Just go to the Corvallis Oregon School of Winter Driving!

Step 1: Rev to 5~6k

Step 2: Dump the clutch

Wrong again. D- on your driver score. You fail the test on snow and ice driving. I do driver training part time specifically for extreme winter conditions.

First wrong thing you said was you can put your car in reverse which is just a completely stupid and unsafe thing to do. By going in reverse you are making your wheels slide... You're causing a lack of control. Not only that there's a good chance you'll stall your engine. So now your out of control, your engine is dead, you're probably dead next. You can also destroy your transmission, have fun paying for that. Don't ever do that again it is just stupid. Don't tell me you learned it in parking lot either. You argue all you want, but highschool physics isn't going to help you. You really don't seem to know what your engine is actually doing.

Another wrong thing you said is nothing causing your wheels to rotate. Your engine is in gear and it is still pushing. If you begin sliding your foot is on throttle, it is a throttle induced slide. Your wheels are turning faster than their ability to grip the ground. When you take your foot off of the throttle your engine RPMS are going to slow down or speed up until the point where your wheels will turn. Once your wheels begin turning the RPMS of your engine will match that speed perfectly. IT PHYSICALLY CAN'T DO OTHERWISE! THE WHEELS DICTATE TO ENGINE NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND! You fucking around with the throttle "knowing your vehicle" is bullshit. Go on the highway with your car drop it into 2nd gear and take your foot off the throttle, watch the RPMS go up until they will stop when they match the wheels. You will get the jarring you talk about in this case because you are going highway speed and your engine will literally speed up by thousands of RPM. This is never the case in any slide, you wouldn't be sliding if there was enough friction for this to happen.

Let the engine find the RPM, it can do it better than any human ever could no matter how many parking lots you experiment in.

I guess I forgot to specify that reverse is only for low speeds, such as a stop sign that you are slowly sliding through (Note, already sliding, not causing one) I'd rather risk losing a transmission than a life in that case. That is my bad, and I will edit it. I would never put a vehicle into reverse on the highway. FYI my driving instructor was my primary resource on this one.

But you seem to not understand that I said to learn your vehicle so you can know when and where you might be able to do more than just let go and give up. Not every situatiom is rectifiable by using the throttle, but sometimes it can be. Know your vehicle so that you can at least have some sort of advantage when it comes to losing control.

Please recall the context:

I was basically saying that you need to understand the cause of the slide, and the appropriate response. Also, controlling the throttle doesn't mean to always apply it, it means to know what needs to be done with it. Letting off until control is regained on throttle induced slides, or potentially adding a bit on braking induced slides.

Now let's just stop beating this horse, I know you have a fair understanding of what you are talking about, and I have more than you seem to want to think. But being tired makes it even more difficult for me to communicate my thoughts than it usually is.

this is probably how casuals feel when i argue about dota shit on reddit

i wonder whos right

flynn_ is RRP is

You Canadians and your reasoned debate

Sorry

Your instructor is dumb. Putting your transmission in reverse is a bad idea plain in simple because you are making sliding wheels slide more. That is exactly what you do not want to do. Stalling your motor is not what you want to do, the idea is just careless he should never have told you that.

Letting go and giving up? Where did I say give up? I wrote the procedure to get your wheels rolling to regain control and then slow down to a stop or continue on. The advantage you are talking about could get somebody into an accident you should just stop telling people to do that... That's the only reason I care enough to actually respond.

I think this is a real thing, my dad did it all the time during the winter for his 1988 Grand Marquee (ugh): if you have rear wheel drive, load up your trunk with a lot of weight to try and give your rear wheels more traction.

ITT: Canadians taking snow too seriously.

- winter/snow tires.
- extended safe distances
- reserve roughly double distance to slow down
- in case of oversteer;
- fwd & 4wd: counter steer & keep on/apply more gas
- rwd: counter steer & let go of gas
- in case of understeer;
- let go of gas & keep on turning
- e-brake can save your and someone elses ass if you know how to use it
- don't be scared, have fun with your car in more or less open spaces to learn how it reacts.
(optional) have even more fun, drift every turn you make. fwd is no excuse.

yo snow is some serious shit when its fucking everywhere