I am looking into building my own pc over this summer, and I was wondering whether to get a 660 or a 760. Ill mainly be playing TF2, CS:GO, league, Titanfall, and a little streaming (if that matters). Just looking for input as I am inexperienced in the area.
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I am looking into building my own pc over this summer, and I was wondering whether to get a 660 or a 760. Ill mainly be playing TF2, CS:GO, league, Titanfall, and a little streaming (if that matters). Just looking for input as I am inexperienced in the area.
when looking at a graphics card you should post a link to each since gpu comparison depends on several parameters..
tl:dr we need more info
when looking at a graphics card you should post a link to each since gpu comparison depends on several parameters..
tl:dr we need more info
tl:dr we need more info
Just look for benchmarks of both graphics cards. You should also decide on a manufacturer.
Just look for benchmarks of both graphics cards. You should also decide on a manufacturer.
660:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn760oc2gdrev20
760:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn760oc2gdrev20
LarvalExtract760 is much better than the 660
I know that, but I'm trying to shave off some money that I have in my current build if I could.
660:
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-02gp42662kr]http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn760oc2gdrev20[/url]
760:
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn760oc2gdrev20]http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn760oc2gdrev20[/url]
[quote=LarvalExtract]760 is much better than the 660[/quote]
I know that, but I'm trying to shave off some money that I have in my current build if I could.
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-02gp42662kr]http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn760oc2gdrev20[/url]
760:
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn760oc2gdrev20]http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn760oc2gdrev20[/url]
[quote=LarvalExtract]760 is much better than the 660[/quote]
I know that, but I'm trying to shave off some money that I have in my current build if I could.
MrYokeJust look for benchmarks of both graphics cards. You should also decide on a manufacturer.
I'm mainly just looking for advice, because when it comes to stuff like benchmarking, and telling exactly what that means, it is completely out of my league.
[quote=MrYoke]Just look for benchmarks of both graphics cards. You should also decide on a manufacturer.[/quote]
I'm mainly just looking for advice, because when it comes to stuff like benchmarking, and telling exactly what that means, it is completely out of my league.
I'm mainly just looking for advice, because when it comes to stuff like benchmarking, and telling exactly what that means, it is completely out of my league.
Get the 760 if at all possible, plus since it comes with a free game, it makes up for the price difference anyways
Get the 760 if at all possible, plus since it comes with a free game, it makes up for the price difference anyways
if your budget is pretty tight, i would try and shave the total price a little by cutting back on other stuff i.e. a cheaper case, cheaper RAM or even a slightly different motherboard. the 760 is a bit more than the 660 but the price difference is definitely worth it. you're better off finding a way to afford the extra money on a 760, even if it takes a little longer, than settle for a 660
if your budget is pretty tight, i would try and shave the total price a little by cutting back on other stuff i.e. a cheaper case, cheaper RAM or even a slightly different motherboard. the 760 is a bit more than the 660 but the price difference is definitely worth it. you're better off finding a way to afford the extra money on a 760, even if it takes a little longer, than settle for a 660
FayngMrYokeJust look for benchmarks of both graphics cards. You should also decide on a manufacturer.I'm mainly just looking for advice, because when it comes to stuff like benchmarking, and telling exactly what that means, it is completely out of my league.
Reading benchmarks is pretty straightforward. Try to look for specific games if you can. For example, http://www.gamersnexus.net/gg/1352-titanfall-pc-gpu-benchmark-full-version
Graphs pretty much tell exactly what you need to know. Most of the time it's in average fps. Higher the number, the better the card. If you can find specific benchmarks like these, they'll help you more than if you found maybe the 3dmark 11 benchmarks, but those are pretty straightforward too.
In general, higher number = better performance. Unless it's temperature. But you don't really need to worry too much about that.
Also at the end of the day, it's your decision whether or not you want the extra performance the 760 gives over the 660. If you do your research and you find that you're ok with having the 660 performance, then save money and buy that card or use that extra money to get a slightly better other part.
[quote=Fayng][quote=MrYoke]Just look for benchmarks of both graphics cards. You should also decide on a manufacturer.[/quote]
I'm mainly just looking for advice, because when it comes to stuff like benchmarking, and telling exactly what that means, it is completely out of my league.[/quote]
Reading benchmarks is pretty straightforward. Try to look for specific games if you can. For example, http://www.gamersnexus.net/gg/1352-titanfall-pc-gpu-benchmark-full-version
Graphs pretty much tell exactly what you need to know. Most of the time it's in average fps. Higher the number, the better the card. If you can find specific benchmarks like these, they'll help you more than if you found maybe the 3dmark 11 benchmarks, but those are pretty straightforward too.
