to be honest this was a shit thread to begin with. its heart is in the right place, and i agree with the sentiment, but when one of your two solutions is "tf2c isn't serious enough and here is my solution: start playing more seriously, please!" then maybe the thread isn't worth making. cook up some actual solutions or at least open it up for discussion (e.g. "What can be done about players who don't try in lobbies and make comp tf2 seem like a joke?")
but it was made even worse by the personal attacks against smobo being followed up with accusations of him derailing the topic. newsflash, he only posted 3 times. meanwhile, there are a total of 16 posts (more than half of the ones in the topic so far) that are doing nothing but unnecessary shitposting. it's not like gargle shutting him down right off the bat and the swarm of -frags was enough to move on with the discussion; a bunch of other people had to pile on and further derail the topic. and i can't forget to mention the dude who's on a fuckin' competitive video gaming forum and is shitting on smobo for playing tf2 too much; like really man? lmao
i'm not even trying to defend smobo through and through because his initial post wasn't entirely necessary imo, but don't sit here and condemn him of not contributing to the topic when most people itt did nothing but drop a single post shitting on smobo then peacing out. yeah, we get it guys, tftv hates ugc and its admins. half of a topic of shitposting about it isn't called for.
also the aliases gargle has used are genuinely not okay, esp since he's sitting here asking what can be done for people to take tf2c more seriously. don't even pretend that's worth defending.
to be honest this was a shit thread to begin with. its heart is in the right place, and i agree with the sentiment, but when one of your two solutions is "tf2c isn't serious enough and here is my solution: start playing more seriously, please!" then maybe the thread isn't worth making. cook up some actual solutions or at least open it up for discussion (e.g. "What can be done about players who don't try in lobbies and make comp tf2 seem like a joke?")
but it was made even worse by the personal attacks against smobo being followed up with accusations of him derailing the topic. newsflash, he only posted 3 times. meanwhile, there are a total of 16 posts (more than half of the ones in the topic so far) that are doing nothing but unnecessary shitposting. it's not like gargle shutting him down right off the bat and the swarm of -frags was enough to move on with the discussion; a bunch of other people had to pile on and further derail the topic. and i can't forget to mention the dude who's on a fuckin' [b]competitive video gaming forum[/b] and is shitting on smobo for playing tf2 too much; like really man? lmao
i'm not even trying to defend smobo through and through because his initial post wasn't entirely necessary imo, but don't sit here and condemn him of not contributing to the topic when most people itt did nothing but drop a single post shitting on smobo then peacing out. yeah, we get it guys, tftv hates ugc and its admins. half of a topic of shitposting about it isn't called for.
also the aliases gargle has used are genuinely not okay, esp since he's sitting here asking what can be done for people to take tf2c more seriously. don't even pretend that's worth defending.
Some people have the mentality that "its just a lobby" so they are free to throw the game. I wouldn't oppose some kind of rules for silly excessive off classing, but I think it would be difficult to enforce.
Some people have the mentality that "its just a lobby" so they are free to throw the game. I wouldn't oppose some kind of rules for silly excessive off classing, but I think it would be difficult to enforce.
smobo made 3 posts but lets be real they were like exceptionally shit
aim dreams of being able to make posts that bad
smobo made 3 posts but lets be real they were like exceptionally shit
aim dreams of being able to make posts that bad
obe_then maybe the thread isn't worth making. cook up some actual solutions or at least open it up for discussion (e.g. "What can be done about players who don't try in lobbies and make comp tf2 seem like a joke?")
I didn't say that "okay these are the only solutions", I was just simply giving some of the ideas that I had to resolve the situation. The thread was meant to open up the situation in the first place (and id still like input on it).
obe_also the aliases gargle has used are genuinely not okay, esp since he's sitting here asking what can be done for people to take tf2c more seriously. don't even pretend that's worth defending.
The aliases I use aren't meant to personally offend anyone. In fact, anyone that has ever asked me to change my alias because they think its offensive I've never said no, in any game. My aliases are simply crude humor, the type of humor that you'd get out of watching south park or family guy.
