tf2c admins are the type of niggas to play pyro, heavy, spy in mge did u expect anything better from them??

Yeah the admins seem to be really inconsistent with their rules. If you are a well known player or a donator you can basically get away with anything.

It's so fucking insane that a constructive thread about the rules could get me penalized without playing a single game. It seems like this mod team is on such a power trip that any sort of criticism is construed as a personal attack.

To me, it seems like a waste of time to even try this if the mod/admin team are a bunch of unhelpful dipshits.

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Can someone explain to me why we don't just pitch for an HL portion of TF2pug.me? #tf2mix and tf2pugme pugs always have a huge quality step above tf2center. Why do serious players even bother with lobbies?

Played an advanced lobby yesterday. It was a 2-2 game.
Didn't realize it scrambled teams, it's pretty cool.

That would be great for people who want to play highlander. If you can't dealt with Tf2Center 6s you can always go play pugs, but as far as I know there are no real highlander pugs anymore.

Mackey applied and they basically told him to fuck off.

edit: Looks like they deleted the post.

I just talked to masternoob and he put me through into advanced lobbies. He was very reasonable about it. I think he could do well to look into some of the people he has put in power but at least he was pretty good about it

Yeah, I mean sometimes the admins will get really defensive if you word a suggestion as a criticism (it seems they aren't keen on that). However, some of their admin team are real gem's. Take a look at their ban forum and look at how much garbage they have to deal with on a daily basis. Honestly most bans are quite fair. I think the admin team just needs a consistent way of handling interactions with players so that they can take their own opinions out of the formula.

That's exactly what I said in the thread I made, which they locked.

I like the concept but so far, 2/3 of the advanced lobbies I have been in, were NOT scrambled properly.

Here is the latest one: http://i.imgur.com/86MbweG.png

Look at the teams. I already knew something didn't seem right to begin with, we have 19 stars on blue, vs 14 stars on red.

Complete and total roll: http://logs.tf/888502?highlight=76561197978308259

Also can we ban full time sniping in 6's advanced lobbies?

it was viaduct lol

Why? it worked for his team

yeah just dont do 6s lobbies with barycenter and youre golden

Why? Because most pug groups ban fulltime sniping, and pugme does also. It takes the fun out of the game.

Yes I know on viaduct sniper is played more often than other 6's maps, but my statement was a general statement.

I like the pugme rule about offclassing being limited to 20% of the game.

slayer u play lobbies with dbz and he fulltime snipes all the time idk if ur in a position to complain about it

both of the things you're complaining about (stacking and fulltime sniping) are things that you/your friends do nightly so don't be a hypocrite

dbz plays scout when i play lobbies w/ him

he does if it's close but if it's a roll he'll just fulltime snipe which is exactly what bary did

+ like saam said it's via if there's any map that you can fulltime snipe without being an asshat it's that map

Deployed some fixes this morning: http://tf2center.com/changelog#2015-06-24

yeah true my bad

First off, dbz generally snipes about half the game. But if you ask him to, he will play scout if you need help on the flanks.

Secondly, this is a completely different situation. These are advanced lobbies. Things are totally different. No more team stacking, and I would hope that troll off classing will not be a part of advanced lobbies. I'm fine with a bit of offclassing, and in fact hate it when pugs 100% ban all off classing. But fulltime sniper gets old after a while. Same with full time spy, pyro and heavy in 6's. I would hope that at the very least an offclassing rule can be made so you can't offclass more than 50% of the game. Or perhaps a lower percentage. It also some-what throws off the balancing of the teams. Lets say someone is a poorly rated 1 star soldier. They select roamer, then off class to sniper/heavy/pyro. That would make the teams more unbalanced.

Lastly, you can accuse me of stacking in standard lobbies all you want. However, most of the time I just simply want to play with my friends and hang out in mumble, and my friends happen to be better than the average lobbyer. With advanced lobbies its different and teams should generally be pretty balanced. I was simply pointing out that the balancing system is currently some-what broken. Just played another lobby where the opposite team had a 3 star advantage over us. The first lobby I ever played was an HL and it was 29 to 29 stars and was one of the best/closest HL games I've played on center. Was 2-2 on viaduct with seconds left on the timer.

Sure, sniping on viaduct is considered more "acceptable," however I also mentioned that my statement was a generalized statement and not referring to any specific map.

Great thanks! I see that 6v6 balancing should have been fixed, look forward to trying it out more!

Also I'm curious about how advanced the balancing system works. Ideally one team wouldn't get two top tier scouts and one team gets two low tier scouts, and the same goes with soldiers. Does it do any class balancing or just overall team balancing?

Just wanted to mention that the balancing system at least for 6's still isn't balancing the stars properly:

A game from about 2 hours ago: http://i.imgur.com/ltxDemM.png

21 Star team (Blue) vs 25 Star team (Red).

From what I understand the stars aren't how it's balanced. The stars are a mix of your league experience and your TF2 player ranking, but the auto balancer is just player rankings.

At least, this is how one of the TF2C admins explained it

why isn't r.ghost a 5 star scout
why isn't mahh a 5 star medic

Interesting... I guess a little more clarification from the TF2C admins about the star system would be helpful...

For me personally I'm the most stars on the 3 classes that I have the highest ranking on the tf2 player ranking site, and lower stars on my other classes with lower rankings on that site. For me I see a direct correlation between stars and ranking on that site. I did hear someone mention that they gave players with league experience an extra star.

i definitely think tf2 hours played have something to do with it as well unless i'm getting stars based on playing in ugc + esea

i'm ranked on several classes i have NEVER played outside of pubs
i'm like 3-4 stars across the board

also i had some really good games this morning my first time playing, but they took about 3-5 times longer than a normal center to start

Wow you are right. You have never played several classes and you are ranked 3 stars on them. And some classes that you have played a couple times, you shouldn't have enough data to rank. So my assumption is that they give you 3 stars for plat experience or something....

You get some stars for the division and the rest you must work for.