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ESEA PETITION to Implement Server-Side FOV to 105.
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TwinqeOdissius What is this resistance to change from the shitties in this thread?
Usually, it's hard to convince the community to change something when you call people who disagree with your suggestion 'shitties' and repeatedly shoot down legitimate criticism.
Waiting for legit criticism of an increase of 15 FOV, apparently people think it breaks the game.
None has been posted yet.
[quote=Twinqe][quote=Odissius] What is this resistance to change from the shitties in this thread?[/quote]
Usually, it's hard to convince the community to change something when you call people who disagree with your suggestion 'shitties' and repeatedly shoot down legitimate criticism.[/quote]
Waiting for legit criticism of an increase of 15 FOV, apparently people think it breaks the game.
None has been posted yet.
Usually, it's hard to convince the community to change something when you call people who disagree with your suggestion 'shitties' and repeatedly shoot down legitimate criticism.[/quote]
Waiting for legit criticism of an increase of 15 FOV, apparently people think it breaks the game.
None has been posted yet.
http://i.imgur.com/m7gBM.png
http://i.imgur.com/A4MEc.png
105 is just enough to get a real 120 degree fov on a widescreen monitor. A 120 degree fov is like the holy grail of distortion vs awareness - 1/3 of a circle!
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1811521/fov.html
fun fact: the natural progression along 75->90->x goes to 108, which is what I personally want to play tf2 with (but can't).
http://i.imgur.com/m7gBM.png
http://i.imgur.com/A4MEc.png
105 is just enough to get a real 120 degree fov on a widescreen monitor. A 120 degree fov is like the holy grail of distortion vs awareness - 1/3 of a circle!
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1811521/fov.html
fun fact: the natural progression along 75->90->x goes to 108, which is what I personally want to play tf2 with (but can't).
http://i.imgur.com/A4MEc.png
105 is just enough to get a real 120 degree fov on a widescreen monitor. A 120 degree fov is like the holy grail of distortion vs awareness - 1/3 of a circle!
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1811521/fov.html
fun fact: the natural progression along 75->90->x goes to 108, which is what I personally want to play tf2 with (but can't).
everyone who disagrees with me is a retard
anyone who agrees with me is reasonable
everyone who disagrees with me is a retard
anyone who agrees with me is reasonable
anyone who agrees with me is reasonable
Have you tried:
1. Going to the eye doctor
2. Buy a big monitor
3. Quit TF2
Have you tried:
1. Going to the eye doctor
2. Buy a big monitor
3. Quit TF2
1. Going to the eye doctor
2. Buy a big monitor
3. Quit TF2
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please find a doctor that would agree that your eye strain problem is caused by your video game not having a big enough fov
please find a doctor that would agree that your eye strain problem is caused by your video game not having a big enough fov
105 FOV gives me serious eye strain i'll settle for nothing less than 270
105 FOV gives me serious eye strain i'll settle for nothing less than 270
If you want attention that badly, go back to SPUF.
Was that like a godwin or something?
If you want attention that badly, go back to SPUF.
Was that like a godwin or something?
Was that like a godwin or something?
i didn't read much of this thread, but if I recall someone pointed out that on 6:9 widescreen, the fov is indeed 105.
isn't that what you wanted 'original thread starter'?
i didn't read much of this thread, but if I recall someone pointed out that on 6:9 widescreen, the fov is indeed 105.
isn't that what you wanted 'original thread starter'?
isn't that what you wanted 'original thread starter'?
Why are there so many QQing faggots in this thread?
Do you think that if this was implemented you would be automatically shit on by people with 15 degree higher FOVs?
If so, then urine idiot.
Why are there so many QQing faggots in this thread?
Do you think that if this was implemented you would be automatically shit on by people with 15 degree higher FOVs?
If so, then urine idiot.
Do you think that if this was implemented you would be automatically shit on by people with 15 degree higher FOVs?
If so, then urine idiot.
OdissiusWhy are there so many QQing faggots in this thread?
Do you think that if this was implemented you would be automatically shit on by people with 15 degree higher FOVs?
If so, then urine idiot.
Looking at your profile page, you have the Benq monitor so you already have a 100ish FOV.
[quote=Odissius]Why are there so many QQing faggots in this thread?
