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Hello everybody.

I have a question for you all, what do you use to get better FPS?
As of right now i'm wondering how you get your graphics to look like this.

http://i.imgur.com/IuUOO2d.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/IuUOO2d.jpg

If you know please post in comments.

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Anyways, some good ways to make your fps better is a simple launch options command
-soft -dxlevel80 -high -heapsize 157864 -refresh 60 -noipx -nojoy

What it looks like (for me):

http://i.imgur.com/TJ3huau.png

http://i.imgur.com/TJ3huau.png

Feel free to discuss what you do for your graphics.
*Also, please help me find out how to make graphics look smooth like the first screenshot

Hello everybody.

I have a question for you all, what do you use to get better FPS?
As of right now i'm wondering how you get your graphics to look like this.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/IuUOO2d.jpg[/img]
http://i.imgur.com/IuUOO2d.jpg

If you know please post in comments.

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Anyways, some good ways to make your fps better is a simple launch options command
-soft -dxlevel80 -high -heapsize 157864 -refresh 60 -noipx -nojoy

What it looks like (for me):
[img]http://i.imgur.com/TJ3huau.png[/img]
http://i.imgur.com/TJ3huau.png

Feel free to discuss what you do for your graphics.
*Also, please help me find out how to make graphics look smooth like the first screenshot
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xDeadlyHydrasome good ways to make your fps better is a simple launch options command
-soft -dxlevel80 -high -heapsize 157864 -refresh 60 -noipx -nojoy

im pretty sure many of those commands are not even actual commands that would do anything so i doubt you gain fps with them lol

[quote=xDeadlyHydra]some good ways to make your fps better is a simple launch options command
-soft -dxlevel80 -high -heapsize 157864 -refresh 60 -noipx -nojoy[/quote]
im pretty sure many of those commands are not even actual commands that would do anything so i doubt you gain fps with them lol
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#3
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You get those graphics with Solid Textures Mod(i think its the name),it doesnt work in sv_pure so

You get those graphics with Solid Textures Mod(i think its the name),it doesnt work in sv_pure so
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Solid texture pack - Klick!

Solid texture pack - [url=http://www.mediafire.com/?pilod1nip6tncxg]Klick![/url]
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heads up, 90% of the launch options you specified in the op actually do not do anything or are pointless (or removed) in this version of the source engine. the only important ones are the dxlevel (which should be removed after first launch anyway) and nojoy (which really just removes joystick mode and doesnt improve performance).

just follow the launch options you find with the high/maxframes configs.

heads up, 90% of the launch options you specified in the op actually do not do anything or are pointless (or removed) in this version of the source engine. the only important ones are the dxlevel (which should be removed after first launch anyway) and nojoy (which really just removes joystick mode and doesnt improve performance).

just follow the launch options you find with the high/maxframes configs.
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Yeah -soft ive never heard of, -dxlevel80 will do nothing (has to have a space:-dxlevel 80), -heapsize is set to a ridiculous value (it allocates slightly less than 16 gigabytes of ram which is stupid, you are lucky valve isn't stupid and has programmed the game to ignore that else you'd just crash), -high causes instability with all your other programs and can be done via task manager anyway...

For the record a lot of the launch options that come with the configs are also useless, like the one that disables mouse accel when you can just do that in game, etc etc

But on topic I use maxframes, dx level 80, no hats, a low poly pack, as many other commands as i could find that increase fps, a particle tweaking pack that removes a lot of the extra shit, low poly weapon and projectile models... also almost as importantly you should optimise your computer by making sure there's nothing clagging up your computer, keeping it cleaned and properly cooled, tweaking the graphics card settings (with intel integrated gfx just turn the slider in its options to performance, with dedicated graphics cards there is software, for example rivatuner, that can turn your in game Level Of Detail down so that you lag a lot less), telling steam to run with low priority and in silent mode, perhaps using a program like gamebooster, making sure your antivirus program doesn't lag you in game... i could go on. Needing to do all this really depends just how low end your computer (specifically your cpu) is.

There's also a program that defrags your game cache files (.gcf) that you can download and run each update to significantly boost your game loading times, with can also be helped by turning off forcepreload in the console (might be tf_forcepreload or something like that, cant remember).

Yeah i have a bad computer :D but it runs fine now so ^^

Yeah -soft ive never heard of, -dxlevel80 will do nothing (has to have a space:-dxlevel 80), -heapsize is set to a ridiculous value (it allocates slightly less than 16 gigabytes of ram which is stupid, you are lucky valve isn't stupid and has programmed the game to ignore that else you'd just crash), -high causes instability with all your other programs and can be done via task manager anyway...

