"hundred. | tf2's best 100 players best frags"
As Tery's fantastic list of NA TF2's top 100 players of all time nears completion, I'd like to start work on a large-scale project called "hundred." This project would go from #100 to #1 on Tery's list, showcasing one or two frag clips from each player that demonstrates their abilities as best as possible.
If you don't know: on top of teaching, I am a professional video editor running my own studio that I started up during COVID lockdowns to make extra $$. I'd love to tackle this project solo, but 1) i do not have the time, 2) frag editing pisses me off, and 3) i'd love for this to be a somewhat collaborative project. So instead, the project will consist of the following:
- intro (made by me)
- multiple editors' stylized* frag videos, each one-song-long, going through 15-20 clips each
- outro and credits (made by me)
I will be paying $60 per minute of content produced. You will have a good amount of creative freedom within your allotted edits. I understand that this is not a hyper-competitive rate in the video space as a whole, but it's more than I've seen for tf2-specific video projects, and I'm on a teacher's salary ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- If you are experienced in editing stylistic* frag movies and would like to apply, submit here: https://forms.gle/hcy8XdnCgcsTC1zf9
- If you are interested in supporting this project financially (along with NA/EU newbie mixes, voice.tf, and other misc. projects), check out my patreon slush fund. This project will cost around $1500-$2000, and having funds allows me to do more cool stuff: https://www.patreon.com/TF2IsPwn
- If you are on the top 100 list, I will try to be in touch to get your ideas for ideal clips (& social links/ etc.) in the coming months.
- If you would like to contribute in any other way (misc skills, demo hunting, etc.) or make a one time donation (including org sponsorships or producer creds), please let me know via discord: KevinIsPwn#1337
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* by stylized, i mean more frag MOVIE, as opposed to frag CLIPS. think "PREM by cube" or "Red light green light", less frag clips thread.
[h]"hundred. | tf2's best 100 players best frags"[/h]
[i]As Tery's fantastic list of NA TF2's top 100 players of all time nears completion, I'd like to start work on a large-scale project called "hundred." This project would go from #100 to #1 on Tery's list, showcasing one or two frag clips from each player that demonstrates their abilities as best as possible.[/i]
If you don't know: on top of teaching, I am a professional video editor running my own studio that I started up during COVID lockdowns to make extra $$. I'd love to tackle this project solo, but 1) i do not have the time, 2) frag editing pisses me off, and 3) i'd love for this to be a somewhat collaborative project. So instead, the project will consist of the following:
- intro (made by me)
- multiple editors' [b]stylized*[/b] frag videos, each one-song-long, going through 15-20 clips each
- outro and credits (made by me)
[b]I will be paying $60 per minute of content produced.[/b] You will have a good amount of creative freedom within your allotted edits. I understand that this is not a hyper-competitive rate in the video space as a whole, but it's more than I've seen for tf2-specific video projects, and I'm on a teacher's salary ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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[*] [b]If you are experienced in editing stylistic* frag movies[/b] and would like to apply, submit here: https://forms.gle/hcy8XdnCgcsTC1zf9
[*] [b]If you are interested in supporting this project financially[/b] (along with NA/EU newbie mixes, voice.tf, and other misc. projects), check out my patreon slush fund. This project will cost around $1500-$2000, and having funds allows me to do more cool stuff: https://www.patreon.com/TF2IsPwn
[*] If you are on the top 100 list, I will try to be in touch to get your ideas for ideal clips (& social links/ etc.) in the coming months.
[*] If you would like to contribute in any other way (misc skills, demo hunting, etc.) or make a one time donation (including org sponsorships or producer creds), please let me know via discord: KevinIsPwn#1337
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[spoiler][i]* by stylized, i mean more frag MOVIE, as opposed to frag CLIPS. think "PREM by cube" or "Red light green light", less frag clips thread.[/i][/spoiler]
You can search for ticks using this page: https://justpaste.it/5te4g
You can find demos here: http://demos.igmdb.org/
I hope this helps!
