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Looking at these keyboards - any other suggestions
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Planning on saving up for a mechanical keyboard this summer so I can go to GXL with a decent keyboard (And not suck video games).

I'm looking for a full keyboard, arrow keys, numpad and all. I plan to use this for work and play, so to say. Ideally, if I can, a backlit would be nice. The one thing that made playing on my laptop tolerable, was having backlit keys.

Budget isn't a huge concern since I'm still feeling out what I like and don't like. I know from trying out some in the past that I cannot type to save my life on any Razer keyboard. I went and tried some keyboards at a store today. I found that I liked the Cherry MX Brown switches the most.

Here are some that I like:

Corsair K70 RGB (The most expensive, but also available without LED back lighting for less)
- Comes with a removable wrist rest. I hear Corsair's drivers are bad. I'll assume it's like navigating UGC's website.

Das Keyboard Model S (The store I was at did not have any models with brown switches.)

Cooler Master Quickfire XT

Those are the three off-hand I like. Do any of you have recommendations? Comments?

Planning on saving up for a mechanical keyboard this summer so I can go to GXL with a decent keyboard (And not suck video games).

I'm looking for a full keyboard, arrow keys, numpad and all. I plan to use this for work and play, so to say. Ideally, if I can, a backlit would be nice. The one thing that made playing on my laptop tolerable, was having backlit keys.

Budget isn't a huge concern since I'm still feeling out what I like and don't like. I know from trying out some in the past that I cannot type to save my life on any Razer keyboard. I went and tried some keyboards at a store today. I found that I liked the Cherry MX Brown switches the most.

Here are some that I like:

Corsair K70 RGB (The most expensive, but also available without LED back lighting for less)
- Comes with a removable wrist rest. I hear Corsair's drivers are bad. [s]I'll assume it's like navigating UGC's website.[/s]

Das Keyboard Model S (The store I was at did not have any models with brown switches.)

Cooler Master Quickfire XT

Those are the three off-hand I like. Do any of you have recommendations? Comments?
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I have the K70 RGB and it works great. When it first came out, the drivers were awful but they have fixed all issues now and so far, smooth sailing

I have the K70 RGB and it works great. When it first came out, the drivers were awful but they have fixed all issues now and so far, smooth sailing
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I have a corsair k70 with MX cherry red switches and red LED backlight. It's definitely a great pickup

I have a corsair k70 with MX cherry red switches and red LED backlight. It's definitely a great pickup
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I have never heard anything negative about the k70

I have never heard anything negative about the k70
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i've heard a lot about backlight failure with the k70

i've heard a lot about backlight failure with the k70
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i have the quickfire compact w/ browns and i love it. never had a single issue, aside from getting used to the numpad being multi function :<

travels well, been to several lans/moved with it and its gotten banged around, all the diff backlight settings still work and all that good shit, no dead/sticky keys after 2 years, etc

i have the quickfire compact w/ browns and i love it. never had a single issue, aside from getting used to the numpad being multi function :<

travels well, been to several lans/moved with it and its gotten banged around, all the diff backlight settings still work and all that good shit, no dead/sticky keys after 2 years, etc
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i always thought the k70 was extremely pricey for a standard mechanical keyboard with regular cherry switches

i always thought the k70 was extremely pricey for a standard mechanical keyboard with regular cherry switches
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I can definitely recommend the quickfire

Any particular reason why you want the numpad? Because I my experience it is far more comfortable and saves on space if I don't have it.

There are totally reasons to have numpads too though but that's just my 2 cents

I can definitely recommend the quickfire

Any particular reason why you want the numpad? Because I my experience it is far more comfortable and saves on space if I don't have it.

There are totally reasons to have numpads too though but that's just my 2 cents
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Ducky shine hits all your points. If you consider it I would just go for a shine 3 and not a 4.

I owned 2 Cooler master keyboards with brown switches and both had very different feels to them. Had a trigger at first which is full sized and backlit but it felt terrible. The Quickfire I own feels perfectly fine though, so maybe take the brand with caution.

Also, you can buy mechanical numpads so maybe consider buying one of them and a TKL keyboard (this would make travelling with it way easier if you don't need the numpad).

Ducky shine hits all your points. If you consider it I would just go for a shine 3 and not a 4.