For the record a lot of the launch options that come with the configs are also useless, like the one that disables mouse accel when you can just do that in game, etc etc

But on topic I use maxframes, dx level 80, no hats, a low poly pack, as many other commands as i could find that increase fps, a particle tweaking pack that removes a lot of the extra shit, low poly weapon and projectile models... also almost as importantly you should optimise your computer by making sure there's nothing clagging up your computer, keeping it cleaned and properly cooled, tweaking the graphics card settings (with intel integrated gfx just turn the slider in its options to performance, with dedicated graphics cards there is software, for example rivatuner, that can turn your in game Level Of Detail down so that you lag a lot less), telling steam to run with low priority and in silent mode, perhaps using a program like gamebooster, making sure your antivirus program doesn't lag you in game... i could go on. Needing to do all this really depends just how low end your computer (specifically your cpu) is.

There's also a program that defrags your game cache files (.gcf) that you can download and run each update to significantly boost your game loading times, with can also be helped by turning off forcepreload in the console (might be tf_forcepreload or something like that, cant remember).

Yeah i have a bad computer :D but it runs fine now so ^^
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xDeadlyHydraHello everybody.

-nojoy

did you literally found this "command" on ruwins stuff and thought it was real?

[quote=xDeadlyHydra]Hello everybody.

-nojoy

[/quote]

did you literally found this "command" on ruwins stuff and thought it was real?
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d4m0- long post -

Can you link the poly packs you're using and do they work with sv_pure 2?

I have -high in my launch options and I haven't experienced any instability. Another way to boost FPS would be to go into your TeamFortress2 folder, right-click on hl2.exe>properties>compatibility and disable desktop composition at launch. As d4mo said, make sure your pc is running well (use CCleaner and Defraggler regularly) and check your power options to make sure they are set on high performance.

[quote=d4m0]- long post -[/quote]
Can you link the poly packs you're using and do they work with sv_pure 2?

I have -high in my launch options and I haven't experienced any instability. Another way to boost FPS would be to go into your TeamFortress2 folder, right-click on hl2.exe>properties>compatibility and disable desktop composition at launch. As d4mo said, make sure your pc is running well (use CCleaner and Defraggler regularly) and check your power options to make sure they are set on high performance.
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Got a few questions, right now my LOD BIAS is set to 3 which is TF2 default, what LOD BIAS should I use for better performance and what exactly does it do?
What else are some options in nvidiainspecor or in windows I can tweak for better performance?

Got a few questions, right now my LOD BIAS is set to 3 which is TF2 default, what LOD BIAS should I use for better performance and what exactly does it do?
What else are some options in nvidiainspecor or in windows I can tweak for better performance?
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KhanTF2d4m0- long post -Can you link the poly packs you're using and do they work with sv_pure 2?

I have -high in my launch options and I haven't experienced any instability. Another way to boost FPS would be to go into your TeamFortress2 folder, right-click on hl2.exe>properties>compatibility and disable desktop composition at launch. As d4mo said, make sure your pc is running well (use CCleaner and Defraggler regularly) and check your power options to make sure they are set on high performance.

It's called the oldschool/low poly pack mod, easy to google, but nope it doesn't work in pure 2 sorry. Only mod i know that does is nohats, no idea how they manage it lol

The high setting _can_ cause instability if other necessary programs aren't run because tf2 is a hog, it probably only matters on really bad computers anyway, but I have tried the setting on one computer that is just too bad for tf2 -- it runs walkway fine, but pubs with more than ten people wreck it, no matter how much i tweak -- and -high just made things worse.

@chrom3 i've never had a computer with a dedicated gfx card that needed lod tweaking to run tf2 smoothly, so i don't really have personal experience with that, but I have heard of a program called rivatuner which i think is nvidia specific -- there are simple guides on how to use that to lower the tf2 level of detail rendered (and thus boost framerate) dotted around the internet

As for windows we've gone through a few above but other things to do are:

Cleaning up your startup programs (really easy in win8 through task manager but doable in earlier operating systems as well)
Changing your computer's performance options (probably only important with a laptop, but probably worth checking through if you have a desktop)
going into your graphics card's options (in their proprietary software -- sounds like nvidiainspector is yours) and setting the easily understandable options to high performance over quality; just don't stuff around with options you don't understand and if you do want to experiment, google it and make sure you understand it first
Check your cpu's temperature (plenty of free programs can do this) and if it's too high then clean out your computer's airvents, fans and chassis in general. From memory 40 degrees celsius under normal use or fifty degrees while playing a game are about normal for a desktop, although laptops often go a lot higher because of poor heat dissipation
If you have a desktop and it doesn't run hot (before or after a clean) then perhaps you can overclock it a bit for better performance - with most computers it's as simple as changing a couple of settings in the bios. The main problem this can cause is excess heat, which will make the cpu cycle down anyway as well as potentially damaging it so just be careful... and just don't overclock on a laptop unless it has amazing cooling and you monitor it constantly. Even thrn you'd be best not to, as heat damage is really bad for your computer's parts.
Also check your computer's properties and device manager hardware list and just familiarise yourself with it because it might be worth it. I once was looking at the properties of a computer we'd had for five years and realised that the cpu was running at a lower ghz value than it was rated for -- it had been underclocked for five years! Wasn't happy
Depending on your specs you might just have one bottleneck that can be easily fixed, for instance if you only have 2-4 gigs of ram it will save you time and money in the long run just to get another stick of ram and plug it in (make sure you have a spare slot though first obviously) as that can improve the perormance of everything if it removes that bottleneck. The windows experience index is probably a decent guide to this