In general, higher number = better performance. Unless it's temperature. But you don't really need to worry too much about that.
Also at the end of the day, it's your decision whether or not you want the extra performance the 760 gives over the 660. If you do your research and you find that you're ok with having the 660 performance, then save money and buy that card or use that extra money to get a slightly better other part.
I'm mainly just looking for advice, because when it comes to stuff like benchmarking, and telling exactly what that means, it is completely out of my league.[/quote]
Reading benchmarks is pretty straightforward. Try to look for specific games if you can. For example, http://www.gamersnexus.net/gg/1352-titanfall-pc-gpu-benchmark-full-version
Graphs pretty much tell exactly what you need to know. Most of the time it's in average fps. Higher the number, the better the card. If you can find specific benchmarks like these, they'll help you more than if you found maybe the 3dmark 11 benchmarks, but those are pretty straightforward too.
In general, higher number = better performance. Unless it's temperature. But you don't really need to worry too much about that.
Also at the end of the day, it's your decision whether or not you want the extra performance the 760 gives over the 660. If you do your research and you find that you're ok with having the 660 performance, then save money and buy that card or use that extra money to get a slightly better other part.
Alright this is what I have for my build. Tell me what you think.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3IUGq
Alright this is what I have for my build. Tell me what you think.
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3IUGq]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3IUGq[/url]
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3IUGq]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3IUGq[/url]
Questions:
Do your really need an optical drive?
Is there an copy of windows you can reuse from another computer?
The power supply is cheap, but 600w is a bit too much especially for the haswell line since they use little power.
Why 2 average monitors? why not combine that prize and get a 120fps one? (unless you already have one)
Questions:
Do your really need an optical drive?
Is there an copy of windows you can reuse from another computer?
The power supply is cheap, but 600w is a bit too much especially for the haswell line since they use little power.
Why 2 average monitors? why not combine that prize and get a 120fps one? (unless you already have one)
Do your really need an optical drive?
Is there an copy of windows you can reuse from another computer?
The power supply is cheap, but 600w is a bit too much especially for the haswell line since they use little power.
Why 2 average monitors? why not combine that prize and get a 120fps one? (unless you already have one)
I think the better question would be why you need such an expensive optical drive. Are you really planning on watching blu ray movies on it? If not then you should really just cut $40 and buy a cheaper $20 version. I only used mine to install drivers.
Also a pretty big thing to note, you're going to have a tough time getting that much back in mail in rebates. It takes a long ass time to do and I've heard that a lot of times you don't get them. I didn't do them because I would have only save $20 ish and I didn't feel like going through the effort.
I think the better question would be why you need such an expensive optical drive. Are you really planning on watching blu ray movies on it? If not then you should really just cut $40 and buy a cheaper $20 version. I only used mine to install drivers.
Also a pretty big thing to note, you're going to have a tough time getting that much back in mail in rebates. It takes a long ass time to do and I've heard that a lot of times you don't get them. I didn't do them because I would have only save $20 ish and I didn't feel like going through the effort.
Also a pretty big thing to note, you're going to have a tough time getting that much back in mail in rebates. It takes a long ass time to do and I've heard that a lot of times you don't get them. I didn't do them because I would have only save $20 ish and I didn't feel like going through the effort.
rQwireDo your really need an optical drive?
I'd like to watch some movies on my PC, but I guess it doesn't need to be blue ray
rQwireIs there an copy of windows you can reuse from another computer?
Why 2 average monitors? why not combine that prize and get a 120fps one? (unless you already have one)
First question: This is my first build, I wish I did have one but sadly I do not.
Second: I didn't think they were average, but I don't really know much. I also want to start streaming once I build it, so that's why. What would you recommend for monitors?
[quote=rQwire]Do your really need an optical drive?[/quote]
I'd like to watch some movies on my PC, but I guess it doesn't need to be blue ray
[quote=rQwire]Is there an copy of windows you can reuse from another computer?
Why 2 average monitors? why not combine that prize and get a 120fps one? (unless you already have one)[/quote]
First question: This is my first build, I wish I did have one but sadly I do not.
Second: I didn't think they were average, but I don't really know much. I also want to start streaming once I build it, so that's why. What would you recommend for monitors?
I'd like to watch some movies on my PC, but I guess it doesn't need to be blue ray
[quote=rQwire]Is there an copy of windows you can reuse from another computer?