Do you think that if this was implemented you would be automatically shit on by people with 15 degree higher FOVs?
If so, then urine idiot.[/quote]
Looking at your profile page, you have the Benq monitor so you already have a 100ish FOV.
Do you think that if this was implemented you would be automatically shit on by people with 15 degree higher FOVs?
If so, then urine idiot.[/quote]
Looking at your profile page, you have the Benq monitor so you already have a 100ish FOV.
FzeroLooking at your profile page, you have the Benq monitor so you already have a 100ish FOV.
Despite that fact the game is still too zoomed in.
I feel like people in this thread do not know how the human eye works.
[quote=Fzero]Looking at your profile page, you have the Benq monitor so you already have a 100ish FOV.[/quote]
Despite that fact the game is still too zoomed in.
I feel like people in this thread do not know how the human eye works.
Despite that fact the game is still too zoomed in.
I feel like people in this thread do not know how the human eye works.
OdissiusFzeroLooking at your profile page, you have the Benq monitor so you already have a 100ish FOV.
I feel like people in this thread do not know how the human eye works.
Enlighten us.
Say they up it too 105. Well, I think 105 is too low. I want it 15 degrees higher. Make it 120. Joe Schmo thinks 120 is too low. He wants it 15 degrees higher. Well, ESEA better make it 135, then.
[quote=Odissius][quote=Fzero]Looking at your profile page, you have the Benq monitor so you already have a 100ish FOV.[/quote]
I feel like people in this thread do not know how the human eye works.[/quote]
Enlighten us.
Say they up it too 105. Well, I think 105 is too low. I want it 15 degrees higher. Make it 120. Joe Schmo thinks 120 is too low. He wants it 15 degrees higher. Well, ESEA better make it 135, then.
I feel like people in this thread do not know how the human eye works.[/quote]
Enlighten us.
Say they up it too 105. Well, I think 105 is too low. I want it 15 degrees higher. Make it 120. Joe Schmo thinks 120 is too low. He wants it 15 degrees higher. Well, ESEA better make it 135, then.
Odissius...If so, then urine idiot.
[quote=Odissius]
...If so, then urine idiot.[/quote]
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...If so, then urine idiot.[/quote]
[img]http://www.lolwtfcomics.com/upload/uploads/1316828548.jpg[/img]
OP just to help you out. My eyes hurt from time to time from even looking at a monitor. Go buy a pair of gunner optiks and problem solved. As much crap people talk about gunnars, they actually do work.
OP just to help you out. My eyes hurt from time to time from even looking at a monitor. Go buy a pair of gunner optiks and problem solved. As much crap people talk about gunnars, they actually do work.
frknEnlighten us.
Say they up it too 105. Well, I think 105 is too low. I want it 15 degrees higher. Make it 120. Joe Schmo thinks 120 is too low. He wants it 15 degrees higher. Well, ESEA better make it 135, then.
I'm asking for 105 because it is a reasonable increase and doesn't change gameplay. Unlike petitions/threads in the past that have asked (stupidly) for 120+.
If you want to learn how the human eye works with FOV and games, watch this...essentially when you can't see peripheral vision = eyestrain/motion sickness, because it is not what our brain is used to seeing. Human eyes have a FOV of 180-200.
(skip to 2:20)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blZUao2jTGA
tragicOP just to help you out. My eyes hurt from time to time from even looking at a monitor. Go buy a pair of gunner optiks and problem solved. As much crap people talk about gunnars, they actually do work.
The only time my eyes ever hurt when looking at a monitor are when I play TF2 at 90 FOV.
[quote=frkn]Enlighten us.
Say they up it too 105. Well, I think 105 is too low. I want it 15 degrees higher. Make it 120. Joe Schmo thinks 120 is too low. He wants it 15 degrees higher. Well, ESEA better make it 135, then.[/quote]
I'm asking for 105 because it is a reasonable increase and doesn't change gameplay. Unlike petitions/threads in the past that have asked (stupidly) for 120+.
If you want to learn how the human eye works with FOV and games, watch this...essentially when you can't see peripheral vision = eyestrain/motion sickness, because it is not what our brain is used to seeing. Human eyes have a FOV of 180-200.
