#30 gave me an idea (maybe not intentionally).

tf2stadium could potentially include three different tabs with lobbies, captained pugs, and scrims in a sleek looking interface. thoughts?

Tbh, I don't see how/why Data would be going to put in the massive amounts of time that it takes to
a) make a great scrimming website with all the features that the other 3 (4?) existing options don't have
b) masssively advertise that scrimming website such that (even with tf2stadium around), all the teams will now use it, which never happened with any scrimming website ever in the past (without tf2stadium around)
c) maintain the servers, bugfix the site and interact with the community

all by himself, with evidently limited coding experience, for zero money, all while also getting his Bachelor (could make the site his exam project, but there's still additional work on the way there).

But if he does, nice.

Well the tone is probably a bit excessive, we're not exactly uncovering an arch criminal here.

The main problem with the proposed project is that it doesn't offer anything significantly new in addition to existing sites and I think there's a lack of research into the subject, what's out there already, what opinions people have expressed on forums before. If the question is "would you like something nice for free?" then the answer will always be yes. I don't see this becoming used much though without some significantly stronger elements he probably isn't in a position to provide.

If you want to see where TF2Stadium at, feel free to join our alpha group and check it for yourself, I just sent you an invite. Please, inform yourself before implying we're dead.

Also, I think you're misunderstanding that TF2Stadium is not Kevin and that Kevin is not TF2Stadium.

These ideas have been thrown around and discussed thoroughly internally. Unfortunately, we have a policy of not confirming anything until it's done, so I can't say whether we're going to implement them.

Development is still very much active: https://github.com/TF2Stadium/Helen/commits/dev (sorry for the shitty commit messages, I'm bad at them)

The closed alpha has been going for more than a week, and we're making significant progress. A good amount of work has been done, and I just added support for chat logs a few days ago. At this stage, most of the development work is centred around testing, to spot and fix any minor bugs.

I should do a development update some day, but eh.

EDIT: ninjad smh we should really get a pr guy
EDIT: lets not derail this thread, discuss tf2stadium on http://www.teamfortress.tv/27662/tf2stadium-com

thanks for the fat invite

The title of the post remains "Interested in a team based scrimming website?"
If people simply don't want it/see it being useful, I'll spend my time contributing to other projects.

I think people do want this but there are some concerns that I will summarise here:

1) Your track record on site development but as has been said before this all happened a reasonably long time ago and I'm a strong believer in second chances.
2) The sheer amount of time/effort and expertise something like this takes. It would be a difficult task for anyone to undertake I don't think these concerns are particularly a comment on you and your abilities personally.
3) Site promotion and unique selling points. Many many sites have tried this and failed - not because its a bad idea but because they didn't promote their site enough or the site lacked certain desirable features. I think your idea for more of a matchmaking system rather than a planning system is a good one but it may require a lot of work. I know having been involved (albeit not from a code point of view) with TF2Stadium that something like this is not easy to code especially on your own.

Having said all this, I wish you the best of luck in the development of your site. As has been mentioned previously, TF2Stadium are looking into branching into this in the future but our ultimate focus is on getting a functioning lobby site up and running as that is our primary purpose. Therefore I wouldn't want this to dissuade others from starting their own projects. I have sadly decided to move away from competitive TF2 and TF2Stadium for the moment due to some personal problems however I will continue to follow the community because I really like it. Why? Probably because even now when some are proclaiming the game "dead" there are all kinds of new & interesting ideas and projects popping up, with people investing their time and energy (and often money) into something, just because it would benefit the community. I think that truly is wonderful and something very unique and special about this community in particular.

I would encourage everyone to give this guy another chance. If he fails, we haven't lost much but if he succeeds then it could be a very positive force for the community. I think underneath it all this guy actually does want to help the community even if he hasn't done the best job so far. We desperately need people like him and those who work on other projects to move towards websites and move away from the dated IRC clients, it is nearly 2016 after all.

Best of luck to all of those who are willing to help the TF2 community.

I'll wait to see how the competitive update impacts TF2 and decide whether this is a good idea. Otherwise, it may be best for me to contribute to other projects given the fact that it would be difficult to develop a website like this alone.

I actually really like this idea, probably the best chance at getting a scrimming website to become popular, at least for ugc teams.