how about top players start playing faceit because currently it's b4nny subs and ugc players

if umore top players gave that a try then who knows maybe we dont need to change pugchamp and we can let that die and make faceit the main platform

I think pugchamp is nice with the captain system. I think mixchamp should be more advertised though

I like the way pugchamp is atm except for a couple reasons that can easily be fixed

• Punish people who bait pugs into starting by fulfilling the requirements and then getting off back into w/e they applied for so that startup bar happens
  
• Longer bans for awful pug captains, sick and tired of clueless dolts captaining and then playing the victim card about how they just wanted the pug to start and no one was gonna captain, make somewhat decent picks or fuck off (vote kill system from the players who are on the site might be able to prevent this garbage and more but could be abused)
  
• Think bkn said this but I think pugs should be ban to the last map, reduces variety but there are times where you can get a shit map because of the 2 random bans at first.

Also I applied to captain for 4-5 pugs the last couple days only to get fucked by retards who ended up getting rolled in 5 seconds so the RNG captain shit is rigged

yes

very much yes

PLEASE

afaik there's still hidden captain elo based on the sucess of pugs you picked so even if you haven't ever captained before, if someone's captained 1 or 2 pugs that they won, even if it was barely won, their captain elo will be higher and the system will award them the captain spot

this is the reason behind bkn, milan, or rocket captained invite pugs over invite players added on captain

i mean pugchamp is already going to fall because of faceit, so fixing it will serve no use to the community.

People liked to say tf2center would fail because of tf2stadium.

Excuse me for the necro but I was thinking about ways to make pugs start faster and I came up with the idea of making it so that if there is already a pug going on, the amount of games needed to captain goes down; this would potentially make it easier to get captains for b and c pugs and to help them start faster.

Sorry if the idea has already been proposed, I couldn’t read through the entire thread

really the only thing slowing down pugs is no meds

honestly there are plenty of players with enough pugs to captain, so at least in my experience this isn't the problem. The problem is players not wanting to captain/players not wanting to med.

lets reduce the number of meds required to start a game then

yes lets start a game with only one medic added thats the way

there's two things that make pugs slow:
1) no one wants to med
2) people take 5 years to join mumble/server

the second thing you can enforce kinda like faceit but you can't really do anything about the first