Also your post is just derailing the topic of the thread even farther
[quote=obe_]then maybe the thread isn't worth making. cook up some actual solutions or at least open it up for discussion (e.g. "What can be done about players who don't try in lobbies and make comp tf2 seem like a joke?")[/quote]
I didn't say that "okay these are the only solutions", I was just simply giving some of the ideas that I had to resolve the situation. The thread was meant to open up the situation in the first place (and id still like input on it).
[quote=obe_]also the aliases gargle has used are genuinely not okay, esp since he's sitting here asking what can be done for people to take tf2c more seriously. don't even pretend that's worth defending.[/quote]
The aliases I use aren't meant to personally offend anyone. In fact, anyone that has ever asked me to change my alias because they think its offensive I've never said no, in any game. My aliases are simply crude humor, the type of humor that you'd get out of watching south park or family guy.
Also your post is just derailing the topic of the thread even farther
gargleburryThe aliases I use aren't meant to personally offend anyone. In fact, anyone that has ever asked me to change my alias because they think its offensive I've never said no, in any game. My aliases are simply crude humor, the type of humor that you'd get out of watching south park or family guy.
That's a really cowardly way to say that you shouldn't be called out for openly using racial slurs on your username, spamming them in chat and using them with the clear intent of offending people.
[quote=gargleburry]The aliases I use aren't meant to personally offend anyone. In fact, anyone that has ever asked me to change my alias because they think its offensive I've never said no, in any game. My aliases are simply crude humor, the type of humor that you'd get out of watching south park or family guy.[/quote]
That's a really cowardly way to say that you shouldn't be called out for openly using racial slurs on your username, [url=http://i.imgur.com/lBD87c3.png]spamming them in chat and using them with the clear intent of offending people.[/url]
LyreixgargleburryThe aliases I use aren't meant to personally offend anyone. In fact, anyone that has ever asked me to change my alias because they think its offensive I've never said no, in any game. My aliases are simply crude humor, the type of humor that you'd get out of watching south park or family guy.
That's a really cowardly way to say that you shouldn't be called out for openly using racial slurs on your username, spamming them in chat and using them with the clear intent of offending people.
i was probably high out of my mind at the time because I don't remember this at all(if you want proof, ask anyone in that mumble at the time how pleasant I was), take it as you wish though.
I'm not going to comment on the thread until someone actually gets on topic because I've only seen 4-5 posts that aren't about my aliases or about smobo's admining
[quote=Lyreix][quote=gargleburry]The aliases I use aren't meant to personally offend anyone. In fact, anyone that has ever asked me to change my alias because they think its offensive I've never said no, in any game. My aliases are simply crude humor, the type of humor that you'd get out of watching south park or family guy.[/quote]
That's a really cowardly way to say that you shouldn't be called out for openly using racial slurs on your username, [url=http://i.imgur.com/lBD87c3.png]spamming them in chat and using them with the clear intent of offending people.[/url][/quote]
i was probably high out of my mind at the time because I don't remember this at all(if you want proof, ask anyone in that mumble at the time how pleasant I was), take it as you wish though.
I'm not going to comment on the thread until someone actually gets on topic because I've only seen 4-5 posts that aren't about my aliases or about smobo's admining
This thread got derailed quickly.
Anyway, the point of the original post is a valid one, and while I agree asking people to step up and take lobbies a bit more seriously is unlikely to do anything there were some good points raised that are worth considering.
I think one of the more reasonable additions (to any lobby system, new or old) is the ability to create an extra "coach" slot on either/each team to allow a higher level player to offer guidance to teams (and to maybe make life easier for the amazing people that run the newbie mixes)
EDIT: suppose there is the potential to abuse or "troll" with the coach slot the same way you could with any of the other class slots, might be worth setting some requirements that are always in effect for a coach slot, or make those slots only open by invitation of the lobby maker... something to ensure that they are actually used the correct way (as much as possible)
This thread got derailed quickly.
Anyway, the point of the original post is a valid one, and while I agree asking people to step up and take lobbies a bit more seriously is unlikely to do anything there were some good points raised that are worth considering.
