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EXT PUGs Tournament
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#1
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Myself, Katie, Is hosting the first Extreme Tournament for TF2.

Extreme Tournament Presents The Winter Open Tournament

Upcoming: Winter Open Tournament

EDIT: TEAM SIGNUPS ARE NOW ALLOWED. PUG TEAMS ARE ALSO. IF YOU WISH TO BE ON A PUG TEAM, POST A THREAD IN THE DISCOUIN PAGE OF THE GROUP, AND GET SOMEONE TO LEAD YOUR TEAM. TEAMS APPLCIATIONS ON MAIN PAGE AS WELL.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/EXTTF2

Winter Open Tournament
- Anyone Can Play
-Takes place Saturday the 12th

12 Keys for 1st Place. 2 For ech player.
6 Keys for Second Place. 1 For Each player
24 Ref for Third palce. 4 Ref for reach 6 Keys for

We need a few more players!

Teams

Myself, Katie, Is hosting the first Extreme Tournament for TF2.
[b]
Extreme Tournament Presents The Winter Open Tournament
[/b]
Upcoming: Winter Open Tournament

EDIT: TEAM SIGNUPS ARE NOW ALLOWED. PUG TEAMS ARE ALSO. IF YOU WISH TO BE ON A PUG TEAM, POST A THREAD IN THE DISCOUIN PAGE OF THE GROUP, AND GET SOMEONE TO LEAD YOUR TEAM. TEAMS APPLCIATIONS ON MAIN PAGE AS WELL.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/EXTTF2

Winter Open Tournament
- Anyone Can Play
-Takes place Saturday the 12th

12 Keys for 1st Place. 2 For ech player.
6 Keys for Second Place. 1 For Each player
24 Ref for Third palce. 4 Ref for reach 6 Keys for

We need a few more players!

Teams
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#2
41 Frags +
Myself Is hosting4 Ref for reach 6 Keys forIntersted in playing! Comment I do in the comment!

https://41.media.tumblr.com/a89a0946f1b26b10018fa94d89d1e9ee/tumblr_inline_np6qgqgBrU1qm86ju_540.png

[quote]Myself Is hosting[/quote]

[quote]4 Ref for reach 6 Keys for[/quote]

[quote]Intersted in playing! Comment I do in the comment![/quote]

[img]https://41.media.tumblr.com/a89a0946f1b26b10018fa94d89d1e9ee/tumblr_inline_np6qgqgBrU1qm86ju_540.png[/img]
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newbie.tf
5 Frags +

Put me IN

Put me IN
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#4
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KevinIsPwnPut me IN

Added you, and invited you to the group

:)

[quote=KevinIsPwn]Put me IN[/quote]

Added you, and invited you to the group

:)
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#5
2 Frags +

I'm down to play.

I'm down to play.
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#6
3 Frags +

this is really cool katie

put me in please

this is really cool katie

put me in please
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#7
0 Frags +

why not, could be intresting

why not, could be intresting
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#8
0 Frags +

i want to kiLL

i want to kiLL
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#9
0 Frags +

Put me in

Put me in
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#10
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edit: misread a portion of the description

edit: misread a portion of the description
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#11
1 Frags +

Yo' I'm interested. Put me in.

Yo' I'm interested. Put me in.
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#12
0 Frags +

put me in tho (scout)

put me in tho (scout)
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#13
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i am down to play

i am down to play
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#14
-1 Frags +

i will play

i will play
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#15
0 Frags +

raze. med. im in.

raze. med. im in.
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#16
-2 Frags +

I do. Scout.

I do. Scout.
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#17
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gaming

gaming
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#18
0 Frags +

i do as scout

i do as scout
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#19
0 Frags +

Soldier here, add me up

Soldier here, add me up
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#20
1 Frags +

Demo please

Demo please
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#21
1 Frags +

I'm down. demo

I'm down. demo
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#22
-14 Frags +

Gee, I sure hope pug teams are stacked so that semi-washed up ESEA players don't take the title from aspiring UGC players.
I hope the event grows, and becomes a competitive tournament.

Gee, I sure hope pug teams are stacked so that semi-washed up ESEA players don't take the title from aspiring UGC players.
I hope the event grows, and becomes a competitive tournament.
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#23
3 Frags +

I'm all dressed up and have nowhere to go.
Sign me up for roamer/pocket plssss

I'm all dressed up and have nowhere to go.
Sign me up for roamer/pocket plssss
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#24
2 Frags +

im in yo. hmu roamer/pocket please

also my name is floyd not jellonarwhal 8)

im in yo. hmu roamer/pocket please

also my name is floyd not jellonarwhal 8)
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#25
-3 Frags +

will play!!!! lft fragging class!!

will play!!!! lft fragging class!!
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#26
-1 Frags +

bump. were taking teams applications!

bump. were taking teams applications!
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#27
21 Frags +

Okay. No. Just simply no. Absolutely not.

