe drop. I would like to know how to improve; my teammates said i need to work on my positioning but, I dont know how to position myself effectively.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m3fke9l1nw8pizm/ianiscake.dem?dl=0 <--- the link

Thank you :)
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thank mr slin

thank mr slin
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http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/519503
Demo download link is in stats, open scrim. Thanks :)

http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/519503
Demo download link is in stats, open scrim. Thanks :)
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#10
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this is from a pug, recently started playing tf2 again so thought getting this reviewed would help me out. https://demos.tf/75593

this is from a pug, recently started playing tf2 again so thought getting this reviewed would help me out. https://demos.tf/75593
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http://www.mediafire.com/file/4aa48k66m3871eb/demo2017-05-25_18-27-00.dem
Their team were really aggro and I couldn't tell if the team was letting them through, or I was just out of position. Probably a mix of both. I think there's a lot for me to work on.

There's 2 halves, but the second half is a little bit memey, so if you don't feel like it you don't have to

I'm Rebite, maybe mid-open? I don't really know https://play.esea.net/teams/8682632

http://www.mediafire.com/file/4aa48k66m3871eb/demo2017-05-25_18-27-00.dem
Their team were really aggro and I couldn't tell if the team was letting them through, or I was just out of position. Probably a mix of both. I think there's a lot for me to work on.

There's 2 halves, but the second half is a little bit memey, so if you don't feel like it you don't have to

I'm Rebite, maybe mid-open? I don't really know https://play.esea.net/teams/8682632
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SyntaxHere is a scrim we did, our medics name is Lan nguyen. let us know what he/we did wrong :) http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/519224
PS: STV download on stats page

Hey, I'd prefer not to do demo reviews for other people who aren't you, if that makes sense. If you're requesting a demo for a teammate, just make sure the teammate posts here asking for it. I'm posting these videos on my YouTube channel and stuff, and I don't want them to feel embarrassed or criticize them publicly against their will. Thanks!

[quote=Syntax]Here is a scrim we did, our medics name is Lan nguyen. let us know what he/we did wrong :) http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/519224
PS: STV download on stats page[/quote]
Hey, I'd prefer not to do demo reviews for other people who aren't you, if that makes sense. If you're requesting a demo for a teammate, just make sure the teammate posts here asking for it. I'm posting these videos on my YouTube channel and stuff, and I don't want them to feel embarrassed or criticize them publicly against their will. Thanks!
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PJChttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1O65pK-C6qYNklMUFJES0c0Y3M/view?usp=sharing

ETF2L Mid

Thanks for submitting a demo! I didn't have time to watch the whole thing, but I feel that I watched enough of the demo to get a good sense of your gameplay. Here's my feedback:

1) You're very, very conservative in your gameplay. You have good teammates who know how to fight, and your team actually won a number of teamfights, especially on last point! When you're winning, win harder. Right now you're playing so safe, but the second you know your team is going to win the teamfight, immediately all-in the opposing team. By playing conservatively, you're giving the enemy team too much respect and are not getting the most out of each win.

Example: Theoretically speaking, your team should win every 5v4 against an evenly matched team like the one featured in your demo. If you get into a 5v4, immediately push as far up as you can without dying or using uber. Push even harder if it's 5v3 or 6v3, etc.! Same goes for uber advantage -- push even harder, walk right up to the enemy team because you're invincible, and test your limits.

2) Make sure your ubers are as effective as possible by saving your ubers for choke points. Ubers are great for breaking chokes, but I often saw you using them while not near the next pushable choke. Once you're through a choke, make a stronger effort to not use uber and instead use the space you're given to avoid damage (and avoid popping).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBobAXnUOI4

Hope this helps!

[quote=PJC]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1O65pK-C6qYNklMUFJES0c0Y3M/view?usp=sharing

ETF2L Mid[/quote]

Thanks for submitting a demo! I didn't have time to watch the whole thing, but I feel that I watched enough of the demo to get a good sense of your gameplay. Here's my feedback:

1) You're very, very conservative in your gameplay. You have good teammates who know how to fight, and your team actually won a number of teamfights, especially on last point! When you're winning, win harder. Right now you're playing so safe, but the second you know your team is going to win the teamfight, immediately all-in the opposing team. By playing conservatively, you're giving the enemy team too much respect and are not getting the most out of each win.