(skip to 2:20)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blZUao2jTGA[/youtube]
[quote=tragic]OP just to help you out. My eyes hurt from time to time from even looking at a monitor. Go buy a pair of gunner optiks and problem solved. As much crap people talk about gunnars, they actually do work.[/quote]
The only time my eyes ever hurt when looking at a monitor are when I play TF2 at 90 FOV.
Say they up it too 105. Well, I think 105 is too low. I want it 15 degrees higher. Make it 120. Joe Schmo thinks 120 is too low. He wants it 15 degrees higher. Well, ESEA better make it 135, then.[/quote]
I'm asking for 105 because it is a reasonable increase and doesn't change gameplay. Unlike petitions/threads in the past that have asked (stupidly) for 120+.
If you want to learn how the human eye works with FOV and games, watch this...essentially when you can't see peripheral vision = eyestrain/motion sickness, because it is not what our brain is used to seeing. Human eyes have a FOV of 180-200.
(skip to 2:20)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blZUao2jTGA[/youtube]
[quote=tragic]OP just to help you out. My eyes hurt from time to time from even looking at a monitor. Go buy a pair of gunner optiks and problem solved. As much crap people talk about gunnars, they actually do work.[/quote]
The only time my eyes ever hurt when looking at a monitor are when I play TF2 at 90 FOV.
i hope you realize you're not exactly helping your cause when all you've really done in your thread is insult people, call them ignorant and act like you're superior to everyone
i hope you realize you're not exactly helping your cause when all you've really done in your thread is insult people, call them ignorant and act like you're superior to everyone
FFGi hope you realize you're not exactly helping your cause when all you've really done in your thread is insult people, call them ignorant and act like you're superior to everyone
That's what happens when people shitpost.
Thread full of 'lol', 'this is stupid', 'huehuehue didnt reed'.
[quote=FFG]i hope you realize you're not exactly helping your cause when all you've really done in your thread is insult people, call them ignorant and act like you're superior to everyone[/quote]
That's what happens when people shitpost.
Thread full of 'lol', 'this is stupid', 'huehuehue didnt reed'.
That's what happens when people shitpost.
Thread full of 'lol', 'this is stupid', 'huehuehue didnt reed'.
OdissiusFFGi hope you realize you're not exactly helping your cause when all you've really done in your thread is insult people, call them ignorant and act like you're superior to everyoneThat's what happens when people shitpost.Thread full of 'lol', 'this is stupid', 'huehuehue didnt reed'.
Says the shitty who has alts to plus frag himself. No way you get 3 plus frags 1 minute after posting.
1) you're still petitioning for ESEA to change FOV, not valve. You wll have eye strain every time you pub or scrim. Nobody ever sigyificantly pugs on ESEA. That feature only accounts for a small portion of the games you will ever play.
2) you haven't had anyone seriously agree that they get eye strain. It's your problem. Not anyone elses. You buy 3 monitors so that youcan get eyefinity fov. Because nobody else gives a shit about you eyestrain.
[quote=Odissius][quote=FFG]i hope you realize you're not exactly helping your cause when all you've really done in your thread is insult people, call them ignorant and act like you're superior to everyone[/quote]That's what happens when people shitpost.Thread full of 'lol', 'this is stupid', 'huehuehue didnt reed'.[/quote]
Says the shitty who has alts to plus frag himself. No way you get 3 plus frags 1 minute after posting.
1) you're still petitioning for ESEA to change FOV, not valve. You wll have eye strain every time you pub or scrim. Nobody ever sigyificantly pugs on ESEA. That feature only accounts for a small portion of the games you will ever play.
2) you haven't had anyone seriously agree that they get eye strain. It's your problem. Not anyone elses. You buy 3 monitors so that youcan get eyefinity fov. Because nobody else gives a shit about you eyestrain.
Says the shitty who has alts to plus frag himself. No way you get 3 plus frags 1 minute after posting.
1) you're still petitioning for ESEA to change FOV, not valve. You wll have eye strain every time you pub or scrim. Nobody ever sigyificantly pugs on ESEA. That feature only accounts for a small portion of the games you will ever play.
2) you haven't had anyone seriously agree that they get eye strain. It's your problem. Not anyone elses. You buy 3 monitors so that youcan get eyefinity fov. Because nobody else gives a shit about you eyestrain.
Look at the badlands middle pics. You could view balcony/flank while keeping your crosshair on choke for spam.
