item whitelists and class limits would be pretty swell; cap heavy, engi, pyro, spy, sniper and demo

this is the current competitive maplist

http://i.imgur.com/dOopclm.png

this is the exact maplist you want if you want an empty server 24/7 that people on here would LOVE to play on

yeah personally im really partial to koth maps, i think they play really well in pubs

if they could jsut clone skial badwater like 4 times i'd be happy

Aren't you also one of the guys in charge of Xero Error?

Incoporate the HL maplist like Upward and stuff, those work well in pubs

idk how casual players feel about random damage spread, but that is the number one thing that drives me crazy in pubs

i don't care about random critical hits as much as having consistent damage numbers

it's so weird charging up a shot and dealing a ranged number as sniper, which makes it a diceroll if you can kill someone with a headshot + bodyshot

the standard valve rotation maps are cp_granary, cp_dustbowl, cp_gullywash_final1, cp_gravelpit, cp_yukon_final, cp_snakewater_final1, cp_badlands, cp_fastlane, cp_dustbowl, cp_well (do not add this), cp_coldfront (there's updated versions of this called warmfront, but casual players would never pub on it), cp_standin (do not put this on your servers), ctf_2fort, ctf_well (do NOT add this), pl_goldrush, pl_badwater, pl_upward

i pub a lot and often look for servers that are on snakewater, gullywash, badlands, or granary, but there's rarely any active servers that stay on capture point rotations

i'd turn off random crits and damage spread, but idk how many pubbers like those options, there's not many servers that run those cvars

i think the most important thing is having active admins and having players actually playing because a lot of servers like star_'s east coast server are plagued by hackers, which basically automatically kills the server since there's only 1-2 active server moderators

^ you forgot cp_process_final but that's actually a really solid pub map rotation

Yes. I ended it a while ago though.

payload maps usually are pretty fun to play in pubs. cp and koth is a bit boring if the people don't know how to play it but theres always action in payload.