You can search for ticks using this page: https://justpaste.it/5te4g
You can find demos here: http://demos.igmdb.org/
I hope this helps!
this community doesn't deserve you Kevin. Hope you have a great New Year
this community doesn't deserve you Kevin. Hope you have a great New Year
Any chance the video could feature players who weren’t on the list but have more than proven themselves, such as artist? In his case, he a) is insanely good, and b) beat b4nny, which has to count for something. I get why Tery didn’t include him in the list, but still. Additionally, there are some other players that people have mentioned as being deserving of “top 100” consideration (mo0se, potentially rr, etc.) yet snubbed for whatever reason, and it would be cool to see them featured in some form as well, especially if the video will claim to feature frags from the 100 best NA TF2 players. (imo the easiest way to defend that claim is to include more than 100 players to ensure your bases are covered, but I see how that might not be financially or aesthetically appealing)
Either way, thanks in advance; looking forward to seeing the final product.
Any chance the video could feature players who weren’t on the list but have more than proven themselves, such as artist? In his case, he a) is insanely good, and b) beat b4nny, which has to count for something. I get why Tery didn’t include him in the list, but still. Additionally, there are some other players that people have mentioned as being deserving of “top 100” consideration (mo0se, potentially rr, etc.) yet snubbed for whatever reason, and it would be cool to see them featured in some form as well, especially if the video will claim to feature frags from the 100 best NA TF2 players. (imo the easiest way to defend that claim is to include more than 100 players to ensure your bases are covered, but I see how that might not be financially or aesthetically appealing)
Either way, thanks in advance; looking forward to seeing the final product.
minicircleAny chance the video could feature players who weren’t on the list but have more than proven themselves, such as artist?
by nature of "best of" lists, there will always be an n+1 person or a snub. this video will strictly feature the top 100 players as laid out by tery's article, unless there is a situation where there is no surviving footage of exceptional frags for the ancient players.
[quote=minicircle]Any chance the video could feature players who weren’t on the list but have more than proven themselves, such as artist?[/quote]
by nature of "best of" lists, there will always be an n+1 person or a snub. this video will strictly feature the top 100 players as laid out by tery's article, unless there is a situation where there is no surviving footage of exceptional frags for the ancient players.
This project sounds dope and definitely has me interested!
I do have some concerns about demos from older players being all broken or lost to time, it'd be hard to maintain a consistent stylized theme for a section if, for example, for one of the players the only surviving footage is a 720p fragvid they made in 2009, for example.
I don't know the exact details and timing but I do know that several updates in TF2's history have broken most/all demos from the past. Beater may be the best person to consult with on what is viable in that regard. I don't seem to see any demos from before ESEA S10 in the resources Beater linked above, for example.
This project sounds dope and definitely has me interested!
I do have some concerns about demos from older players being all broken or lost to time, it'd be hard to maintain a consistent stylized theme for a section if, for example, for one of the players the only surviving footage is a 720p fragvid they made in 2009, for example.
I don't know the exact details and timing but I do know that several updates in TF2's history have broken most/all demos from the past. Beater may be the best person to consult with on what is viable in that regard. I don't seem to see any demos from before ESEA S10 in the resources Beater linked above, for example.
Fairly sure the "beta" branch of tf2 does run old demos. Iirc that's specifically why it was opened up for people to use. Not sure if it will cover demos all the way back to like 2008 (if we can even find those) but it does work for 2012/2013 demos at very least.
Fairly sure the "beta" branch of tf2 does run old demos. Iirc that's specifically why it was opened up for people to use. Not sure if it will cover demos all the way back to like 2008 (if we can even find those) but it does work for 2012/2013 demos at very least.
