seems cool. good luck!

lol c'mon dude

you should get in touch with the playIGL guys and share some notes

No idea what playIGL is or does wrong, but fair enough :P

It's cool seeing new people support competitive tf2

Are your tournaments going to be like, singular double elim brackets style? or are they more like leagues or ladders with multiple seasons?

https://angel.co/international-gaming-league

@Khaki

For TF2 we have Ultiduo, 6v6 and Highlander planned. And probably seasons yeah.
Although, we're still figuring stuff out, so feel free suggest anything

Update 4!
The 6v6 Whitelist has been generated!
http://whitelist.tf/2396

4th Whitelist Edition

Is the necro smasher allowed? Killing people with a hammer in comp feels good 8>

Yes. Any reskin is allowed.

eu, usa, asia, australia ? ?? ?

EU & USA.
EU will come first, and then around Summer 2015 we'll start buying servers in America.
We're just a small group of people at the moment, so expanding takes a while.

We MAY later even move onto Australia.

Solemn vow is generally considered a bad idea for sixes (banned in ESEA and CEVO). Other than that the whitelist looks good I think?

Edit: Yeah and crit-a-cola please no.

Very good of you to adopt a different stance than ETF2L :D

Few concerns still :

• Crit-a-cola : this *could* be really abused, especially to do super fast rollouts
  
• Bazaar Bargain : i might be late to the party but i believe it's banned in 9v9 because of a bug that allows it to charge faster even without heads, you might have to check this
  
• Not a lot of heavy/engi unlocks : is it because you believe that Heavies and engineers aren't fun to play/to play against? These two classes seem pretty left alone in my opinion. You could maybe allow sandvich, buffalo steak, all the miniguns minus natascha, holiday punch, pomson(it has been nerfed come on), widowmaker and southern hospitality without causing too much unfun/unfair abusement.

TLDR : good whitelist, to keep the same spirit add some engi/heavy unlocks

We decided add it since the market gardener is allowed; to sort of even things out.
Should we remove it?

The crit-a-cola should be considered a buff and nerf, because of the increased "damage taken" aspect.
However we are open to suggestions, so tell me if you'd like it removed.

The bazaar bargain bug was fixed 2 months ago.

I'll gladly add the weapons you suggested.
Cheers

You take more damage but people wouldn't use it in combat, just drink it at the start to get to mid before demomen.

Updated Whitelist (6v6)!
http://whitelist.tf/2305

- Removed Crit-a-Cola due to rollout buff
- Added Heavy Primaries except for Natasha
- Added Steak, Sandwich (Heavy)
- Added Southern Hospitality, Pomson 6000 & Widowmaker
- Solemn Vow is undecided.

Definitely remove the solemn vow. It seriously changes the meta when there are adequate communications between players. Good call on the crit-a-cola btw. :)

We're going to test out the current Config (http://steamcommunity.com/groups/letsplay6v6) and see if the Solemn Vow is OP

There's no point really since it lets you see hitpoints there's no way anyone will go with Ubersaw once it gets allowed..

Alright, i'll update the whitelist.

Whitelist Update (6v6):
http://whitelist.tf/2306

- Removed Solemn Vow due to popular request

idk how I feel about the sandviches it's basically a free health pack for your team while defending and could cause a rly stalematey game should be removed imo

the southern hospitality is alright, the pomson's blast radius or what ever u call it is fucking insane, and imo i feel like the widowmaker/crits combo would be spammed

is a widowmaker kritz anywhere near as good as a demo kritz?

what if demo is dead. also, the fact that if you can hit your shots you can never run out of ammo sounds like there would be a lot of big plays with this weapon

Reading the op gave me a headache lol. When everything is highlighted, nothing is highlighted.

Also pompson is really broken. -10% Uber is a really stupid mechanic in a format played around ubers. Widowmaker is a really questionable unlock too.

I'm not sure from which whitelist you're taking notes from, but you got some stuff you'd want to consider changing:

Unban:
1)Degreaser, Backburner, Axtinguisher - all 3 are allowed in both ESEA and ETF2L, none change the meta of the pyro but actually help the pyro deal with pushes a bit easier than he would with stock flamethrower and the other axes, really no reason to keep them banned.

2)Dalokohs Bar, Holiday Punch - the Dalokohs Bar gives a really small buff to the heavy which is barely used, it's allowed in ETF2L and it didn't change the meta at all.
Now with the Holiday Punch there is a question mark above it, which is up to you, but I think that it deserves a shot, it's a reward weapon, if you manage to get behind a whole team and punch them in the back, you deserve to see them laughing :).

3)Eureka Effect - the Eureka Effect which takes you a ton of time to upgrade your sentry to level 2, let alone level 3, which will be a total downside with really no reason to use it, don't even get the reason it's banned still.

Ban:
1)Sandvich, Buffalo Steak Sandvich - first off, the Sandvich will allow heavy throwing sandvichs on defense which will cause easier lasts to defend with a medium health pack to everyone and will cause more stalemates.
With the Buffalo Steak Sandvich effect, allows heavy to eat it in spawn on rollout, and get to mid as fast as the medic, which will encourage a heavy-to-mid strat, and make heavy more viable which will cause stalemates as well.

2)Pomson 6000 - this gun can change a game in a single shot, that requires very little aim since the projectile is quite wide, it can take away -10% of an enemy medic and can destroy a push completely with a single shot, let alone 4 shots that if hit, can take away -40%, it's a broken weapon, which should be nerfed and a complete upgrade from any of the engie's primaries.

3)Soda Popper - this gun right here, is very, very powerful, it allows the scout to have 4 additional jumps when he gets to mid, this gun, as a roamer, terrifies me, I'd imagine myself trying to jump (on badlands) from closet onto the enemy train, and when i'm at my highest point of my jump I meet a scout in front of me with 2 shots that can deal a crazy amount of damage and shut me down completely, and that's only one thing that it can do.
A really annoying gun that is an upgrade to almost all primaries, and is also banned in both ESEA and ETF2L.

It's totally viable and not a complete upgrade to the shotgun, it's risk weapon that relays on if you hit your shots or not, so if you do, you'll kill them (which almost never happens) and if you don't you lose your metal and your primary, I think it's very viable.

Why ban Quick-Fix and allow Vaccinator?
I'd also suggest banning Soda Popper, Steak, Sandvich and Pomson and allowing Degreaser and Backburner. They are allowed even is ETF2L.

I went ahead an applied all the requested changes to the whitelist!
Special thanks to JackyLegs for the great input.

Whitelist: http://whitelist.tf/2380
+ Added Degreaser, Backburner & Axtinguisher (popular demand + makes sense)
+ Added Dalokohs Bar & Holiday Punch (Dalohks replaces steak & sandvich, Holiday Punch sounds like it would be rewarding enough to pull off a hit)
+ Added Eureka Effect (useless anyways)
- Removed Steak & Sandvich (due to being able to heal teammates)
- Removed Pomson 6000 (due to wide projectile girth)
- Removed Soda Popper (due to being overpowered at rollouts)

Thanks for your input, TF.tv Community!

I may be too strict, but i'd ban Dead Ringer, and i'm quite afraid that demoknight would give a kind of randomness to the gameplay...