I /super/ appreciate the initiative and the effort. But have we learned nothing as a community about people with no tournament running experience or knowledge as to how to run a tournament doing it solo? Didn't we just have a dramatic clusterfuck of an invite only tournament that was plagued with problems largely stemming from an odd setup and an admin that, while well meaning, had no clue about the details that make a tournament tolerable?

Lets talk about format. Kevinispwn drew this up for me, which demonstrates how the matchups work in a bracket format http://i.imgur.com/cXiF64L.png

I am not certain, but I strongly suspect, that this bracket setup isn't even capable of proving who is best, we do standard double elimination format for a reason. It minimizes the games needed to be played to verify which teams are top 3. Just as a course of how to admin any tournament, but especially a tournament with prizes, it is VITALLY important to get it right.

If I am looking at things right and following logic correctly, it is possible to have to play 5 games in the tournament, while others will never have to play more than 2-3. The seeding is also completely off base. In addition, it appears that some second round matchups will be between two winners, others between a winner and a loser, others still don't even have a second round matchup at all. For reference, every team should always play a second game (in double elimination), and it should always be between winners or losers, never a mix. Every stage except the grand finals will have two teams going against each other who have exactly the same record.

The issue with things like this is that its not even hard to find people who know what they are doing with administrating a tournament. There are at least a handful that have direct experience, and almost anyone could tell you that the format is a little fuckey.

The good news is that we can fix this. Add me on steam, I can help you with seeds, setting up a proper bracket, and finding a way to make this a lot stronger of a tournament. Please don't take this the wrong way, you only really get one chance at making a good impression in this community and I want you to put your best foot forward. The best way to do that is to run a well organized first tournament.

Again, thank you for the initiative, add me and lets talk to make this as best it can be.

as a side note, I am on team Newbie Admins, my name is Drshdwpuppet, not Dr.ShwnPuppet, which is the best misspelling that has happened to me yet.

Okay. No. Just simply no. Absolutely not.

I /super/ appreciate the initiative and the effort. But have we learned nothing as a community about people with no tournament running experience or knowledge as to how to run a tournament doing it solo? Didn't we just have a dramatic clusterfuck of an invite only tournament that was plagued with problems largely stemming from an odd setup and an admin that, while well meaning, had no clue about the details that make a tournament tolerable?

Lets talk about format. Kevinispwn drew this up for me, which demonstrates how the matchups work in a bracket format http://i.imgur.com/cXiF64L.png

I am not certain, but I strongly suspect, that this bracket setup isn't even capable of proving who is best, we do standard double elimination format for a reason. It minimizes the games needed to be played to verify which teams are top 3. Just as a course of how to admin any tournament, but especially a tournament with prizes, it is VITALLY important to get it right.

If I am looking at things right and following logic correctly, it is possible to have to play 5 games in the tournament, while others will never have to play more than 2-3. The seeding is also completely off base. In addition, it appears that some second round matchups will be between two winners, others between a winner and a loser, others still don't even have a second round matchup at all. For reference, every team should always play a second game (in double elimination), and it should always be between winners or losers, never a mix. Every stage except the grand finals will have two teams going against each other who have exactly the same record.

The issue with things like this is that its not even hard to find people who know what they are doing with administrating a tournament. There are at least a handful that have direct experience, and almost anyone could tell you that the format is a little fuckey.

The good news is that we can fix this. Add me on steam, I can help you with seeds, setting up a proper bracket, and finding a way to make this a lot stronger of a tournament. Please don't take this the wrong way, you only really get one chance at making a good impression in this community and I want you to put your best foot forward. The best way to do that is to run a well organized first tournament.

Again, thank you for the initiative, add me and lets talk to make this as best it can be.

as a side note, I am on team Newbie Admins, my name is Drshdwpuppet, not Dr.ShwnPuppet, which is the best misspelling that has happened to me yet.
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#28
-1 Frags +

i'll play

i'll play
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#29
11 Frags +
drshdwpuppetstuff

just want you to look at this before helping http://www.teamfortress.tv/29878/new-pug-group/?page=3#74

[quote=drshdwpuppet]stuff[/quote]
just want you to look at this before helping http://www.teamfortress.tv/29878/new-pug-group/?page=3#74
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#30
15 Frags +
kounterpartsdrshdwpuppetstuffjust want you to look at this before helping http://www.teamfortress.tv/29878/new-pug-group/?page=3#74

I am mostly helping because I am playing and I don't want it to be a clusterfuck. I have to play because I already agreed to heal Kevinispwn and there isn't another medic in the world that would willingly do that.

[quote=kounterparts][quote=drshdwpuppet]stuff[/quote]
just want you to look at this before helping http://www.teamfortress.tv/29878/new-pug-group/?page=3#74[/quote]

I am mostly helping because I am playing and I don't want it to be a clusterfuck. I have to play because I already agreed to heal Kevinispwn and there isn't another medic in the world that would willingly do that.
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