Example: Theoretically speaking, your team should win every 5v4 against an evenly matched team like the one featured in your demo. If you get into a 5v4, immediately push as far up as you can without dying or using uber. Push even harder if it's 5v3 or 6v3, etc.! Same goes for uber advantage -- push even harder, walk right up to the enemy team because you're invincible, and test your limits.

2) Make sure your ubers are as effective as possible by saving your ubers for choke points. Ubers are great for breaking chokes, but I often saw you using them while not near the next pushable choke. Once you're through a choke, make a stronger effort to not use uber and instead use the space you're given to avoid damage (and avoid popping).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBobAXnUOI4

Hope this helps!
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#14
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http://www12.zippyshare.com/v/PvogPMb8/file.html

My name is PNDA. ETF2L low/mid. Scirm with my team, I feel like I could learn alot from when I should be aggressive with ubers.

http://www12.zippyshare.com/v/PvogPMb8/file.html

My name is PNDA. ETF2L low/mid. Scirm with my team, I feel like I could learn alot from when I should be aggressive with ubers.
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My username is kusoban and I play in ETF2L High.

Here's an STV from a recent scrim: https://puu.sh/w1Gq3/c9e86028dc.dem

My username is kusoban and I play in ETF2L High.

Here's an STV from a recent scrim: https://puu.sh/w1Gq3/c9e86028dc.dem
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name: burko
My team is aiming for high open. One thing in particular that i've been trying to work on is my coordination/synergy with my pocket, who made the transition from scout last season, this is a team that we've been trading scrims with recently, and I would like some help fixing where I went wrong.

http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/518272

name: burko
My team is aiming for high open. One thing in particular that i've been trying to work on is my coordination/synergy with my pocket, who made the transition from scout last season, this is a team that we've been trading scrims with recently, and I would like some help fixing where I went wrong.

http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/518272
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/tbehep6mwqku9z2/2017-05-25-21-14-blu_vs_rde-cp_badlands.dem?dl=0

Name is Marcy. Just looking to see what it is I can improve on. My team is in Open.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tbehep6mwqku9z2/2017-05-25-21-14-blu_vs_rde-cp_badlands.dem?dl=0

Name is Marcy. Just looking to see what it is I can improve on. My team is in Open.
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#18
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hiya slin

hiya slin
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hey jacob :)

hey jacob :)
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queenyHi Slin,

I am new to 6s so, there are load of things i need to cover. Anyway please review my demo, we have lost all the rounds and a cringe drop. I would like to know how to improve; my teammates said i need to work on my positioning but, I dont know how to position myself effectively.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m3fke9l1nw8pizm/ianiscake.dem?dl=0 <--- the link

Thank you :)

Hey Queeny. I made a mistake and thought this was a lobby -- my apologies if I offended anyone! The first round went really well for you but it sort of fell apart from there. Sunshine is a difficult map and I recommend that you and your teammates brush up on the rollouts so you have a better chance of winning mids. Outside of that, I made a number of recommendations in the video about where you can stand, but here's the summary:

1) Each control point has two spots - a spot you stand when you're winning, and a spot you stand when you're losing. You're often standing in the winning spot on 2nd and last points when you're losing, causing you to get forced or die. On second point when you're losing, stand to the right of the lighthouse. On last point, hold top left. You'll know you're losing when you're 5v6, have uber disadvantage, etc.

2) You're standing too close to your opponent when they have uber advantage and I saw you get caught out a couple times. Don't be afraid to drop the beam to put distance between you and your opponent -- if you're dying, it should be clear that you are too close to the enemy! Work with your team to stand farther back, but just know that it's perfectly acceptable to drop the beam for a few seconds in order to make sure you don't die. Your teammates may need to push up ahead of you to do damage, get an uber force, or otherwise create space, and you might need to stand back to protect yourself while your teammates are preoccupied.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRfwlQbJ86s

Let me know if you have follow up questions for this one :D

[quote=queeny]Hi Slin,

I am new to 6s so, there are load of things i need to cover. Anyway please review my demo, we have lost all the rounds and a cringe drop. I would like to know how to improve; my teammates said i need to work on my positioning but, I dont know how to position myself effectively.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m3fke9l1nw8pizm/ianiscake.dem?dl=0 <--- the link