I owned 2 Cooler master keyboards with brown switches and both had very different feels to them. Had a trigger at first which is full sized and backlit but it felt terrible. The Quickfire I own feels perfectly fine though, so maybe take the brand with caution.

Also, you can buy mechanical numpads so maybe consider buying one of them and a TKL keyboard (this would make travelling with it way easier if you don't need the numpad).
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Either a Ducky Shine or a Ducky Zero/Zero Shine Zone would be good. I have a zero and a zero shine zone and both are great.

Either a Ducky Shine or a Ducky Zero/Zero Shine Zone would be good. I have a zero and a zero shine zone and both are great.
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nvm

nvm
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There is a Quickfire model where the arrow keys are merged with the number pad, which reduces space. The keyboard length is between a no-numpad and a yes-numpad, and it is great: easy to use and to travel with.

There is a Quickfire model where the arrow keys are merged with the number pad, which reduces space. The keyboard length is between a no-numpad and a yes-numpad, and it is great: easy to use and to travel with.
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ammo888There is a Quickfire model where the arrow keys are merged with the number pad, which reduces space. The keyboard length is between a no-numpad and a yes-numpad, and it is great: easy to use and to travel with.

Are you referring to the quickfire tk, or?

[quote=ammo888]There is a Quickfire model where the arrow keys are merged with the number pad, which reduces space. The keyboard length is between a no-numpad and a yes-numpad, and it is great: easy to use and to travel with.[/quote]

Are you referring to the quickfire tk, or?
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I have heard that the k70 has a lot of key ghosting if you are a very quick button presser. If you really care about colors and backlight that much then it might be a good option.

The model S is a very expensive keyboard, while nothing is really bad about it, its a bit pricey for what you get.

Haven't gotten any negative feedback about any of the CM keyboards that I have ever reccomended, and the XT seems to fit in there pretty well.

If you haven't looked into ducky keyboards, I would recommend it.

I have heard that the k70 has a lot of key ghosting if you are a very quick button presser. If you really care about colors and backlight that much then it might be a good option.

The model S is a very expensive keyboard, while nothing is really bad about it, its a bit pricey for what you get.

Haven't gotten any negative feedback about any of the CM keyboards that I have ever reccomended, and the XT seems to fit in there pretty well.

If you haven't looked into ducky keyboards, I would recommend it.
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I have a ducky shine 3 with brown switches which is also tenkeyless.

I have no complaints about it except that one of the legs is a bit slippery so i use it without those flipped up. Definitely recommend it though a bit pricey I guess.

I have a ducky shine 3 with brown switches which is also tenkeyless.

I have no complaints about it except that one of the legs is a bit slippery so i use it without those flipped up. Definitely recommend it though a bit pricey I guess.
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Looked up Ducky keyboards. Amazon.ca didn't have any available, and Amazon.com's prices seem a little bit out of my price range (Canadian-American dollar factor).

Someone suggested Logitech G710+ to me. Not too sure on that one.

I'm leaning towards the Corsair, but I think I'd order the non-RGB K70 because it's ~$40 cheaper and comes with the WASD key caps.

Looked up Ducky keyboards. Amazon.ca didn't have any available, and Amazon.com's prices seem a little bit out of my price range (Canadian-American dollar factor).

Someone suggested Logitech G710+ to me. Not too sure on that one.

I'm leaning towards the Corsair, but I think I'd order the non-RGB K70 because it's ~$40 cheaper and comes with the WASD key caps.
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PhunkAny particular reason why you want the numpad? Because I my experience it is far more comfortable and saves on space if I don't have it.

There are totally reasons to have numpads too though but that's just my 2 cents

I'm obviously not OP, but when scripting in tf2 it's nice to have a bunch of extra out-of-the-way keys to load certain configs for stuff I wouldn't want to manually type into the console, but I also don't want to hit accidentally, like viewmodel toggles and hud_reloadscheme

[quote=Phunk]Any particular reason why you want the numpad? Because I my experience it is far more comfortable and saves on space if I don't have it.

There are totally reasons to have numpads too though but that's just my 2 cents[/quote]
I'm obviously not OP, but when scripting in tf2 it's nice to have a bunch of extra out-of-the-way keys to load certain configs for stuff I wouldn't want to manually type into the console, but I also don't want to hit accidentally, like viewmodel toggles and hud_reloadscheme
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I have a k90 and my only complaint is that it's too big, my own fault when I first bought it, should have got the k60 or the k70. I love this keyboard tho, and the red switches definitely feel good, wrist wrest is very comfortable and the drivers aren't too bad it seems.

