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Comprehensive North American Highlander History
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I know this is a 6s site nowadays but I know there's plenty of cross-over players here so:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1093444273

A comprehensive history of North American Highlander from 2007 to now, featuring:

* 24 in-depth content sections covering 10 years of Highlander history
* 20 Contributors who provided their insight featuring quotes, interviews, or content including Hildreth, Salamancer, Mustardoverlord, Extine, Skarlett, TMP, Spamfest, Kresnik, and more.
* Content used from 20+ other groups / people, including recovered articles from the now defunct Vanilla.tv website, m4risa, Sneakypolarbear, Kip, EVL, teamfortress.tv, and more.
* Over 40 hours of select Highlander content from 64 videos including POV matches, casts, and montages.

I hope that people will enjoy this, it’s very long and I’d recommend reading a few sections a day so you can enjoy the videos and what not alongside it. Even if you’re not super into Highlander, you might learn a few things!

I just want to make sure there is a semblance of a history preserved and so if the competitive scene does die out at least there will be stuff showing others what happened and it isn’t just all forgotten.

Since I know it’ll be asked, I am interested in doing a 6s one as well (considering I came from 6s first), but I want to wait until it looks like 6s won’t bounce back population wise and I want to see what the reception to this one is like. I’ve been collecting information and tracking stuff for a 6s history piece for awhile now though in preparation, but if this isn’t well liked by the overall competitive community then I am unlikely to continue into 6s as this alone was close to 3 months of work and 6s would be a much more time consuming project to tackle since it has a much more in-depth history with a much more detailed past caught on video, LANs, cups, multiple different leagues, etc.

Enjoy. :)

I know this is a 6s site nowadays but I know there's plenty of cross-over players here so:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1093444273

A comprehensive history of North American Highlander from 2007 to now, featuring:

* 24 in-depth content sections covering 10 years of Highlander history
* 20 Contributors who provided their insight featuring quotes, interviews, or content including Hildreth, Salamancer, Mustardoverlord, Extine, Skarlett, TMP, Spamfest, Kresnik, and more.
* Content used from 20+ other groups / people, including recovered articles from the now defunct Vanilla.tv website, m4risa, Sneakypolarbear, Kip, EVL, teamfortress.tv, and more.
* Over 40 hours of select Highlander content from 64 videos including POV matches, casts, and montages.

I hope that people will enjoy this, it’s very long and I’d recommend reading a few sections a day so you can enjoy the videos and what not alongside it. Even if you’re not super into Highlander, you might learn a few things!

I just want to make sure there is a semblance of a history preserved and so if the competitive scene does die out at least there will be stuff showing others what happened and it isn’t just all forgotten.

Since I know it’ll be asked, [b]I am interested in doing a 6s one as well[/b] (considering I came from 6s first), but I want to wait until it looks like 6s won’t bounce back population wise and I want to see what the reception to this one is like. I’ve been collecting information and tracking stuff for a 6s history piece for awhile now though in preparation, but if this isn’t well liked by the overall competitive community then I am unlikely to continue into 6s as this alone was close to 3 months of work and 6s would be a [i]much more[/i] time consuming project to tackle since it has a much more in-depth history with a much more detailed past caught on video, LANs, cups, multiple different leagues, etc.

Enjoy. :)
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#2
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before all the lol hl messages come in, just wanna say good job and altho i haven't started actually reading it yet i'm already impressed by the dedication you've put in, and i'd love to see a 6s edition too.

before all the lol hl messages come in, just wanna say good job and altho i haven't started actually reading it yet i'm already impressed by the dedication you've put in, and i'd love to see a 6s edition too.
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#3
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lol hl but also pretty fucking good job dude. i really like the stuff on valve's effect on hl as well as non-ugc stuff that still affected NA players

lol hl but also pretty fucking good job dude. i really like the stuff on valve's effect on hl as well as non-ugc stuff that still affected NA players
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#4
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This is incredible. Amazing work

This is incredible. Amazing work
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#5
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Thanks, there's a lot of cool stuff in 6s to cover, and a lot of my spare time preparing for that has been archiving pictures of key topics of Gotfrag from archiving sites and trying to get footage stored in case any of it gets removed. There's a lot more footage of the older days to be had (e.g. Reptiles frag vid from 2007 with the epic crit rocket spam on Dustbowl rofl), along with plenty of key matches like Tony Hawk Pro Skaters vs Dynamic in S8 which had the Battalion's Backup debacle, the dual Natascha heavy season, the heavy sponsor era of TF2, the private Invite competitive beta, etc.