Thank you :)[/quote]
Hey Queeny. I made a mistake and thought this was a lobby -- my apologies if I offended anyone! The first round went really well for you but it sort of fell apart from there. Sunshine is a difficult map and I recommend that you and your teammates brush up on the rollouts so you have a better chance of winning mids. Outside of that, I made a number of recommendations in the video about where you can stand, but here's the summary:

1) Each control point has two spots - a spot you stand when you're winning, and a spot you stand when you're losing. You're often standing in the winning spot on 2nd and last points when you're losing, causing you to get forced or die. On second point when you're losing, stand to the right of the lighthouse. On last point, hold top left. You'll know you're losing when you're 5v6, have uber disadvantage, etc.

2) You're standing too close to your opponent when they have uber advantage and I saw you get caught out a couple times. Don't be afraid to drop the beam to put distance between you and your opponent -- if you're dying, it should be clear that you are too close to the enemy! Work with your team to stand farther back, but just know that it's perfectly acceptable to drop the beam for a few seconds in order to make sure you don't die. Your teammates may need to push up ahead of you to do damage, get an uber force, or otherwise create space, and you might need to stand back to protect yourself while your teammates are preoccupied.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRfwlQbJ86s

Let me know if you have follow up questions for this one :D
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EasyEhttp://sizzlingstats.com/stats/519503
Demo download link is in stats, open scrim. Thanks :)

Hey EasyE, you have really good aim :o

Sorry if it sounds like I'm bashing your teammates, but your medic is simply healing your soldiers too much and ignoring you, which is not cool. Your medic had 5 deaths this scrim so it's clear to me that he's skilled, but he's not taking advantage of your crit heals which is a super inexpensive way to keep you alive, create space for the team, and get kills. He should be prioritizing crit heals on scouts at every opportunity, so work with your team to make that happen (it's possible your teammates are calling for too many heals and you're just not saying anything about it). Here's the TL;DR of the video:

1) Your medic needs to heal you more. Period.
1a) Crit heal you before teamfights as you're running in -- he should turn around and quickly tap you up to full before you enter the battle.
1b) He should heal you in the middle of teamfights. At a certain point your soldiers will jump away to high ground to zone out the opposing team or maybe they'll bomb in to get a kill. This is the perfect opportunity for your medic to hop on you and ride the chariot forward as you grab kills. This does a couple things: a) it gives you more health to survive as you push for those cleanup frags, b) gives the medic increased speed so he can catch up to the front lines, c) the increased speed will help him dodge bombing players.
1c) Caveat to point #1 - I don't want you to interpret this as a free pass to tank tons of damage and ask for heals all the time. Spend your health wisely, avoiding as much damage as you can. The buff is there to give you confidence to get aggressive. If you're at 125, you'll notice you have to play much more conservatively. Once you get that buff, boom you're ready to push and get frags.

2) Your aim was good, I thought you had great mechanics.

3) Don't build ubers to 90% on advantage pushes. Build them to 80-85%, then start moving towards the choke point you want to uber through while you crit heal players and set up for the push. By the time you're set up you'll be at 100%.

https://youtu.be/BrgER1lo9Q4

[quote=EasyE]http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/519503
Demo download link is in stats, open scrim. Thanks :)[/quote]
Hey EasyE, you have really good aim :o

Sorry if it sounds like I'm bashing your teammates, but your medic is simply healing your soldiers too much and ignoring you, which is not cool. Your medic had 5 deaths this scrim so it's clear to me that he's skilled, but he's not taking advantage of your crit heals which is a super inexpensive way to keep you alive, create space for the team, and get kills. He should be prioritizing crit heals on scouts at every opportunity, so work with your team to make that happen (it's possible your teammates are calling for too many heals and you're just not saying anything about it). Here's the TL;DR of the video:

1) Your medic needs to heal you more. Period.
1a) Crit heal you before teamfights as you're running in -- he should turn around and quickly tap you up to full before you enter the battle.
1b) He should heal you in the middle of teamfights. At a certain point your soldiers will jump away to high ground to zone out the opposing team or maybe they'll bomb in to get a kill. This is the perfect opportunity for your medic to hop on you and ride the chariot forward as you grab kills. This does a couple things: a) it gives you more health to survive as you push for those cleanup frags, b) gives the medic increased speed so he can catch up to the front lines, c) the increased speed will help him dodge bombing players.
1c) Caveat to point #1 - I don't want you to interpret this as a free pass to tank tons of damage and ask for heals all the time. Spend your health wisely, avoiding as much damage as you can. The buff is there to give you confidence to get aggressive. If you're at 125, you'll notice you have to play much more conservatively. Once you get that buff, boom you're ready to push and get frags.