I think one of the more reasonable additions (to any lobby system, new or old) is the ability to create an extra "coach" slot on either/each team to allow a higher level player to offer guidance to teams (and to maybe make life easier for the amazing people that run the newbie mixes)
EDIT: suppose there is the potential to abuse or "troll" with the coach slot the same way you could with any of the other class slots, might be worth setting some requirements that are always in effect for a coach slot, or make those slots only open by invitation of the lobby maker... something to ensure that they are actually used the correct way (as much as possible)
TF2C admins and then this. Why can't all admins have a brain? That sucks pellovley. That admin is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. :o
TF2C admins and then this. Why can't all admins have a brain? That sucks pellovley. That admin is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. :o
smobohttp://i.imgur.com/eNkmnqV.png
maybe you should worry about yourself and the impact you're having before you try to change other people. Last I heard from you was when you were adding people to talk shit then complaining when they beat you and that they showed "bad manners" by literally quoting you
It is true gargleburry acts like a downie in mumble but he does try his best in lobbies
[quote=smobo][img]http://i.imgur.com/eNkmnqV.png[/img]
maybe you should worry about yourself and the impact you're having before you try to change other people. Last I heard from you was when you were adding people to talk shit then complaining when they beat you and that they showed "bad manners" by literally quoting you[/quote]
It is true gargleburry acts like a downie in mumble but he does try his best in lobbies
gargleburryi was probably high out of my mind at the time because I don't remember this at all
"HAHA I'M SO HIGH RIGHT NOW AHAHAHASHDH SHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH." DATS A MEATSHOT
[quote=gargleburry]i was probably high out of my mind at the time because I don't remember this at all[/quote]
[quote]"HAHA I'M SO HIGH RIGHT NOW AHAHAHASHDH SHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH." DATS A MEATSHOT[/quote]
With out going into to much detail this is one of the reasons me and Kevin joined in on the stadium project. There are plans in the future to get newbie mixes and coaching integrated.
With out going into to much detail this is one of the reasons me and Kevin joined in on the stadium project. There are plans in the future to get newbie mixes and coaching integrated.
Pellovleysmobohttp://i.imgur.com/eNkmnqV.png
maybe you should worry about yourself and the impact you're having before you try to change other people. Last I heard from you was when you were adding people to talk shit then complaining when they beat you and that they showed "bad manners" by literally quoting you
United Gaming Clans Admins
I'm all for hating ugc but you got banned because you're a shitposting bigot who contributes nothing ever. It wasn't that hard to figure that out.
[quote=Pellovley][quote=smobo][img]http://i.imgur.com/eNkmnqV.png[/img]
maybe you should worry about yourself and the impact you're having before you try to change other people. Last I heard from you was when you were adding people to talk shit then complaining when they beat you and that they showed "bad manners" by literally quoting you[/quote]
[url=http://pastebin.com/e87gAz3h]United Gaming Clans Admins[/url][/quote]
I'm all for hating ugc but you got banned because you're a shitposting bigot who contributes nothing ever. It wasn't that hard to figure that out.
Eh, coming from someone who has played a lot of lobbies/centers I can see both sides. tf2lobby and now tf2center has always been the site for "competitive format, but not as serious as pugs." There are legitimately people who play like retards because they find that style fun and not just at the expense of others. Stabby plays a lot of centers and he always ends up playing full-time spy towards the end of the game. Does he annoy the fuck out of everyone, including his own team? Yes. Is he doing it solely for that reason? No.
To be honest, advanced lobbies were a cool concept before that tf2c controversy came up and they basically scrapped them. I feel like there should be some niche relaxed ruleset way to pug and this shit you're talking about isn't new. tf2lobby had people fuck around with unlocks and offclasses for years. A lot of people did it.
The problem is that tf2center is a lot of people's introduction to competitive, which it probably shouldn't be. If you actually want to show people competitive, use newbie mixes. I would say this even if centers didn't have people dicking around because it's not a fun environment to get shit talked by your team all game because you're new and there's no matchmaking system to have you play with people your skill level.