I have a k90 and my only complaint is that it's too big, my own fault when I first bought it, should have got the k60 or the k70. I love this keyboard tho, and the red switches definitely feel good, wrist wrest is very comfortable and the drivers aren't too bad it seems.
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PAPASTAINPhunkAny particular reason why you want the numpad? Because I my experience it is far more comfortable and saves on space if I don't have it.

There are totally reasons to have numpads too though but that's just my 2 cents
I'm obviously not OP, but when scripting in tf2 it's nice to have a bunch of extra out-of-the-way keys to load certain configs for stuff I wouldn't want to manually type into the console, but I also don't want to hit accidentally, like viewmodel toggles and hud_reloadscheme

I didn't answer the question initially because I wasn't really sure how to phrase it.

My current TF2 configs don't utilize a numpad because I try to keep the configs on my laptop and desktop as similar as possible. (I am playing mostly on my dekstop now, but still occasionally use my laptop)

That being said, programs I use frequently such as After Effects have shorcuts on the numpad that are incredibly useful, and not easy to change to other keys. A numpad would also allow me to bind my Razer mouse to those numbers (I use a Naga Hex) and make room for shortcuts on the other numbers, easier for my left hand to reach.

Basically, while I don't use a numpad specifically for TF2, I do have other programs and places I can use it, and would prefer to.

[quote=PAPASTAIN][quote=Phunk]Any particular reason why you want the numpad? Because I my experience it is far more comfortable and saves on space if I don't have it.

There are totally reasons to have numpads too though but that's just my 2 cents[/quote]
I'm obviously not OP, but when scripting in tf2 it's nice to have a bunch of extra out-of-the-way keys to load certain configs for stuff I wouldn't want to manually type into the console, but I also don't want to hit accidentally, like viewmodel toggles and hud_reloadscheme[/quote]


I didn't answer the question initially because I wasn't really sure how to phrase it.

My current TF2 configs don't utilize a numpad because I try to keep the configs on my laptop and desktop as similar as possible. (I am playing mostly on my dekstop now, but still occasionally use my laptop)

That being said, programs I use frequently such as After Effects have shorcuts on the numpad that are incredibly useful, and not easy to change to other keys. A numpad would also allow me to bind my Razer mouse to those numbers (I use a Naga Hex) and make room for shortcuts on the other numbers, easier for my left hand to reach.

Basically, while I don't use a numpad specifically for TF2, I do have other programs and places I can use it, and would prefer to.
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HidiLooked up Ducky keyboards. Amazon.ca didn't have any available, and Amazon.com's prices seem a little bit out of my price range (Canadian-American dollar factor).

NCIX is probably your best bet for getting a ducky in Canada.

[quote=Hidi]Looked up Ducky keyboards. Amazon.ca didn't have any available, and Amazon.com's prices seem a little bit out of my price range (Canadian-American dollar factor).[/quote]
NCIX is probably your best bet for getting a ducky in Canada.
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Damn, that's really close to where I'm taking summer courses I'll have to go there at lunch.

Damn, that's really close to where I'm taking summer courses I'll have to go there at lunch.
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After trying out my sibling's ducky, I am sad i settled on a cheaper mechanical

After trying out my sibling's ducky, I am sad i settled on a cheaper mechanical
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Oh I didn't actually realize NCIX had retail locations lol
Not sure what the actual stores are like but the online store has a pretty good selection of duckys if the retail location doesn't.

PS Lemme know how the store is, I might go check out the one in my city if it's good. Pretty far for me though

Oh I didn't actually realize NCIX had retail locations lol
Not sure what the actual stores are like but the online store has a pretty good selection of duckys if the retail location doesn't.

PS Lemme know how the store is, I might go check out the one in my city if it's good. Pretty far for me though
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Doesn't seem likely they'll have Duckys in stock, but it's worth a try. I'd personally like to try one.

Doesn't seem likely they'll have Duckys in stock, but it's worth a try. I'd personally like to try one.
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I would opt with a Cooler Master Tenkeyless, just because that means more space for your mouse.

If you want the numpad, I would recommend the Ducky Zero or the Cooler Master you listed.

