when it got revived a couple weeks ago, it started dying off cuz it would get to 11/12 ppl and then when the ready thing would go off and half the people would not be ready. its literally only dead because no one adds up

thats what im saying, the 40 people added up to these random pug groups sprouting up can just add up to pugchamp but they dont for some reason

They don't for a couple of reasons, the first being that pug groups have a more consistent stream of medics because they just random the meds. there's also the factor of certain people just not wanting to play with other people because they don't like them/are aids to play with. Personally, every time I added to pugchamp there was always like 1 or two dumb people who you had to pick because the other captain would pick them and stack a team if you didn't, but they were toxic as fuck and would ruin your pug experience, in in-houses when someone's overly toxic they get banned. Lower level pugs have a fat kid system which is very helpful. there's also just a difference in how people want to pug. Being overly serious vs just wanting to have a chill time and mess around with your friends. having multiple places that people can go to means these sorts of differences of opinion can be settled by just playing in different places.

Circlejerks killed pugs, now circlejerks pissed no pugs.

Circle of life.

Manwithnolegs

because the game is dead

getting fatkidded in inhouses usually guarantees you a spot in the next pug. getting fatkidded on pugchamp by the same 9 invite players goes all night.

yea but that's a result of nobody adding up. back in like 2017 there'd be a B and a C pug to add up to

at this point honestly we're all just waiting for faceit or RGL pugs to come out so efforts to revive pugchamp are short lived

Idk about u guys but every time I tried to add up the site would lag out and give the annoying disconnect sound guaranteed within ten mins. Can mute it but then might miss the thing starting. I think the move is to just wait (forever) for the RGL pugs to start. If erynn and tsc still played the game and fm could fix the site to auto reconnect and re add you and re ready up after a disconnect (or better yet fix the shitty server that always disconnects) it would be good, but the site is literally redirected to legacy.pug.champ.gg or whatever, shit is dead as far as updates go.

It would be nice if there was like advanced+ pugs where ppl main classes and tried like in pugchamp cuz maybe I'm missing out but 90% of these in-house ones I see are off classing lower level ones. Jemond pugs are good but fuck that midnight start time bro some of us have lives lmao. Maybe new people can get admin and start them earlier like 7 or 8 est before scrims

what pug groups do ppl use

someone makes an open pug system, people play it, people get tired of having to play with morons so they go to inhouses, the only people left playing the pug system are the ones who aren't in inhouses, the pug system dies and everyone plays in different pug groups, someone makes a new open system to try and bring everyone back together, repeat

Y’all banned all the goats mane

Unban me and perfection and pugchamp instantly revives

First day back from Hiatus and mfs had that bih popping

Admin decides to roll back the site cause people are finally using the website again, and I get banned and then they decide to mirror RGL even tho I did my initial 6 months and the 2 bans had no correlation

I’m bringing it up, yes I’m still salty, suck my dick

No diss to erynn(pugchamp was my first love), but shit is lame

Cut it out

feno you are so bad at tf2 you had to cheat to get picked in pugs lol

the bottleneck will always be medics (the class is awfully designed / in direct contradiction with how the other combat classes play) , inhouses work by forcing people to medic, if they didn't theyd be just as dead as pughchamp

Barry bonds without steroids is still Barry bonds

Loooooool I swear imma chill after this

Here’s the thing righhhhhh, when I say pugchamp was popping, I’m talking 2-3 pugs happening at the same time, 2020 summer vibes frfr

Lmao But Ye, like I was saying.... pugchamp admins, people want an environment to pug that’s with friends and to be entertained and one thing about fenomeno and perfection you could call us cheater, bad, ego maniac, but you were entertained (it’s not narcissism if it’s true, smd) but Ye free the goats mane

But y’all got it, I’m over it

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i blame b4nny and faceit for this. i used to like pugchamp and would pug there almost every day. hasnt been the same since faceit became a thing in 6s

rofl

i think its more because people treat medics like shit in pugs cause the class's mistakes are easier to notice and more impactful than other classes, and as such people dont rlly med unless they have to

Bring back TF2Lobby

iirc captains were quite often killing B pug just to wait for A pug to end so prem players could add up

yea this is why i stopped bothering.

I mean ur right but I think the bigger factor is that medic just isn't fun to play for most people even if there is no toxicity. most 6s players primarily play scout/soldier/demoman, and these all have a lot of overlap with each other in playstyle, so scout players will happily play soldier/demo and vice versa.

medic doesn't have the same playstyle overlap so people are much less willing to offclass to medic on average. even in a pug where no one is toxic playing medic still feels like a chore for a good 90% of the player base.

imagine hlpugs right now

that site died bc developers legitimately let it get broken to an unusable point years ago. excuse is "RGL pugs are coming soon!!" which theyve been using since 2019

tf2center is basically unplayable because of site glitches. hoping rgl pugs are actually gonna happen cause not everyone has access to inhouses

Yeah I’m pretty sure pugchamp died bcus the servers that host the actual pugs themselves seem to implode every time. and tbf almost every tf2 server these days have lag problems but more often than not in the pugchamps I’ve played in the <2 months have been borderline unplayable bcus of server issues.

I did notice they un hide elo and win rate in pugchamp, that shit is pretty cool. Would love to use it more but ya ppl prefer pug groups where they can exclude ppl they don’t wanna play with and everyone is expected to play medic.

RGL lobby system / pugs ETA?