As for people that are legitimate trolls and actively try to ruin games, kick them. Every game has assholes in the community and you're going to run into them.
Eh, coming from someone who has played a lot of lobbies/centers I can see both sides. tf2lobby and now tf2center has always been the site for "competitive format, but not as serious as pugs." There are legitimately people who play like retards because they find that style fun and not just at the expense of others. Stabby plays a lot of centers and he always ends up playing full-time spy towards the end of the game. Does he annoy the fuck out of everyone, including his own team? Yes. Is he doing it solely for that reason? No.
To be honest, advanced lobbies were a cool concept before that tf2c controversy came up and they basically scrapped them. I feel like there should be some niche relaxed ruleset way to pug and this shit you're talking about isn't new. tf2lobby had people fuck around with unlocks and offclasses for years. [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v412W1CdGrA]A lot of people did it.[/url]
The problem is that tf2center is a lot of people's introduction to competitive, which it probably shouldn't be. If you actually want to show people competitive, use newbie mixes. I would say this even if centers didn't have people dicking around because it's not a fun environment to get shit talked by your team all game because you're new and there's no matchmaking system to have you play with people your skill level.
As for people that are legitimate trolls and actively try to ruin games, kick them. Every game has assholes in the community and you're going to run into them.
i usually take centers seriously and always try to give useful advice but there are always those players who troll when they arent winning. these people are usually bad but still better than the average tf2center player and think they deserve to win every game.
i usually take centers seriously and always try to give useful advice but there are always those players who troll when they arent winning. these people are usually bad but still better than the average tf2center player and think they deserve to win every game.
I actually stopped playing TF2center because of the skill level drop and trolling around by other players. The skill level never used to be this low.. but when you're on a team full of people who just don't have a clue, it just kills the whole fun for me. I have stopped playing since 2014.
Maybe adding different skill level lobbies would help. Like Easy/Medium/Advanced. And you have to play a certain about of lobbies to get into the other ones.
I actually stopped playing TF2center because of the skill level drop and trolling around by other players. The skill level never used to be this low.. but when you're on a team full of people who just don't have a clue, it just kills the whole fun for me. I have stopped playing since 2014.
Maybe adding different skill level lobbies would help. Like Easy/Medium/Advanced. And you have to play a certain about of lobbies to get into the other ones.
PellovleyUnited Gaming Clans Admins
Admittedly, my patience with trolls and toxic players has become thinner and thinner throughout the seasons. Out of your 15 most recent posts, 12 were deleted (the 15 could have been deleted). Some of them are posts with no value added and one of them is inciting a player to kill himself. Additionally, you have received 4 official warnings that you decided to ignore.
Why do you need to have access to your previous posts in order to understand what you did? Are all of your posts so poor in content that they become a fragment of your imagination the moment they're posted? I have trouble understanding why the ban comes as a surprise to you and why you act like you're innocent in this story.
[quote=Pellovley][url=http://pastebin.com/e87gAz3h]United Gaming Clans Admins[/url][/quote]
Admittedly, my patience with trolls and toxic players has become thinner and thinner throughout the seasons. Out of your 15 most recent posts, 12 were deleted (the 15 could have been deleted). Some of them are posts with no value added and one of them is inciting a player to kill himself. Additionally, you have received 4 official warnings that you decided to ignore.
Why do you need to have access to your previous posts in order to understand what you did? Are all of your posts so poor in content that they become a fragment of your imagination the moment they're posted? I have trouble understanding why the ban comes as a surprise to you and why you act like you're innocent in this story.
can we also stop the permanent 6s snipers
can we also stop the permanent 6s snipers
MamboulayPellovleyUnited Gaming Clans Admins
Admittedly, my patience with trolls and toxic players has become thinner and thinner throughout the seasons. Out of your 15 most recent posts, 12 were deleted (the 15 could have been deleted). Some of them are posts with no value added and one of them is inciting a player to kill himself. Additionally, you have received 4 official warnings that you decided to ignore.
