mr. sline

Killing, sorry if I missed it, but did you address this? The deadline for registration was January 5, was it not?

so is invite alive or not

Something I've been wondering the entire time, to be honest.

This is a claim that needs to be addressed and not shrugged off by ESEA.

Invite killing Invite

a) YES b) NO
c) MAYBE d) NEVER

See #64.

Funeral services are planned for this Wednesday at 9:00 pm in skial badwater

"Registration will be open until January 5th 2015 11:59pm
Season 18 LAN
Prizes
Fun"

Killing's a liar :(

Thank you for letting us know the situation at ESEA. It is appreciated. What sort of response did ESEA see from Intermediate, and Invite yesterday (in regards to players discussing w/ admins taking rosters, moving up, and the number of teams possible as a result -- not fees paid)? How many teams, w/ planned move-ups, now look to be in either division? If I'm not mistaken, aren't most Invite teams waiting to pay -- waiting to know if Invite will exist this season?

From what I saw on this thread yesterday, it looked as if teams would form/ask to be moved up, and if each division could sustain itself. Ultimately what I'm asking with the three questions above is: have expectations/hopes exceeded reality?

An update would be highly appreciated, thanks.

Only thing I can say right now is, Intermediate wouldn't be viable. I'll speak with Killing / tri today and make the final call on what will be done for S18.

Moveups have already been done (minus Invite).

When can we expect the final word in how S18 will be structured?

Unfortunate, but thank you for the update Shooter. As a community, we (hopefully) will respect whatever decision is made with outlook towards a fun season, and things going better in the future. Out of curiosity, would ESEA entertain the idea of reviving a division in the future if enough interest is shown or is it much too soon to say?

It's honestly sort of sad how only 9 IM teams are fully paid at the moment. There are things that come up, holiday season, etc., but really who can be blamed when so few teams pay up when their division is on the line. I still don't think it would be a good idea to reduce divisions as 3 divisions IS viable if you look at projections, we should have more teams than last season.

I never understand why people wait so long to pay a cheap league fee. I could understand if it was $99.95 to play but it's not. Stop fucking blaming the "holiday season" for not having 15 dollars in your paypal account.

If you plan to play this season, go pay your fucking league fees. 2 fucking days left. If you have a job then its easy to get paid up you have the money. If you are a child, go tell mommy and daddy your Christmas gifts were not that great this year. They will feel bad and then you ask for the league fee. DONE

This has probably been answered 5 million times already, but what is the required number of paid teams in IM to keep the 3 divisions?

I'm just going to say that there are 14+ teams with 2+ paid which should mean they're being taken into consideration. There are also other IM teams that WILL be formed and paid up if provided the time, not to mention the teams still finalizing players so they can pay up. If you read this shooter/killing please take those points into consideration, we were told 16+ teams would be good for an IM division and that'll be the case.

can we get 16 IM rosters filled up

edit: split is too fast

Thanks Invite, 0 players paid up.

There are 9 fully paid teams so far (good job!).

Kev said he'll be using the Japanifest Destiny roster.
Meat Market, Sparkle Bunnies, and American Jerks will be paid up (RIGHT?).
ddddddd and the Champagne and Cocaine roster too.

That's 15 teams alone, excluding any potential hijacks from Guado Glories and or Pinoy Boys.

It's just a matter of paying up now. It's not a problem with teams.

http://puu.sh/e1rQB/1e4f32c800.jpg

Invite is like the popular kids in my high school. Don't give a shit about anyone or anything that effects them but they are all still better than us

KNUCKLES PLEASE

LOL

ded

It's really not about being so poor that you can't pay $15; that only applies to a very small minority of the players here.

Most people aren't willing to drop money for a team unless they are certain that them and their teammates will work well together and the team isn't going to die from ragequitters after losing their first 2 matches. This means that the team will want to have a good number of scrims under their belt with their full lineup before paying, which many teams haven't had the chance to do because of the short offseason. Mathematically, getting the lowest chance of wasting money on a dead team means paying up as late as possible at the deadline, which players have historically always done unless esea makes passive-aggressive threats about killing the entire game.

edit: I just realized this post is indirectly arguing against anyone picking me up for this season. OPEN TEAMS I AM NOT A TEAM KILLER I PROMISE.

this has not been a shortened offseason fyi

the issues with talent filtering down only goes to about mid IM. Below that you've had plenty of time to run tryouts and scrim as a team

There are more than 50 teams in open right now. Nobody is worried about open's numbers anymore, at least in the short term. The whole reason for panic in the later half of this thread is that there aren't enough mid IM+ teams ready to start the season.

i still dont understand how esea can say they are dying for IM teams when they won't give the 4 players from graveguns an IM roster to use. it really confuses me how just because the one guy who is the leader of the team is able to decide the fate of the other 4 players on a team if he decides to hold the roster hostage.

maybe im speaking about things i dont really know about, but from what ive read it doesnt seem like this is a case of division needing to be "self sustaining". that team came in 3rd in open so it really confuses me that if hippo wasnt the leader, and one of the 4 people who still wanted to play was, no one would even bat an eye if they wanted to pick up 2 IM-capable players and continue to play and move up to IM.

its just pretty bullshit that esea throws their hands up and says "oh well we just cant do anything sorry lol" when clearly they can do something, that would help both these players (who deserve to get moved and still show interest in playing in IM) and the league as a whole at this point.

What Killing brought up in response to ^ topic before was "I cannot manually move up teams every single season."

I think what we're trying to get across is we are not asking for you to do such every season, I don't think anyone plans to take it as precedent for future team issues, we're just in a situation where we need IM teams and this is an easy fix.