Today we bring you a matchup between two rivals; eLevate TF2 and Street Hoops eSports. These two have been duking it out for the last several LANs and have had great games. While eLevate has generally won against 20b, Street Hoops eSports has kept their 6 players from last season, while eLevate has made some (impressive) roster changes. Join us on cp_gullywash_final1 with bloodsire, tagg, and dashner on the camera.
Match5 - 3 hoops because of ash.
Looks like Decimate can't play tonight so the match is being rescheduled.
manaLooks like Decimate can't play tonight so the match is being rescheduled.
RIP
RIP
dashnerthe return
We need to bring cbear back from the dead
We need to bring cbear back from the dead
Wow, 16jacobj, am I not good enough for you? I'm about to go live and you just crushed my self-esteem. Thanks, 16jacobj. :(
did tagg really just say that ma3la on pyro was the reason elevate was winning at first l0l
http://i.imgur.com/yI1SXch.png?1
Tagg was so good he and his clone casted.
Tagg was so good he and his clone casted.
mustardoverlorddid tagg really just say that ma3la on pyro was the reason elevate was winning at first l0l
to clarify, ma3la on full time pyro completely fucked his team over
to clarify, ma3la on full time pyro completely fucked his team over
mustardoverlordmustardoverlorddid tagg really just say that ma3la on pyro was the reason elevate was winning at first l0l
to clarify, ma3la on full time pyro completely fucked his team over
Don't think you if Tagg had that kind of analysis, he would have a legitimate reason? Like, maybe he was actually right?
I mean, yeah, it's all subjective and whatever, but Tagg has great insight and I've seen Ma3la use pyro effectively while in-game with him.
Ma3la plays steady pyro rather well, and he's made it really effective starting in parts of last season. Even Ma3la will say that it's still hard to dictate times where spawning pyro is outright better than soldier, but he's still shown to do it well.
to clarify, ma3la on full time pyro completely fucked his team over[/quote]
Don't think you if Tagg had that kind of analysis, he would have a legitimate reason? Like, maybe he was actually right?
I mean, yeah, it's all subjective and whatever, but Tagg has great insight and I've seen Ma3la use pyro effectively while in-game with him.
Ma3la plays steady pyro rather well, and he's made it really effective starting in parts of last season. Even Ma3la will say that it's still hard to dictate times where spawning pyro is outright better than soldier, but he's still shown to do it well.
when is playing pyro for an entire round better than soldier?
dummywhen is playing pyro for an entire round better than soldier?
out of literally every single person, I knew you would respond to this first, rofl.
He played pyro more than soldier in the first half, which is where they went up 3-1. Not sure if the comment Tagg made came before or after the first half.
out of literally every single person, I knew you would respond to this first, rofl.
He played pyro more than soldier in the first half, which is where they went up 3-1. Not sure if the comment Tagg made came before or after the first half.
i mean there are a lot of factors that go into them being 3-1 and just saying "he was pyro and they were winning" doesnt mean anything, if anyhting that could be indicative of sub par soldier play the 2nd half. Meanwhile ash was runnin a train on dat ass all game
mustardoverlordmustardoverlorddid tagg really just say that ma3la on pyro was the reason elevate was winning at first l0l
to clarify, ma3la on full time pyro completely fucked his team over
Posts like that make you seem a dumbass.
to clarify, ma3la on full time pyro completely fucked his team over[/quote]
Posts like that make you seem a dumbass.
If there is a map where pyro isn't absolutely awful, it's gullywash.
I just feel bad for decimate. At one point ma3la was on pyro playing near the combo, alfa was running shotgun and taking a lot of the ubers, shrugger plays a pretty heal heavy scout, and bdonski was.. Honestly I don't know but still. Decimate was the only one ACTUALLY pushing the flank
dummyi mean there are a lot of factors that go into them being 3-1 and just saying "he was pyro and they were winning" doesnt mean anything, if anyhting that could be indicative of sub par soldier play the 2nd half. Meanwhile ash was runnin a train on dat ass all game
Knuckles_I just feel bad for decimate. At one point ma3la was on pyro playing near the combo, alfa was running shotgun and taking a lot of the ubers, shrugger plays a pretty heal heavy scout, and bdonski was.. Honestly I don't know but still. Decimate was the only one ACTUALLY pushing the flank
these two points combined sum up my feelings.