Why 2 average monitors? why not combine that prize and get a 120fps one? (unless you already have one)[/quote]
First question: This is my first build, I wish I did have one but sadly I do not.
Second: I didn't think they were average, but I don't really know much. I also want to start streaming once I build it, so that's why. What would you recommend for monitors?
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vg248qe
The one most people here have, myself included, has decent but not great colours, pretty good for the price.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/benq-monitor-xl2420z
Similar, ok price,ok colours, nothing really special. Depends on what kind of deals you can find.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/benq-monitor-xl2420te
This is the king of 120fps+ monitors right now with great colours and viewing angle, also a lot more expensive than the rest.
I'm going to assume you already have another monitor for a 2nd monitor.
A good monitor is one of the best investment for a PC build, and can easily last 10 years if you pick the right one. The ones I recommended are "gaming" monitors with high frames and refresh rates, but you have to decide if these 2 thing are important to you. There are gamers out there who stick with 60fps monitors and go for colours instead. Do more research and think carefully about your needs.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vg248qe
The one most people here have, myself included, has decent but not great colours, pretty good for the price.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/benq-monitor-xl2420z
Similar, ok price,ok colours, nothing really special. Depends on what kind of deals you can find.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/benq-monitor-xl2420te
This is the king of 120fps+ monitors right now with great colours and viewing angle, also a lot more expensive than the rest.
I'm going to assume you already have another monitor for a 2nd monitor.
A good monitor is one of the best investment for a PC build, and can easily last 10 years if you pick the right one. The ones I recommended are "gaming" monitors with high frames and refresh rates, but you have to decide if these 2 thing are important to you. There are gamers out there who stick with 60fps monitors and go for colours instead. Do more research and think carefully about your needs.
The one most people here have, myself included, has decent but not great colours, pretty good for the price.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/benq-monitor-xl2420z
Similar, ok price,ok colours, nothing really special. Depends on what kind of deals you can find.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/benq-monitor-xl2420te
This is the king of 120fps+ monitors right now with great colours and viewing angle, also a lot more expensive than the rest.
I'm going to assume you already have another monitor for a 2nd monitor.
A good monitor is one of the best investment for a PC build, and can easily last 10 years if you pick the right one. The ones I recommended are "gaming" monitors with high frames and refresh rates, but you have to decide if these 2 thing are important to you. There are gamers out there who stick with 60fps monitors and go for colours instead. Do more research and think carefully about your needs.
FayngAlright this is what I have for my build. Tell me what you think.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3IUGq
You can get Windows for less than $20 at /r/softwareswap
[quote=Fayng]Alright this is what I have for my build. Tell me what you think.
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3IUGq]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3IUGq[/url][/quote]
You can get Windows for less than $20 at /r/softwareswap
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3IUGq]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3IUGq[/url][/quote]
You can get Windows for less than $20 at /r/softwareswap
rQwirehttp://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vg248qe
The one most people here have, myself included, has decent but not great colours, pretty good for the price.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/benq-monitor-xl2420z
Similar, ok price,ok colours, nothing really special. Depends on what kind of deals you can find.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/benq-monitor-xl2420te
This is the king of 120fps+ monitors right now with great colours and viewing angle, also a lot more expensive than the rest.
I'm going to assume you already have another monitor for a 2nd monitor.
A good monitor is one of the best investment for a PC build, and can easily last 10 years if you pick the right one. The ones I recommended are "gaming" monitors with high frames and refresh rates, but you have to decide if these 2 thing are important to you. There are gamers out there who stick with 60fps monitors and go for colours instead. Do more research and think carefully about your needs.
Well I want to main scout, would 120 hz be better for me? And also, I believe I have a second monitor, but I might use it for watching T.V. But I could use it for viewing chat I guess.
[quote=rQwire]http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vg248qe
The one most people here have, myself included, has decent but not great colours, pretty good for the price.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/benq-monitor-xl2420z
Similar, ok price,ok colours, nothing really special. Depends on what kind of deals you can find.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/benq-monitor-xl2420te
This is the king of 120fps+ monitors right now with great colours and viewing angle, also a lot more expensive than the rest.
I'm going to assume you already have another monitor for a 2nd monitor.
