my team is paying up but those numbers with 5 hours left is practically impossible.

you're fucking retarded holy shit, ESEA had lan before tf2 was even in it and that was over 15 seasons ago, tf2 didn't make its lan debut till season 4 in ESEA. it's not like TF2 is hemorrhaging money from ESEA if that was the case they would of dropped the game a long time ago. the money in ESEA isn't solely depended on league fees and premium, believe it or not there are a handful of financial factors that come into play when running a company..crazy i know !

Is there any chance for an extension? My team is getting together to pay and all but I don't see any more teams getting signed up..

Believe

THE ONE SEASON THERE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE AN EXTENSION AND PEOPLE START ASKING FOR IT

killing you mastermind

Where else is TF2 generating revenue for ESEA? It sure as hell isn't from sponsors

my team (justplay 6s) is alive and we will pay if extended but as of right now we cant get all 6 paid

this will be a good season of invite. the matches/lan will be sick. i'm open to mentor any open teams that pay up today yaoooo. ADD ME ON STEAM.

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they dont

Even a 1 week extension would help greatly Shooter. Please make it happen. Our main team will pay up asap.

wood pig is getting 6 paid up tonight

maybe a miracle happen all we have to do is believe

We all believe :)

You think it would bring the number of teams to the goal?

I know of at least one team that would pay up if they had a week to get a demo.

Yes, extend.

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The strategy of telling players to pay up or lose the league has not worked.
There was already a week to join and pay up, and very few did. Mostly because people were very skeptical as to whether ESEA would exist.

The solution is simple:
Promise a season!
Tell the community that NEXT season's existence is contingent upon THIS season's participation
Cut the prize pot so you can afford it (people are not playing for the money!)
Keep the Lan
THEN Extend the deadline

After that, keep an OPEN dialogue with the community and work to regain their trust.
I'm not saying you don't deserve their trust, or that you are untrustworthy. I'm saying there is a segment of the community that does not trust you. It doesn't matter if it's right or wrong; it simply is. Win it back.

That, in my opinion, is how ESEA survives.

Can't promise a season when ESEA only has ~5 teams fully paid in total (see previous posts).
I outlined the # of teams for each division previously to have 4 divisions.
Why cutting the prize pot?
LAN will always happen as long as TF2 has an Invite division.

I'm always open to discussion, and can be reached on ESEA pretty quickly :)

I think the cutting of the prize pot suggestion is so less teams would be needed to register than outlined? That's at least how I understood it.

I agree with keeping 4 divisions since this season would be really competitive, but if cutting a division or 2 would confirm a season I think most would be ok with it.

The reason you don't have teams paid is because you haven't promised a season. I understand that you have offered refunds, but the community has shown that it is hesitant to commit to less than a sure thing. So, if you want to keep TF2 in ESEA, you should promise a season. Now, I understand that this might not seem like a financially prudent decision with the way things are now, which is why...

So cut the divisions! People are saying they're willing to compromise on division count, on prize pot, on everything BUT having a league. The people want a league. The people don't NEED an IM and a Main.

In order to make it affordable for your business! Nobody WANTS to cut the prize pot, but it's the (far) lesser of two evils. If given a choice between a season in ESEA with a lousy prize pot and no more seasons in ESEA, I think everyone in the community would agree that they'll take the smaller prize pot. This is a suggestion to help make it less detrimental to your business in order to keep the eSport. If you wanted, you could say something like "the prize pot for s16 of ESEA will be determined based on the number of participants." This way, you can hold a league whether or not you're shelling out so that you do not break the bank.

Wonderful.

OH OH OH! I GOT IT
Let's level the playing field.
That was one of the things people in CEVO liked right?
No divisions. Just open.

Technically, that would steepen the playing field.

ESEA really wants to have 4 divisions, it's the best format, most balanced as well. Teams worked really hard to have an established format of different skills, let's try to make it happen!

Don't forget about the Open promotion Killing posted about. 2 X 3 months, and 2 X 1 month of Premium for each Open teams!

Let's play a drinking game.

Take a shot every time you read a pro-ESEA post from a player who has a team playing in ESEA this season but hasn't paid his/her league fees yet.

Seriously, the amount is staggering. Not trying to shit on anyone (personally I think ESEA is the better option for competitive NA TF2 regardless) but pay your fucking league fees you nerds. It's almost like these threads have been up for weeks and that the worst that can happen is you getting your money back. It's actually disgusting how valiantly some people will post about saving their beloved league while still failing to get paid up in time with weeks of notice in advance.

Pay up.

I'm honestly baffled.

We agreed that ESEA can't support the size of the TF2 division the way it is.

ESEA reps have - on multiple occasions - told us that TF2 will be dropped if we can't reach a critical mass.

Myself and others presented alternatives that allow us to decrease the cost to maintain TF2 in such an event that it cannot reach its critical mass - such as [b]right now[/b]

At which point you counter that you're happy with the way things are now.

This isn't the first time this strange lack of compromise has happened.
When I suggested that Killing decrease the prize pot, he responded the same way:

Yes. People agree with you. 4 Divisions is better. A big prize pot is better. But it's not working right this minute. Why not consider a middle alternative, halfway between giant league and no league?

ESEA is looking into having MAYBE 3 divisions only, but I think 2 is a really far step back :X

I 100% agree with you. 2 is a pretty big step back, and should be avoided if at all possible.

But 0 is an even bigger step back. And should be avoided at all costs

I am gonna give you alcohol poisoning. #earlyfirstshiftjobontheeastcoast