There's a lot of things I'd like to improve on this one eventually (e.g. rework the Dead Ringer Storage sections into the previous 2 sections), but I'm limited by Steam Guide limitations in this respect ATM. (each section has a character limit and it's hard to segue them across well, this character limit isn't supposed to be there...but it's existed for like 1.5 years now), and there is content I wish I could have got earlier (like the S3 finals w/ CLASSIC) or people I wish would have agreed to give me some content but felt they had nothing to contribute.

Thanks, there's a lot of cool stuff in 6s to cover, and a lot of my spare time preparing for that has been archiving pictures of key topics of Gotfrag from archiving sites and trying to get footage stored in case any of it gets removed. There's a lot more footage of the older days to be had (e.g. Reptiles frag vid from 2007 with the epic crit rocket spam on Dustbowl rofl), along with plenty of key matches like Tony Hawk Pro Skaters vs Dynamic in S8 which had the Battalion's Backup debacle, the dual Natascha heavy season, the heavy sponsor era of TF2, the private Invite competitive beta, etc.

There's a lot of things I'd like to improve on this one eventually (e.g. rework the Dead Ringer Storage sections into the previous 2 sections), but I'm limited by Steam Guide limitations in this respect ATM. (each section has a character limit and it's hard to segue them across well, this character limit isn't supposed to be there...but it's existed for like 1.5 years now), and there is content I wish I could have got earlier (like the S3 finals w/ CLASSIC) or people I wish would have agreed to give me some content but felt they had nothing to contribute.
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#6
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19,126 Words. Jesus fucking christ. How long did it take you to write this? This shit is amazing, even if it is just Highlander.

19,126 Words. Jesus fucking christ. How long did it take you to write this? This shit is amazing, even if it is just Highlander.
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#7
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ICL19,126 Words. Jesus fucking christ. How long did it take you to write this? This shit is amazing, even if it is just Highlander.

Well to give you an idea, at 12 point font, times new roman, double spaced, a page is roughly 250 words. He wrote 19,126, so if this were an essay it would 76.504 pages. Add all the research he had to do and yea. This is really impressive, nice work.

[quote=ICL]19,126 Words. Jesus fucking christ. How long did it take you to write this? This shit is amazing, even if it is just Highlander.[/quote]

Well to give you an idea, at 12 point font, times new roman, double spaced, a page is roughly 250 words. He wrote 19,126, so if this were an essay it would 76.504 pages. Add all the research he had to do and yea. This is really impressive, nice work.
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#8
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ICL19,126 Words. Jesus fucking christ. How long did it take you to write this? This shit is amazing, even if it is just Highlander.

I started collecting & watching videos in my spare time in early June, and started committing to writing out the broad strokes in in my spare time in late July, made the Steam Guide version ~August 10th (which was just starting Season 4's stuff), made it friends only viewable on August 27th (it was up to Season 8 here), reached out to everyone all across August, and between the 27th and now finished everything from Season 9 to present.

[quote=ICL]19,126 Words. Jesus fucking christ. How long did it take you to write this? This shit is amazing, even if it is just Highlander.[/quote]

I started collecting & watching videos in my spare time in early June, and started committing to writing out the broad strokes in in my spare time in late July, made the Steam Guide version ~August 10th (which was just starting Season 4's stuff), made it friends only viewable on August 27th (it was up to Season 8 here), reached out to everyone all across August, and between the 27th and now finished everything from Season 9 to present.
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#9
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sorry if I went a lil overboard on my section, I was just OVERWHELMED with EMOTION

sorry if I went a lil overboard on my section, I was just OVERWHELMED with EMOTION
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#10
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mustardoverlordsorry if I went a lil overboard on my section, I was just OVERWHELMED with EMOTION

Holy shit when you realize you were solely responsible for organizing the one event Mustardoverlord ever won in TF2.

Dead Ringer Storage was also best name in HL.

[quote=mustardoverlord]sorry if I went a lil overboard on my section, I was just OVERWHELMED with EMOTION[/quote]

Holy shit when you realize you were solely responsible for organizing the one event Mustardoverlord ever won in TF2.