A good monitor is one of the best investment for a PC build, and can easily last 10 years if you pick the right one. The ones I recommended are "gaming" monitors with high frames and refresh rates, but you have to decide if these 2 thing are important to you. There are gamers out there who stick with 60fps monitors and go for colours instead. Do more research and think carefully about your needs.[/quote]
Well I want to main scout, would 120 hz be better for me? And also, I believe I have a second monitor, but I might use it for watching T.V. But I could use it for viewing chat I guess.
The one most people here have, myself included, has decent but not great colours, pretty good for the price.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/benq-monitor-xl2420z
Similar, ok price,ok colours, nothing really special. Depends on what kind of deals you can find.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/benq-monitor-xl2420te
This is the king of 120fps+ monitors right now with great colours and viewing angle, also a lot more expensive than the rest.
I'm going to assume you already have another monitor for a 2nd monitor.
A good monitor is one of the best investment for a PC build, and can easily last 10 years if you pick the right one. The ones I recommended are "gaming" monitors with high frames and refresh rates, but you have to decide if these 2 thing are important to you. There are gamers out there who stick with 60fps monitors and go for colours instead. Do more research and think carefully about your needs.[/quote]
Well I want to main scout, would 120 hz be better for me? And also, I believe I have a second monitor, but I might use it for watching T.V. But I could use it for viewing chat I guess.
FayngAlright this is what I have for my build. Tell me what you think.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3IUGq
Do you plan on overclocking at all? If so, you should look into another PSU...
When you get around 650w+ having multiple rails can provide an extra layer of protection which is great especially if you're going to OC.
Check this recommended guide out!
http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/faq-recommended-power-supplies
[quote=Fayng]Alright this is what I have for my build. Tell me what you think.
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3IUGq]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3IUGq[/url][/quote]
Do you plan on overclocking at all? If so, you should look into another PSU...
When you get around 650w+ having multiple rails can provide an extra layer of protection which is great especially if you're going to OC.
Check this recommended guide out!
http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/faq-recommended-power-supplies
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3IUGq]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3IUGq[/url][/quote]
Do you plan on overclocking at all? If so, you should look into another PSU...
When you get around 650w+ having multiple rails can provide an extra layer of protection which is great especially if you're going to OC.
Check this recommended guide out!
http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/faq-recommended-power-supplies
I have almost the same build as you lol, I would go for a diff pair of headphones tho. the g35's do not have the best positional audio for cs and a pretty bad mic.
DhdmasterFayngAlright this is what I have for my build. Tell me what you think.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3IUGq
Do you plan on overclocking at all? If so, you should look into another PSU...
When you get around 650w+ having multiple rails can provide an extra layer of protection which is great especially if you're going to OC.
Check this recommended guide out!
http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/faq-recommended-power-supplies
600w psu is more than enough...
I have almost the same build as you lol, I would go for a diff pair of headphones tho. the g35's do not have the best positional audio for cs and a pretty bad mic.
[quote=Dhdmaster][quote=Fayng]Alright this is what I have for my build. Tell me what you think.
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3IUGq]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3IUGq[/url][/quote]
Do you plan on overclocking at all? If so, you should look into another PSU...
When you get around 650w+ having multiple rails can provide an extra layer of protection which is great especially if you're going to OC.
Check this recommended guide out!
http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/faq-recommended-power-supplies[/quote]
600w psu is more than enough...
[quote=Dhdmaster][quote=Fayng]Alright this is what I have for my build. Tell me what you think.
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3IUGq]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3IUGq[/url][/quote]
Do you plan on overclocking at all? If so, you should look into another PSU...
When you get around 650w+ having multiple rails can provide an extra layer of protection which is great especially if you're going to OC.
Check this recommended guide out!
http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/faq-recommended-power-supplies[/quote]
600w psu is more than enough...
600w psu is more than enough...
Yeah I know but I'm talking about the quality...
[quote]600w psu is more than enough...[/quote]
Yeah I know but I'm talking about the quality...
Yeah I know but I'm talking about the quality...
#19
Getting a bigger PSU to get multi-rail defeats the purpose of multi-rail.
Also please tell me you aren't serious about 650W+ for a GTX 760 and an i5-4670K. Overclocked pretty hard the power consumption for those would be 200W and 150W.
#10
Take a look at the Benq XL2411Z.
Just get decent cheap DVD drive (e.g. Lite-on iHAS124).
There are lots of other good cases for the same price or cheaper.
You could get a better and also more efficient PSU if you are willing to spend a bit more on it.
For the love of god, get headphones and a mic, not a headset.
#19
Getting a bigger PSU to get multi-rail defeats the purpose of multi-rail.