Why do you need to have access to your previous posts in order to understand what you did? Are all of your posts so poor in content that they become a fragment of your imagination the moment they're posted? I have trouble understanding why the ban comes as a surprise to you and why you act like you're innocent in this story.
i know full well why i got banned and i deserved it 100%, i just thought it was funny how stupid and unprofessional you acted when i talked to you
[quote=Mamboulay][quote=Pellovley][url=http://pastebin.com/e87gAz3h]United Gaming Clans Admins[/url][/quote]
Admittedly, my patience with trolls and toxic players has become thinner and thinner throughout the seasons. Out of your 15 most recent posts, 12 were deleted (the 15 could have been deleted). Some of them are posts with no value added and one of them is inciting a player to kill himself. Additionally, you have received 4 official warnings that you decided to ignore.
Why do you need to have access to your previous posts in order to understand what you did? Are all of your posts so poor in content that they become a fragment of your imagination the moment they're posted? I have trouble understanding why the ban comes as a surprise to you and why you act like you're innocent in this story.[/quote]
i know full well why i got banned and i deserved it 100%, i just thought it was funny how stupid and unprofessional you acted when i talked to you
Pellovley
i know full well why i got banned and i deserved it 100%, i just thought it was funny how stupid and unprofessional you acted when i talked to you
So you intentionally baited Mamb into treating you like you were fucking dumb?
[quote=Pellovley]
i know full well why i got banned and i deserved it 100%, i just thought it was funny how stupid and unprofessional you acted when i talked to you[/quote]
So you intentionally baited Mamb into treating you like you were fucking dumb?
[img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ojs17h5kEus/TtsLu2IqYII/AAAAAAAAFjg/4xGgyLlLazA/s1600/holland-lop-rabbit.png[/img]
[quote=uberchain][img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ojs17h5kEus/TtsLu2IqYII/AAAAAAAAFjg/4xGgyLlLazA/s1600/holland-lop-rabbit.png[/img][/quote]
that's a cute rabbit
i played a center with u and u were calling all ur teammates shit because u were getting decimated by my and the boys and then u started bragging about how u play i.m..........
i played a center with u and u were calling all ur teammates shit because u were getting decimated by my and the boys and then u started bragging about how u play i.m..........
domelnatori played a center with u and u were calling all ur teammates shit because u were getting decimated by my and the boys and then u started bragging about how u play i.m..........
what, give me the logs to the lobby so i remember
also can we for real either close the thread, or get on topic rofl. Like why are people still talking about pellovleys ban?
[quote=domelnator]i played a center with u and u were calling all ur teammates shit because u were getting decimated by my and the boys and then u started bragging about how u play i.m..........[/quote]
what, give me the logs to the lobby so i remember
also can we for real either close the thread, or get on topic rofl. Like why are people still talking about pellovleys ban?
smobohttp://i.imgur.com/eNkmnqV.png
maybe you should worry about yourself and the impact you're having before you try to change other people. Last I heard from you was when you were adding people to talk shit then complaining when they beat you and that they showed "bad manners" by literally quoting you
you're a big retard
[quote=smobo][img]http://i.imgur.com/eNkmnqV.png[/img]
maybe you should worry about yourself and the impact you're having before you try to change other people. Last I heard from you was when you were adding people to talk shit then complaining when they beat you and that they showed "bad manners" by literally quoting you[/quote]
you're a big retard
gargleburryclose the thread
[quote=gargleburry]close the thread[/quote]
smobo said he would ban me from UGC at one point because I wasn't taking plat 6s seriously :\
smobo said he would ban me from UGC at one point because I wasn't taking plat 6s seriously :\
Edit: I just realized this was already talked about but I stopped reading after the first page. Disregard this post.
Edit: I just realized this was already talked about but I stopped reading after the first page. Disregard this post.
Summary:
- Smobo is an idiot.
- Pellovely is an idiot.
- Please do not act like Smobo or Pellovley when playing in lobbies, because you'll ruin it for everyone, you idiot.
[u]Summary:[/u]
- Smobo is an idiot.
- Pellovely is an idiot.
- Please do not act like Smobo or Pellovley when playing in lobbies, because you'll ruin it for everyone, you idiot.