2) Your aim was good, I thought you had great mechanics.

3) Don't build ubers to 90% on advantage pushes. Build them to 80-85%, then start moving towards the choke point you want to uber through while you crit heal players and set up for the push. By the time you're set up you'll be at 100%.

https://youtu.be/BrgER1lo9Q4
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Hiya Mr slin,

Thank you very much for the review! I will immediately apply these tips!

Thank you :)

Hiya Mr slin,

Thank you very much for the review! I will immediately apply these tips!

Thank you :)
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Hey Mr. Slin,

My name is deo. This is a match in Asia Fortress Cup, division 3 Grand Final. Please help me to see where I actually did wrong and made mistakes since my teammates were blaming me for nearly everything and told me it was my fault that they lost the game. Thank you.

Link: https://mega.nz/#!1wZXzZLT!sFPAWToy8CrNJUfFSsOhdHgyWnDfsyeYJEk1-um60XE

Hey Mr. Slin,

My name is deo. This is a match in Asia Fortress Cup, division 3 Grand Final. Please help me to see where I actually did wrong and made mistakes since my teammates were blaming me for nearly everything and told me it was my fault that they lost the game. Thank you.

Link: https://mega.nz/#!1wZXzZLT!sFPAWToy8CrNJUfFSsOhdHgyWnDfsyeYJEk1-um60XE
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hi mr slin.

i love your twitch streams and i think you're a great medic. i'd love it if you could review my demo. i play in UGC steel 6's. the map is koth_bagel_rc2. the demo includes a pre-game scrim and an official match for week 3. the demo begins at tick 269302 (yeah the demo is super long)

the match was really exhilarating. please enjoy

demo download link:
https://www.mediafire.com/?espxj5wyjjfxjx6

-source

hi mr slin.

i love your twitch streams and i think you're a great medic. i'd love it if you could review my demo. i play in UGC steel 6's. the map is koth_bagel_rc2. the demo includes a pre-game scrim and an official match for week 3. the demo begins at tick 269302 (yeah the demo is super long)

the match was really exhilarating. please enjoy


demo download link:
https://www.mediafire.com/?espxj5wyjjfxjx6

-source
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MR_SLINEasyEhttp://sizzlingstats.com/stats/519503
Demo download link is in stats, open scrim. Thanks :)
Medic Info

https://youtu.be/BrgER1lo9Q4

Thanks for the tips for me too!

[quote=MR_SLIN][quote=EasyE]http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/519503
Demo download link is in stats, open scrim. Thanks :)[/quote]
Medic Info

https://youtu.be/BrgER1lo9Q4[/quote]

Thanks for the tips for me too!
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EasyEhttp://sizzlingstats.com/stats/519503
Demo download link is in stats, open scrim. Thanks :)

why do you gotta choose the match where i experimented with dubious milking and drop 4 times :(

[quote=EasyE]http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/519503
Demo download link is in stats, open scrim. Thanks :)[/quote]

why do you gotta choose the match where i experimented with dubious milking and drop 4 times :(
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http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/517401

http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/517401
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#28
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review the demo (Reoccurring1) or medic (Neon) please

https://serveme.tf/uploads/76561198098412553-662187-221-20170524.zip

review the demo (Reoccurring1) or medic (Neon) please

https://serveme.tf/uploads/76561198098412553-662187-221-20170524.zip
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ETF2L Low (2nd lowest div) https://serveme.tf/uploads/76561198012692998-663417-315-20170527.zip the reckoner one, red med http://logs.tf/1735515

Thanks!

ETF2L Low (2nd lowest div) https://serveme.tf/uploads/76561198012692998-663417-315-20170527.zip the reckoner one, red med http://logs.tf/1735515

Thanks!
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