Also please tell me you aren't serious about 650W+ for a GTX 760 and an i5-4670K. Overclocked pretty hard the power consumption for those would be 200W and 150W.
#10
Take a look at the Benq XL2411Z.
Just get decent cheap DVD drive (e.g. Lite-on iHAS124).
There are lots of other good cases for the same price or cheaper.
You could get a better and also more efficient PSU if you are willing to spend a bit more on it.
For the love of god, get headphones and a mic, not a headset.
Getting a bigger PSU to get multi-rail defeats the purpose of multi-rail.
Also please tell me you aren't serious about 650W+ for a GTX 760 and an i5-4670K. Overclocked pretty hard the power consumption for those would be 200W and 150W.
#10
Take a look at the Benq XL2411Z.
Just get decent cheap DVD drive (e.g. Lite-on iHAS124).
There are lots of other good cases for the same price or cheaper.
You could get a better and also more efficient PSU if you are willing to spend a bit more on it.
For the love of god, get headphones and a mic, not a headset.
If you are not planning on OC:
CPU: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54570
Mainboard: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-b85pro4
As for the PSU, take the be quiet! Straight Power E9-CM 480W. I would also invest in a SSD
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct120m500ssd1. And like Setsul said, get headphones and a clipmic. Other than that your build is fine.
If you are not planning on OC:
CPU: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54570
Mainboard: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-b85pro4
As for the PSU, take the be quiet! Straight Power E9-CM 480W. I would also invest in a SSD
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct120m500ssd1. And like Setsul said, get headphones and a clipmic. Other than that your build is fine.
CPU: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54570
Mainboard: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-b85pro4
As for the PSU, take the be quiet! Straight Power E9-CM 480W. I would also invest in a SSD
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct120m500ssd1. And like Setsul said, get headphones and a clipmic. Other than that your build is fine.
Platypus helped me with a build that worked out perfectly.
I upgraded from a:
AMD Athlon II X4 3.0GHz Quad Core - ATI Radeon 57701GB - 6GB DDR2 - 550W PSU - 500GB 7200RPM HDD
(Was up and down frames wise for TF2 on low settings, other games on low)
To a:
Intel i5 3.2GHz Quad Core - GeForce GTX 7702GB - 8GB DDR3 - 650W PSU - 256GB SSD - 1TB 7200RPM HDD
(Maxes out on every single game without any drop in performance)
The difference is astronomical. Everything is much faster and the most important difference to me at least was getting the SSD. In the end with tax and all it ran me a pretty penny of almost $1400 but it was well worth it. Now I won't need to upgrade for a few years and it's a solid build. You should go for the 770 if it's only like $70 more. The case should just be something easy to use build wise. I went with a Corsair 400R? The PSU I got was probably not necessary but I can re-use it in the future since it was a quality one. You won't need the after market HSF most likely as everyone says the stock intel ones are good. Everyone I spoke to told me the i7's performance over the i5 was negligible and wasn't worth the extra $100. In the future though if I need to upgrade that it shouldn't be too difficult to do so which is what I wanted. A base that I can work with which is important.
This is the full build platypus put together for me: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3yz0v
I had to change a few minor things because I drove straight to microcenter and bought everything in person so I didn't have to wait (changed minor stuff depending on what they had in stock, just the case rly) then I stopped by solidsnakes house on the way home to get help putting it together. I changed the case, added an optical drive (make sure they send you the L sata cable bc mine didn't come with one from microcenter for the $16.99 LG one, came in a clear plastic baggy with no box and no cable), and I also had to buy another Windows 7 Home OEM bc I can't be bothered with pirating it i'd rather just spend the $100 just in case anything ever happens it's easier to deal with. I'll give my old copy to my fiancee along with my old computer.
After a few weeks of having it now the only things I might consider doing on my new rig is adding another 8gb of ram and possibly getting a bulky HSF if I want to try and overclock which I think I should be able to achieve with the right guidance because I admit I have no idea how to do it and it scares the shit out of me when your screen crashes after trying lol.. The processor is incredibly fast though on its own so I don't know if overclocking is really necessary.
Edit: As far as monitors go, I bought a BenQ XL2420T 120Hz 24" LED about a year ago and my old computer really didn't show its potential. After getting my new pc up and running you can see a big difference in the 120Hz side of things. It's probably the best gaming monitor you can grab and I bought a refurbished one for about $360 at the time I believe and haven't had any issues. It's a solid piece. I also have the CM QuickFire Storm Cherry small keyboard and I love it although my teammates complain it's a bit loud on mumble.