[quote]Look at the badlands middle pics. You could view balcony/flank while keeping your crosshair on choke for spam.[/quote]
You seem to be one of the few with this problem...which is unfortunate.
You seem to be one of the few with this problem...which is unfortunate.
uhhh you can see so much more
and "There is no change in gameplay with a FOV increase of 15 degrees" isnt 75 + 15 = 90 LOL
uhhh you can see so much more
and "There is no change in gameplay with a FOV increase of 15 degrees" isnt 75 + 15 = 90 LOL
and "There is no change in gameplay with a FOV increase of 15 degrees" isnt 75 + 15 = 90 LOL
brownymaster1) you're still petitioning for ESEA to change FOV, not valve. You wll have eye strain every time you pub or scrim. Nobody ever sigyificantly pugs on ESEA. That feature only accounts for a small portion of the games you will ever play.
I don't understand why everyone is raging about the possibility of an extra 15 FOV. It doesn't change gameplay. Why is everyone so resistant to change (for the better)?
I'm petitioning ESEA, because I want to play there and give them my money next season. I figured I'd petition ESEA instead of Valve because theoretically it would be easier to change their minds than Valve's, but with all of this resistance I can see that is not the case.
I won't get eyestrain during pubbing/scrimming because of the OpenPlugin allowing FOV to be set to whatever I want.
FzeroLook at the badlands middle pics. You could view balcony/flank while keeping your crosshair on choke for spam.
FYI it doesn't actually change anything while playing. You're too busy watching your ammocount/making calls/making sure to get out if they push and you're at a disadvantage.
[quote=brownymaster]1) you're still petitioning for ESEA to change FOV, not valve. You wll have eye strain every time you pub or scrim. Nobody ever sigyificantly pugs on ESEA. That feature only accounts for a small portion of the games you will ever play.[/quote]
I don't understand why everyone is raging about the possibility of an extra 15 FOV. It doesn't change gameplay. Why is everyone so resistant to change (for the better)?
I'm petitioning ESEA, because I want to play there and give them my money next season. I figured I'd petition ESEA instead of Valve because theoretically it would be easier to change their minds than Valve's, but with all of this resistance I can see that is not the case.
I won't get eyestrain during pubbing/scrimming because of the OpenPlugin allowing FOV to be set to whatever I want.
[quote=Fzero]Look at the badlands middle pics. You could view balcony/flank while keeping your crosshair on choke for spam.[/quote]
FYI it doesn't actually change anything while playing. You're too busy watching your ammocount/making calls/making sure to get out if they push and you're at a disadvantage.
I don't understand why everyone is raging about the possibility of an extra 15 FOV. It doesn't change gameplay. Why is everyone so resistant to change (for the better)?
I'm petitioning ESEA, because I want to play there and give them my money next season. I figured I'd petition ESEA instead of Valve because theoretically it would be easier to change their minds than Valve's, but with all of this resistance I can see that is not the case.
I won't get eyestrain during pubbing/scrimming because of the OpenPlugin allowing FOV to be set to whatever I want.
[quote=Fzero]Look at the badlands middle pics. You could view balcony/flank while keeping your crosshair on choke for spam.[/quote]
FYI it doesn't actually change anything while playing. You're too busy watching your ammocount/making calls/making sure to get out if they push and you're at a disadvantage.
Odissius
FYI it doesn't actually change anything while playing. You're too busy watching your ammocount/making calls/making sure to get out if they push and you're at a disadvantage.
You shouldn't be staring at your ammocount
[quote=Odissius]
FYI it doesn't actually change anything while playing. You're too busy watching your ammocount/making calls/making sure to get out if they push and you're at a disadvantage.[/quote]
You shouldn't be staring at your ammocount
FYI it doesn't actually change anything while playing. You're too busy watching your ammocount/making calls/making sure to get out if they push and you're at a disadvantage.[/quote]
You shouldn't be staring at your ammocount
frknYou shouldn't be staring at your ammocount
True...Maybe because a lot of maps lack ammo?
[quote=frkn]You shouldn't be staring at your ammocount[/quote]
True...Maybe because a lot of maps lack ammo?
True...Maybe because a lot of maps lack ammo?
frknOdissius
FYI it doesn't actually change anything while playing. You're too busy watching your ammocount/making calls/making sure to get out if they push and you're at a disadvantage.