ShearsI don't know the exact details and timing but I do know that several updates in TF2's history have broken most/all demos from the past. Beater may be the best person to consult with on what is viable in that regard. I don't seem to see any demos from before ESEA S10 in the resources Beater linked above, for example.
yeah, i feel we may have to substitute a few players if there's simply no footage. i'd like to avoid that if possible. there are clever workarounds were lowres footage exists; edits could include lower res footage with a throwback esthetic, etc.
the stakes are low, and the honorable mention list is deep. if we need to swap someone out we will ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[quote=Shears]I don't know the exact details and timing but I do know that several updates in TF2's history have broken most/all demos from the past. Beater may be the best person to consult with on what is viable in that regard. I don't seem to see any demos from before ESEA S10 in the resources Beater linked above, for example.[/quote]
yeah, i feel we may have to substitute a few players if there's simply no footage. i'd like to avoid that if possible. there are clever workarounds were lowres footage exists; edits could include lower res footage with a throwback esthetic, etc.
the stakes are low, and the honorable mention list is deep. if we need to swap someone out we will ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ShearsI don't seem to see any demos from before ESEA S10 in the resources Beater linked above, for example.
that's because he hadn't made seasonal frag videos before season 10 of ETF2L and ESEA.
I'm sure that if those demos exist most of them are still usable. (reverting to older versions of the game may help)
[quote=Shears]I don't seem to see any demos from before ESEA S10 in the resources Beater linked above, for example.[/quote]
that's because he hadn't made seasonal frag videos before season 10 of ETF2L and ESEA.
I'm sure that if those demos exist most of them are still usable. (reverting to older versions of the game may help)
I remember trying to help TheFragile make one of his old demos from like 2008 work, and no matter what I did it simply crashed the game whenever I tried to launch it, so there's definitely a point where some demos are simply too old to work with the current version of TF2.
Oh, and there might be a few demos older than season 10 hiding around in places, such as here but I'm not sure how useful that is in the grand scheme of things. I also suspect that demos from before season 8 just straight up don't work.
Also, CastingEssentials will make old demos crash now (it didn't used to) so that could cause some inconsistency with how some of the frags look compared to others.
I remember trying to help TheFragile make one of his old demos from like 2008 work, and no matter what I did it simply crashed the game whenever I tried to launch it, so there's definitely a point where some demos are simply too old to work with the current version of TF2.
Oh, and there might be a few demos older than season 10 hiding around in places, such as [url=http://demos.igmdb.org/Random%20TF2%20Demos/Ancient_history/]here[/url] but I'm not sure how useful that is in the grand scheme of things. I also suspect that demos from before season 8 just straight up don't work.
Also, CastingEssentials will make old demos crash now (it didn't used to) so that could cause some inconsistency with how some of the frags look compared to others.
SteamDB has an index of manifest IDs for tf2 dating as far back as a version from April 17th, 2013 that you should be able to download from steam still. I haven't tried it myself and I'm not sure if it would work for the old old demos, but it's perhaps worth a shot.
SteamDB has an index of manifest IDs for tf2 dating as far back as a version from April 17th, 2013 that you should be able to download from steam still. I haven't tried it myself and I'm not sure if it would work for the old old demos, but it's perhaps worth a shot.
bump - would love to get a few more applicants before making final decisions!
thanks!!
bump - would love to get a few more applicants before making final decisions!
thanks!!
To go off the previous replies, I remember that many years ago someone had to send subtitled and/or decap an older version of TF2 on a disc because an update came out in the middle of them making a video. It should still be possible, but may take a lot of effort.
To go off the previous replies, I remember that many years ago someone had to send subtitled and/or decap an older version of TF2 on a disc because an update came out in the middle of them making a video. It should still be possible, but may take a lot of effort.
It is probably possible to use demos of any age given enough effort. The only guy that knows enough about demo files to debug things would be pazer though.
It is probably possible to use demos of any age given enough effort. The only guy that knows enough about demo files to debug things would be pazer though.
sorry for multiple bumps--this is the last one for a while!
finalizing editor decisions this evening. apply asap if you want to help with the project!! :)
sorry for multiple bumps--this is the last one for a while!
finalizing editor decisions this evening. apply asap if you want to help with the project!! :)