Anyways, hope this helps.
Platypus helped me with a build that worked out perfectly.
I upgraded from a:
AMD Athlon II X4 3.0GHz Quad Core - ATI Radeon 57701GB - 6GB DDR2 - 550W PSU - 500GB 7200RPM HDD
(Was up and down frames wise for TF2 on low settings, other games on low)
To a:
Intel i5 3.2GHz Quad Core - GeForce GTX 7702GB - 8GB DDR3 - 650W PSU - 256GB SSD - 1TB 7200RPM HDD
(Maxes out on every single game without any drop in performance)
The difference is astronomical. Everything is much faster and the most important difference to me at least was getting the SSD. In the end with tax and all it ran me a pretty penny of almost $1400 but it was well worth it. Now I won't need to upgrade for a few years and it's a solid build. You should go for the 770 if it's only like $70 more. The case should just be something easy to use build wise. I went with a Corsair 400R? The PSU I got was probably not necessary but I can re-use it in the future since it was a quality one. You won't need the after market HSF most likely as everyone says the stock intel ones are good. Everyone I spoke to told me the i7's performance over the i5 was negligible and wasn't worth the extra $100. In the future though if I need to upgrade that it shouldn't be too difficult to do so which is what I wanted. A base that I can work with which is important.
This is the full build platypus put together for me: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3yz0v
I had to change a few minor things because I drove straight to microcenter and bought everything in person so I didn't have to wait (changed minor stuff depending on what they had in stock, just the case rly) then I stopped by solidsnakes house on the way home to get help putting it together. I changed the case, added an optical drive (make sure they send you the L sata cable bc mine didn't come with one from microcenter for the $16.99 LG one, came in a clear plastic baggy with no box and no cable), and I also had to buy another Windows 7 Home OEM bc I can't be bothered with pirating it i'd rather just spend the $100 just in case anything ever happens it's easier to deal with. I'll give my old copy to my fiancee along with my old computer.
After a few weeks of having it now the only things I might consider doing on my new rig is adding another 8gb of ram and possibly getting a bulky HSF if I want to try and overclock which I think I should be able to achieve with the right guidance because I admit I have no idea how to do it and it scares the shit out of me when your screen crashes after trying lol.. The processor is incredibly fast though on its own so I don't know if overclocking is really necessary.
Edit: As far as monitors go, I bought a BenQ XL2420T 120Hz 24" LED about a year ago and my old computer really didn't show its potential. After getting my new pc up and running you can see a big difference in the 120Hz side of things. It's probably the best gaming monitor you can grab and I bought a refurbished one for about $360 at the time I believe and haven't had any issues. It's a solid piece. I also have the CM QuickFire Storm Cherry small keyboard and I love it although my teammates complain it's a bit loud on mumble.
Anyways, hope this helps.
I upgraded from a:
AMD Athlon II X4 3.0GHz Quad Core - ATI Radeon 57701GB - 6GB DDR2 - 550W PSU - 500GB 7200RPM HDD
(Was up and down frames wise for TF2 on low settings, other games on low)
To a:
Intel i5 3.2GHz Quad Core - GeForce GTX 7702GB - 8GB DDR3 - 650W PSU - 256GB SSD - 1TB 7200RPM HDD
(Maxes out on every single game without any drop in performance)
The difference is astronomical. Everything is much faster and the most important difference to me at least was getting the SSD. In the end with tax and all it ran me a pretty penny of almost $1400 but it was well worth it. Now I won't need to upgrade for a few years and it's a solid build. You should go for the 770 if it's only like $70 more. The case should just be something easy to use build wise. I went with a Corsair 400R? The PSU I got was probably not necessary but I can re-use it in the future since it was a quality one. You won't need the after market HSF most likely as everyone says the stock intel ones are good. Everyone I spoke to told me the i7's performance over the i5 was negligible and wasn't worth the extra $100. In the future though if I need to upgrade that it shouldn't be too difficult to do so which is what I wanted. A base that I can work with which is important.
This is the full build platypus put together for me: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3yz0v
I had to change a few minor things because I drove straight to microcenter and bought everything in person so I didn't have to wait (changed minor stuff depending on what they had in stock, just the case rly) then I stopped by solidsnakes house on the way home to get help putting it together. I changed the case, added an optical drive (make sure they send you the L sata cable bc mine didn't come with one from microcenter for the $16.99 LG one, came in a clear plastic baggy with no box and no cable), and I also had to buy another Windows 7 Home OEM bc I can't be bothered with pirating it i'd rather just spend the $100 just in case anything ever happens it's easier to deal with. I'll give my old copy to my fiancee along with my old computer.