Dead Ringer Storage was also best name in HL.
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#11
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Also I credit you for including the background from before TF2 even existed, I remember SourceOP HL Pugs as my first experience of any sort of competitive TF2 and even though by today's standards it was dreadful, I remember getting destroyed by some random people and using this as a drive to improve myself.

Also I credit you for including the background from before TF2 even existed, I remember SourceOP HL Pugs as my first experience of any sort of competitive TF2 and even though by today's standards it was dreadful, I remember getting destroyed by some random people and using this as a drive to improve myself.
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#12
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This is a really good read, I enjoyed it. You hit almost every event on the head, with the exception of a few things in the past 2-3 seasons I wouldn't expect someone not really participating in platinum anymore to get, such as barycenter putting up godly numbers and chill penguins upsetting the favorite to secure 3rd place twice in a row - but other than that, this is very well made. Well done.

This is a really good read, I enjoyed it. You hit almost every event on the head, with the exception of a few things in the past 2-3 seasons I wouldn't expect someone not really participating in platinum anymore to get, such as barycenter putting up godly numbers and chill penguins upsetting the favorite to secure 3rd place twice in a row - but other than that, this is very well made. Well done.
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SpuThis is a really good read, I enjoyed it. You hit almost every event on the head, with the exception of a few things in the past 2-3 seasons I wouldn't expect someone not really participating in platinum anymore to get, such as barycenter putting up godly numbers and chill penguins upsetting the favorite to secure 3rd place twice in a row - but other than that, this is very well made. Well done.

Ah that's unfortunate, whymeo told me she didn't have anything to contribute so I didn't look too terribly hard into modern Chill Penguins because of that. I'll try to remedy that kind of stuff the next time I update, but I'm looking at not updating this very often (hopefully only 1-2 times a year and doing seasons in batches)

Thanks though Spu, hopefully you guys pound this season so I can have an in-depth interview with the legendary TroLL Pumpkiin eSports.

[quote=Spu]This is a really good read, I enjoyed it. You hit almost every event on the head, with the exception of a few things in the past 2-3 seasons I wouldn't expect someone not really participating in platinum anymore to get, such as barycenter putting up godly numbers and chill penguins upsetting the favorite to secure 3rd place twice in a row - but other than that, this is very well made. Well done.[/quote]

Ah that's unfortunate, whymeo told me she didn't have anything to contribute so I didn't look too terribly hard into modern Chill Penguins because of that. I'll try to remedy that kind of stuff the next time I update, but I'm looking at not updating this very often (hopefully only 1-2 times a year and doing seasons in batches)

Thanks though Spu, hopefully you guys pound this season so I can have an in-depth interview with the legendary TroLL Pumpkiin eSports.
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#14
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This took me on a huge nostalgia trip and made me remember why I love TF2. Thank you so much for this.

This took me on a huge nostalgia trip and made me remember why I love TF2. Thank you so much for this.
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#15
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DarkNecridUGC S7
Inexplicably people actually started Highlander during this season and didn't quit immediately afterwards.

That would be me rofl, those maps were straightup garbage tier, everytime I see people bitch about map pools I think of that season and just laugh.

[quote=DarkNecrid]UGC S7
Inexplicably people actually started Highlander during this season and didn't quit immediately afterwards.[/quote]

That would be me rofl, those maps were straightup garbage tier, everytime I see people bitch about map pools I think of that season and just laugh.
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Good to see this completed, very nice job

Good to see this completed, very nice job
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#17
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This reminds me of the video the fragile on the history of NA 6v6 which despite also being very long was very interesting. These kind of documentation with lots of effort put in are always interesting to read.

Would be nice to see ones covering the EU scene or even scenes further afield such as asia or AUS as this and the fragiles video were mostly about NA.

I understand that both OP and TheFragile are from NA and may not know the history of european tf2 very well. There were some things on vanillaTF2 if i remember correctly but since that site went down I dont know if anyone archived them.

This reminds me of the video [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLRhmad9Jq4]the fragile on the history of NA 6v6[/url] which despite also being very long was very interesting. These kind of documentation with lots of effort put in are always interesting to read.

Would be nice to see ones covering the EU scene or even scenes further afield such as asia or AUS as this and the fragiles video were mostly about NA.

I understand that both OP and TheFragile are from NA and may not know the history of european tf2 very well. There were some things on vanillaTF2 if i remember correctly but since that site went down I dont know if anyone archived them.
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#18
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ComangliaDarkNecridUGC S7
Inexplicably people actually started Highlander during this season and didn't quit immediately afterwards.