when I was watching the game, it was clear that almost everyone on elevate was outplaying their counterpart on street hoops pretty hard in the first half. in particular, decimate and shrugger were winning every scrappy team fight with tons of cleanup kills. however, there were tons of situations that elevate should've rolled to like last where the pyro totally killed their momentum and they ended up just trading mid over and over again because they didnt have enough dps and chasing potential to push their advantages. they ended up winning the half 3-1, but rather than doing so fast and dominantly, which they should have given how they were playing individually, it took a fucking year. in the second half street hoops got their shit together and elevate was cooled off because they didnt get to carry their momentum.
on top of all that, the heal spread was fucking ridiculous. ma3la got more heals than his demo and either of his scouts by far, meanwhile alfa got like 1000 less than grape. given that most of these people were still with the combo it just meant a lot of sitting around and not doing anything rather than flank plays. compare that to ash, who took almost no heals (which he always does well) and yet outdamaged ma3la by a mile.
to be fair ma3la hogs heals on soldier too, either that or alfa just dies a lot idk, but something aint right there
if bdonski isnt getting to +forward with 260 elevate will prolly not beat good teams
TheFragilemustardoverlordmustardoverlorddid tagg really just say that ma3la on pyro was the reason elevate was winning at first l0l
to clarify, ma3la on full time pyro completely fucked his team over
Don't think you if Tagg had that kind of analysis, he would have a legitimate reason? Like, maybe he was actually right?
what if I don't think tagg's analysis is very good? i dont give a fuck if you dont agree, its nowhere close to, say, b4nny's analysis
[quote=Knuckles_]I just feel bad for decimate. At one point ma3la was on pyro playing near the combo, alfa was running shotgun and taking a lot of the ubers, shrugger plays a pretty heal heavy scout, and bdonski was.. Honestly I don't know but still. Decimate was the only one ACTUALLY pushing the flank[/quote]
these two points combined sum up my feelings.
when I was watching the game, it was clear that almost everyone on elevate was outplaying their counterpart on street hoops pretty hard in the first half. in particular, decimate and shrugger were winning every scrappy team fight with tons of cleanup kills. however, there were tons of situations that elevate should've rolled to like last where the pyro totally killed their momentum and they ended up just trading mid over and over again because they didnt have enough dps and chasing potential to push their advantages. they ended up winning the half 3-1, but rather than doing so fast and dominantly, which they should have given how they were playing individually, it took a fucking year. in the second half street hoops got their shit together and elevate was cooled off because they didnt get to carry their momentum.
on top of all that, the heal spread was fucking ridiculous. ma3la got more heals than his demo and either of his scouts by far, meanwhile alfa got like 1000 less than grape. given that most of these people were still with the combo it just meant a lot of sitting around and not doing anything rather than flank plays. compare that to ash, who took almost no heals (which he always does well) and yet outdamaged ma3la by a mile.
to be fair ma3la hogs heals on soldier too, either that or alfa just dies a lot idk, but something aint right there
if bdonski isnt getting to +forward with 260 elevate will prolly not beat good teams
[quote=TheFragile][quote=mustardoverlord][quote=mustardoverlord]did tagg really just say that ma3la on pyro was the reason elevate was winning at first l0l[/quote]
to clarify, ma3la on full time pyro completely fucked his team over[/quote]
Don't think you if Tagg had that kind of analysis, he would have a legitimate reason? Like, maybe he was actually right?[/quote]
what if I don't think tagg's analysis is very good? i dont give a fuck if you dont agree, its nowhere close to, say, b4nny's analysis
If elevate wants to play with a pyro they will, if they feel like it isn't working I'm sure they're smart enough to change what they're doing.
mustardoverlordwhat if I don't think tagg's analysis is very good? i dont give a fuck if you dont agree, its nowhere close to, say, b4nny's analysis
I said that in more of a sense that people would take tagg's word over your word. No need to get all hostile over me disagreeing with you.
ScilliantIf elevate wants to play with a pyro they will, if they feel like it isn't working I'm sure they're smart enough to change what they're doing.
this.
I said that in more of a sense that people would take tagg's word over your word. No need to get all hostile over me disagreeing with you.
[quote=Scilliant]If elevate wants to play with a pyro they will, if they feel like it isn't working I'm sure they're smart enough to change what they're doing.[/quote]
this.