After a few weeks of having it now the only things I might consider doing on my new rig is adding another 8gb of ram and possibly getting a bulky HSF if I want to try and overclock which I think I should be able to achieve with the right guidance because I admit I have no idea how to do it and it scares the shit out of me when your screen crashes after trying lol.. The processor is incredibly fast though on its own so I don't know if overclocking is really necessary.
Edit: As far as monitors go, I bought a BenQ XL2420T 120Hz 24" LED about a year ago and my old computer really didn't show its potential. After getting my new pc up and running you can see a big difference in the 120Hz side of things. It's probably the best gaming monitor you can grab and I bought a refurbished one for about $360 at the time I believe and haven't had any issues. It's a solid piece. I also have the CM QuickFire Storm Cherry small keyboard and I love it although my teammates complain it's a bit loud on mumble.
Anyways, hope this helps.
I did this to make it easier to see and for me to print out with the serial and model #'s in case anything ever happens.
Nick's Gaming Build from April 2014
CPU: - Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($196.98)
Motherboard: - Gigabyte GA-B85-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.69)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99)
Storage #1: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.99)
Storage #2: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.43)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB ACX Video Card ($329.99)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 400R Graphite Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99)
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX PSU ($84.99)
Optical: LG Internal Super Multi Drive 24X CD-RW/DVD-RW Model GH24NSB0 ($19.99)
OS: Windows 7 Home OEM Edition ($109.99)
Monitor: BenQ XL2420T 24" LED 120Hz ($349.99)
Keyboard: CM Storm QuickFire Rapid - Compact Mechanical CHERRY MX Red ($89.99)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Ergonomic 6400DPI Infared ($59.99)
Mouse Pad: Razer Kabuto ($16.99)
Head Set: Logitech G35 USB 2.0 Connector Surround Sound Headset ($99.99)
Total Price: $1,797.98 (Before Taxes)
This is what Platypus and I came up with and it's a solid build that I was slowly putting together over the course of a year or so. Got the monitor and peripherals first then the tower last.
I did this to make it easier to see and for me to print out with the serial and model #'s in case anything ever happens.
Nick's Gaming Build from April 2014
CPU: - Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($196.98)
Motherboard: - Gigabyte GA-B85-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.69)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99)
Storage #1: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.99)
Storage #2: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.43)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB ACX Video Card ($329.99)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 400R Graphite Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99)
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX PSU ($84.99)
Optical: LG Internal Super Multi Drive 24X CD-RW/DVD-RW Model GH24NSB0 ($19.99)
OS: Windows 7 Home OEM Edition ($109.99)
Monitor: BenQ XL2420T 24" LED 120Hz ($349.99)
Keyboard: CM Storm QuickFire Rapid - Compact Mechanical CHERRY MX Red ($89.99)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Ergonomic 6400DPI Infared ($59.99)
Mouse Pad: Razer Kabuto ($16.99)
Head Set: Logitech G35 USB 2.0 Connector Surround Sound Headset ($99.99)
Total Price: $1,797.98 (Before Taxes)
This is what Platypus and I came up with and it's a solid build that I was slowly putting together over the course of a year or so. Got the monitor and peripherals first then the tower last.
Nick's Gaming Build from April 2014
CPU: - Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($196.98)
Motherboard: - Gigabyte GA-B85-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.69)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99)
Storage #1: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.99)
Storage #2: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.43)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB ACX Video Card ($329.99)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 400R Graphite Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99)
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX PSU ($84.99)
Optical: LG Internal Super Multi Drive 24X CD-RW/DVD-RW Model GH24NSB0 ($19.99)
OS: Windows 7 Home OEM Edition ($109.99)
Monitor: BenQ XL2420T 24" LED 120Hz ($349.99)
Keyboard: CM Storm QuickFire Rapid - Compact Mechanical CHERRY MX Red ($89.99)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Ergonomic 6400DPI Infared ($59.99)
Mouse Pad: Razer Kabuto ($16.99)
Head Set: Logitech G35 USB 2.0 Connector Surround Sound Headset ($99.99)
Total Price: $1,797.98 (Before Taxes)
This is what Platypus and I came up with and it's a solid build that I was slowly putting together over the course of a year or so. Got the monitor and peripherals first then the tower last.
Setsul#19
Getting a bigger PSU to get multi-rail defeats the purpose of multi-rail.