Gamebooster
Verifying game cache
Removing old maps and stuff from your tf folder probably couldn't hurt
Keep your hard drive unclogged up (try to leave a decent amount of space free as it gets used by various processes when necessary) and as said above defragged

Probably more stuff that i've forgotten lol

Sorry for great wall of text, typos, and also the lack of links i cant attach them atm
Tl;dr my computer is bad and i've spent waaaay too much of my life tweaking it to make tf2 playable

Edit: oh yeah i forgot i made a few mistakes in my prior post - .gcf files can't be defragmented before because valve removed them with steampipe and went to vpks which work differently and dont need defragging
Also i think that -heapsize value is calling for 160 gigs of ram?

[quote=KhanTF2][quote=d4m0]- long post -[/quote]
Can you link the poly packs you're using and do they work with sv_pure 2?

I have -high in my launch options and I haven't experienced any instability. Another way to boost FPS would be to go into your TeamFortress2 folder, right-click on hl2.exe>properties>compatibility and disable desktop composition at launch. As d4mo said, make sure your pc is running well (use CCleaner and Defraggler regularly) and check your power options to make sure they are set on high performance.[/quote]

It's called the oldschool/low poly pack mod, easy to google, but nope it doesn't work in pure 2 sorry. Only mod i know that does is nohats, no idea how they manage it lol

The high setting _can_ cause instability if other necessary programs aren't run because tf2 is a hog, it probably only matters on really bad computers anyway, but I have tried the setting on one computer that is just too bad for tf2 -- it runs walkway fine, but pubs with more than ten people wreck it, no matter how much i tweak -- and -high just made things worse.

@chrom3 i've never had a computer with a dedicated gfx card that needed lod tweaking to run tf2 smoothly, so i don't really have personal experience with that, but I have heard of a program called rivatuner which i think is nvidia specific -- there are simple guides on how to use that to lower the tf2 level of detail rendered (and thus boost framerate) dotted around the internet

As for windows we've gone through a few above but other things to do are:

Cleaning up your startup programs (really easy in win8 through task manager but doable in earlier operating systems as well)
Changing your computer's performance options (probably only important with a laptop, but probably worth checking through if you have a desktop)
going into your graphics card's options (in their proprietary software -- sounds like nvidiainspector is yours) and setting the easily understandable options to high performance over quality; just don't stuff around with options you don't understand and if you do want to experiment, google it and make sure you understand it first
Check your cpu's temperature (plenty of free programs can do this) and if it's too high then clean out your computer's airvents, fans and chassis in general. From memory 40 degrees celsius under normal use or fifty degrees while playing a game are about normal for a desktop, although laptops often go a lot higher because of poor heat dissipation
If you have a desktop and it doesn't run hot (before or after a clean) then perhaps you can overclock it a bit for better performance - with most computers it's as simple as changing a couple of settings in the bios. The main problem this can cause is excess heat, which will make the cpu cycle down anyway as well as potentially damaging it so just be careful... and just don't overclock on a laptop unless it has amazing cooling and you monitor it constantly. Even thrn you'd be best not to, as heat damage is really bad for your computer's parts.
Also check your computer's properties and device manager hardware list and just familiarise yourself with it because it might be worth it. I once was looking at the properties of a computer we'd had for five years and realised that the cpu was running at a lower ghz value than it was rated for -- it had been underclocked for five years! Wasn't happy
Depending on your specs you might just have one bottleneck that can be easily fixed, for instance if you only have 2-4 gigs of ram it will save you time and money in the long run just to get another stick of ram and plug it in (make sure you have a spare slot though first obviously) as that can improve the perormance of everything if it removes that bottleneck. The windows experience index is probably a decent guide to this

Gamebooster
Verifying game cache
Removing old maps and stuff from your tf folder probably couldn't hurt
Keep your hard drive unclogged up (try to leave a decent amount of space free as it gets used by various processes when necessary) and as said above defragged

Probably more stuff that i've forgotten lol

Sorry for great wall of text, typos, and also the lack of links i cant attach them atm
Tl;dr my computer is bad and i've spent waaaay too much of my life tweaking it to make tf2 playable

Edit: oh yeah i forgot i made a few mistakes in my prior post - .gcf files can't be defragmented before because valve removed them with steampipe and went to vpks which work differently and dont need defragging
Also i think that -heapsize value is calling for 160 gigs of ram?
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