That would be me rofl, those maps were straightup garbage tier, everytime I see people bitch about map pools I think of that season and just laugh.

never forget ctf_haunt too that was a classic

[quote=Comanglia][quote=DarkNecrid]UGC S7
Inexplicably people actually started Highlander during this season and didn't quit immediately afterwards.[/quote]

That would be me rofl, those maps were straightup garbage tier, everytime I see people bitch about map pools I think of that season and just laugh.[/quote]
never forget ctf_haunt too that was a classic
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#19
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This is depressing, only because it makes me realize that if I started playing 6s instead of hl back when I got into comp tf2, I'd probably be good at the game.

This is depressing, only because it makes me realize that if I started playing 6s instead of hl back when I got into comp tf2, I'd probably be good at the game.
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TF2Pickup
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AntimoonThis is depressing, only because it makes me realize that if I started playing 6s instead of hl back when I got into comp tf2, I'd probably be good at the game.

Only depressing thing is reading this tbh (your post not the docu)

[quote=Antimoon]This is depressing, only because it makes me realize that if I started playing 6s instead of hl back when I got into comp tf2, I'd probably be good at the game.[/quote]

Only depressing thing is reading this tbh (your post not the docu)
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#21
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KuferlAntimoonThis is depressing, only because it makes me realize that if I started playing 6s instead of hl back when I got into comp tf2, I'd probably be good at the game.
Only depressing thing is reading this tbh (your post not the docu)

Uh, if you say so.

[quote=Kuferl][quote=Antimoon]This is depressing, only because it makes me realize that if I started playing 6s instead of hl back when I got into comp tf2, I'd probably be good at the game.[/quote]

Only depressing thing is reading this tbh (your post not the docu)[/quote]
Uh, if you say so.
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I could totally use a catchy name for the 6s one by the way, Highlander has it easy with the Highlander catchphrase of "There can be only one". 6s has a lot of things going for it from a writing perspective (LANs, the more interesting community on Gotfrag especially, a much longer and more interesting rivalry between players), but it sort of lacks anything I could really think of as a catchy lead in name. Closest I could think of is literally just "That's a meatshot" or something.

I'm still not planning on going hard on this for awhile but I'm pretty bankrupt on ideas on a name.

I could totally use a catchy name for the 6s one by the way, Highlander has it easy with the Highlander catchphrase of "There can be only one". 6s has a lot of things going for it from a writing perspective (LANs, the more interesting community on Gotfrag especially, a much longer and more interesting rivalry between players), but it sort of lacks anything I could really think of as a catchy lead in name. Closest I could think of is literally just "That's a meatshot" or something.

I'm still not planning on going hard on this for awhile but I'm pretty bankrupt on ideas on a name.
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#23
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DarkNecridI could totally use a catchy name for the 6s one by the way, Highlander has it easy with the Highlander catchphrase of "There can be only one". 6s has a lot of things going for it from a writing perspective (LANs, the more interesting community on Gotfrag especially, a much longer and more interesting rivalry between players), but it sort of lacks anything I could really think of as a catchy lead in name. Closest I could think of is literally just "That's a meatshot" or something.

I'm still not planning on going hard on this for awhile but I'm pretty bankrupt on ideas on a name.

"lolhl"

[quote=DarkNecrid]I could totally use a catchy name for the 6s one by the way, Highlander has it easy with the Highlander catchphrase of "There can be only one". 6s has a lot of things going for it from a writing perspective (LANs, the more interesting community on Gotfrag especially, a much longer and more interesting rivalry between players), but it sort of lacks anything I could really think of as a catchy lead in name. Closest I could think of is literally just "That's a meatshot" or something.

I'm still not planning on going hard on this for awhile but I'm pretty bankrupt on ideas on a name.[/quote]
"lolhl"
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#24
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What happened to this guide?

What happened to this guide?
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#25
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https://www.teamfortress.tv/49001/ban-pred-and-degu/?page=11#304

https://www.teamfortress.tv/49001/ban-pred-and-degu/?page=11#304
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#26
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Shredder2600What happened to this guide?

It's archived at least, but it's a bit slow to load: https://web.archive.org/web/20170914083947/http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1093444273

[quote=Shredder2600]What happened to this guide?[/quote]

It's archived at least, but it's a bit slow to load: https://web.archive.org/web/20170914083947/http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1093444273
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