Source?
Take a look at this...
http://www.overclock.net/t/761202/single-rail-vs-multi-rail-explained
[quote=Setsul]#19
Getting a bigger PSU to get multi-rail defeats the purpose of multi-rail.[/quote]
Source?
Take a look at this...
http://www.overclock.net/t/761202/single-rail-vs-multi-rail-explained
Getting a bigger PSU to get multi-rail defeats the purpose of multi-rail.[/quote]
Source?
Take a look at this...
http://www.overclock.net/t/761202/single-rail-vs-multi-rail-explained
To be honest if you're mostly playing source engine games like you list then you don't need anything super amazing. I've noticed no meaningful difference in Source Engine games after going from a 560 to a 770. Every other newer game runs better, but for Source engine games like TF2 there's been no noticeable difference for me while playing/streaming.
Just depends if you want to play newer games at the highest settings or not.
To be honest if you're mostly playing source engine games like you list then you don't need anything super amazing. I've noticed no meaningful difference in Source Engine games after going from a 560 to a 770. Every other newer game runs better, but for Source engine games like TF2 there's been no noticeable difference for me while playing/streaming.
Just depends if you want to play newer games at the highest settings or not.
Just depends if you want to play newer games at the highest settings or not.
#27
Marketing and people being stupid killed mutli-rail. The OCP tripping point is usually 2-3 times the current the rail is actually rated for. For any less than a 4 rail PSU most of the time you'll get an overload shutdown before OCP trips. Unless you put everything on one rail. Because manufacturers were tired of people who did this and then complained about "random shutdowns" and because marketing liked it the tripping points were increased.
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The point of multi-rail is that OCP trips earlier, but because the tripping points are so high nowadays, especially on PSUs with only 2 or 3 rails (you won't get more below 800W) and especially if you get a PSU with higher wattage to get multi-rail OCP will actually trip later than OCP/overload shutdown on a (smaller) single rail unit.
#27
Marketing and people being stupid killed mutli-rail. The OCP tripping point is usually 2-3 times the current the rail is actually rated for. For any less than a 4 rail PSU most of the time you'll get an overload shutdown before OCP trips. Unless you put everything on one rail. Because manufacturers were tired of people who did this and then complained about "random shutdowns" and because marketing liked it the tripping points were increased.
[/rant]
The point of multi-rail is that OCP trips earlier, but because the tripping points are so high nowadays, especially on PSUs with only 2 or 3 rails (you won't get more below 800W) and especially if you get a PSU with higher wattage to get multi-rail OCP will actually trip later than OCP/overload shutdown on a (smaller) single rail unit.
Marketing and people being stupid killed mutli-rail. The OCP tripping point is usually 2-3 times the current the rail is actually rated for. For any less than a 4 rail PSU most of the time you'll get an overload shutdown before OCP trips. Unless you put everything on one rail. Because manufacturers were tired of people who did this and then complained about "random shutdowns" and because marketing liked it the tripping points were increased.
[/rant]
The point of multi-rail is that OCP trips earlier, but because the tripping points are so high nowadays, especially on PSUs with only 2 or 3 rails (you won't get more below 800W) and especially if you get a PSU with higher wattage to get multi-rail OCP will actually trip later than OCP/overload shutdown on a (smaller) single rail unit.
Oh shit I forgot to add:
The new line of haswell refresh intel CPUs with the new z97 boards are coming out, I haven't really looked into them yet since I'm not upgrading anything, but you should look into the newer lines instead of the last gen haswells. The old haswell were good small chips with lower power consumption, but they had a problem with overheating and small overclocking capabilities. I don't know how the new ones will be but why not wait a bit more and see how to new line performs before buying the CPU.
Oh shit I forgot to add:
The new line of haswell refresh intel CPUs with the new z97 boards are coming out, I haven't really looked into them yet since I'm not upgrading anything, but you should look into the newer lines instead of the last gen haswells. The old haswell were good small chips with lower power consumption, but they had a problem with overheating and small overclocking capabilities. I don't know how the new ones will be but why not wait a bit more and see how to new line performs before buying the CPU.
The new line of haswell refresh intel CPUs with the new z97 boards are coming out, I haven't really looked into them yet since I'm not upgrading anything, but you should look into the newer lines instead of the last gen haswells. The old haswell were good small chips with lower power consumption, but they had a problem with overheating and small overclocking capabilities. I don't know how the new ones will be but why not wait a bit more and see how to new line performs before buying the CPU.
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