You shouldn't be staring at your ammocount
You ever play pocket mate?
Out of ammo 24/7 and then there are only ever those baby ammo packs around, which is a joke...
[quote=frkn][quote=Odissius]
FYI it doesn't actually change anything while playing. You're too busy watching your ammocount/making calls/making sure to get out if they push and you're at a disadvantage.[/quote]
You shouldn't be staring at your ammocount[/quote]
You ever play pocket mate?
Out of ammo 24/7 and then there are only ever those baby ammo packs around, which is a joke...
FYI it doesn't actually change anything while playing. You're too busy watching your ammocount/making calls/making sure to get out if they push and you're at a disadvantage.[/quote]
You shouldn't be staring at your ammocount[/quote]
You ever play pocket mate?
Out of ammo 24/7 and then there are only ever those baby ammo packs around, which is a joke...
Odissiusbrownymaster1) you're still petitioning for ESEA to change FOV, not valve. You wll have eye strain every time you pub or scrim. Nobody ever sigyificantly pugs on ESEA. That feature only accounts for a small portion of the games you will ever play.
I don't understand why everyone is raging about the possibility of an extra 15 FOV. It doesn't change gameplay. Why is everyone so resistant to change (for the better)?
I'm petitioning ESEA, because I want to play there and give them my money next season. I figured I'd petition ESEA instead of Valve because theoretically it would be easier to change their minds than Valve's, but with all of this resistance I can see that is not the case.
I won't get eyestrain during pubbing/scrimming because of the OpenPlugin allowing FOV to be set to whatever I want.
FzeroLook at the badlands middle pics. You could view balcony/flank while keeping your crosshair on choke for spam.
FYI it doesn't actually change anything while playing. You're too busy watching your ammocount/making calls/making sure to get out if they push and you're at a disadvantage.
How is that even a counter argument? You have said 10 times now that it doesn't change anything in the game and I tell you how it, in fact, does change what you can see. Being able to see a flank spot without having to even move your vision away from the main spam is a complete deference.
[quote=Odissius][quote=brownymaster]1) you're still petitioning for ESEA to change FOV, not valve. You wll have eye strain every time you pub or scrim. Nobody ever sigyificantly pugs on ESEA. That feature only accounts for a small portion of the games you will ever play.[/quote]
I don't understand why everyone is raging about the possibility of an extra 15 FOV. It doesn't change gameplay. Why is everyone so resistant to change (for the better)?
I'm petitioning ESEA, because I want to play there and give them my money next season. I figured I'd petition ESEA instead of Valve because theoretically it would be easier to change their minds than Valve's, but with all of this resistance I can see that is not the case.
I won't get eyestrain during pubbing/scrimming because of the OpenPlugin allowing FOV to be set to whatever I want.
[quote=Fzero]Look at the badlands middle pics. You could view balcony/flank while keeping your crosshair on choke for spam.[/quote]
FYI it doesn't actually change anything while playing. You're too busy watching your ammocount/making calls/making sure to get out if they push and you're at a disadvantage.[/quote]
How is that even a counter argument? You have said 10 times now that it doesn't change anything in the game and I tell you how it, in fact, does change what you can see. Being able to see a flank spot without having to even move your vision away from the main spam is a complete deference.
I don't understand why everyone is raging about the possibility of an extra 15 FOV. It doesn't change gameplay. Why is everyone so resistant to change (for the better)?
I'm petitioning ESEA, because I want to play there and give them my money next season. I figured I'd petition ESEA instead of Valve because theoretically it would be easier to change their minds than Valve's, but with all of this resistance I can see that is not the case.
I won't get eyestrain during pubbing/scrimming because of the OpenPlugin allowing FOV to be set to whatever I want.
[quote=Fzero]Look at the badlands middle pics. You could view balcony/flank while keeping your crosshair on choke for spam.[/quote]
FYI it doesn't actually change anything while playing. You're too busy watching your ammocount/making calls/making sure to get out if they push and you're at a disadvantage.[/quote]
How is that even a counter argument? You have said 10 times now that it doesn't change anything in the game and I tell you how it, in fact, does change what you can see. Being able to see a flank spot without having to even move your vision away from the main spam is a complete deference.
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