I would opt with a Cooler Master Tenkeyless, just because that means more space for your mouse.

If you want the numpad, I would recommend the Ducky Zero or the Cooler Master you listed.
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flyingbuddyammo888There is a Quickfire model where the arrow keys are merged with the number pad, which reduces space. The keyboard length is between a no-numpad and a yes-numpad, and it is great: easy to use and to travel with.
Are you referring to the quickfire tk, or?

Yeah the CM Storm Quickfire TK

[quote=flyingbuddy][quote=ammo888]There is a Quickfire model where the arrow keys are merged with the number pad, which reduces space. The keyboard length is between a no-numpad and a yes-numpad, and it is great: easy to use and to travel with.[/quote]

Are you referring to the quickfire tk, or?[/quote]

Yeah the [url=http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-QuickFire-TK-Mechanical/dp/B00A378L4C?tag=teamfortresst-20]CM Storm Quickfire TK[/url]
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I've got a Ducky DK9008G2 with Greens and it's the best keyboard I've ever had. I've sunk $200 into it but...

I've got a Ducky DK9008G2 with Greens and it's the best keyboard I've ever had. I've sunk $200 into it but...
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Out of the ones you posted in your OP, the daskeyboard is the best.

I'd still recommenced a Ducky over it if you're going for a full-size.

Another option would be to hit up geekhack.org (if you aren't shy about used boards; all the feedback I've heard about geekhack classifieds has been positive) and check out their classifieds. You can usually find a Filco Majestouch on there for about 80 USD.

Filco, Ducky, and Leopold are all really solid and you won't go wrong with any of those. There are other brands too, but the moral of the story here (there are like 2 exceptions to this) is keyboard brand >>>>>>> gaming brand. A lot of people might tell you otherwise, but I'd wager that most of them haven't used many mechanical boards, as even the feel of switches will differ from brand to brand, and that's not taking into account stabilizers, mounting, lube, backplates, casing, and whole mess of factors that change the feel and quality of a keyboard. All MX brown boards are not created equal.

If you feel like being an educated consumer, geekhack.org has a plethora of keyboard information from people that take keyboards as seriously as this forum takes tf2.

Edit: obviously you're not going to play better because you chose one brand over the other. It's a matter of quality and feel - if you're paying for a high end keyboard, you might as well get a high end keyboard - not some cheaply made, heavily marketed impostor that glows in the dark.

Out of the ones you posted in your OP, the daskeyboard is the best.

I'd still recommenced a Ducky over it if you're going for a full-size.

Another option would be to hit up geekhack.org (if you aren't shy about used boards; all the feedback I've heard about geekhack classifieds has been positive) and check out their classifieds. You can usually find a Filco Majestouch on there for about 80 USD.

Filco, Ducky, and Leopold are all really solid and you won't go wrong with any of those. There are other brands too, but the moral of the story here (there are like 2 exceptions to this) is keyboard brand >>>>>>> gaming brand. A lot of people might tell you otherwise, but I'd wager that most of them haven't used many mechanical boards, as even the feel of switches will differ from brand to brand, and that's not taking into account stabilizers, mounting, lube, backplates, casing, and whole mess of factors that change the feel and quality of a keyboard. All MX brown boards are not created equal.

If you feel like being an educated consumer, geekhack.org has a plethora of keyboard information from people that take keyboards as seriously as this forum takes tf2.

Edit: obviously you're not going to play better because you chose one brand over the other. It's a matter of quality and feel - if you're paying for a high end keyboard, you might as well get a high end keyboard - not some cheaply made, heavily marketed impostor that glows in the dark.
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I really don't know too much about keyboards to be honest but by my experience this keyboard is awesome. My friend got me this Logitech G710 plus, mechanical, separate brightness lights for the arrow keys, wasd and the other keys. Apparently you love Cherry MX brown keys :D this keyboard has them.

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Mechanical-Keyboard-Tactile-High-Speed/dp/B009C98NPY

I really don't know too much about keyboards to be honest but by my experience this keyboard is awesome. My friend got me this Logitech G710 plus, mechanical, separate brightness lights for the arrow keys, wasd and the other keys. Apparently you love Cherry MX brown keys :D this keyboard has them.

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Mechanical-Keyboard-Tactile-High-Speed/dp/B009C98NPY?tag=teamfortresst-20
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