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#241
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Red_How do I know blacks feel this way? Are you kidding me? Beyonce putting up the black panther symbol in the Super bowl? The riots in whatever city it was? Black lives matter because some idiot kid ran away from the cops and expected bad shit not to happen? They think that's ok? My mom's a lawyer as is my father and a majority of people that are plantiffs are single black women, kids no husband, that are on welfare with no job. They feel entitled to welfare? They think that they don't have to work? That's what I base that shit off of. It's everywhere you can't hige from it

with close minded people like you this institutional racism is perpetuated making everything a race problem when it really shouldnt be. and i can assure you there are people like this of all races.

[quote=Red_]How do I know blacks feel this way? Are you kidding me? Beyonce putting up the black panther symbol in the Super bowl? The riots in whatever city it was? Black lives matter because some idiot kid ran away from the cops and expected bad shit not to happen? They think that's ok? My mom's a lawyer as is my father and a majority of people that are plantiffs are single black women, kids no husband, that are on welfare with no job. They feel entitled to welfare? They think that they don't have to work? That's what I base that shit off of. It's everywhere you can't hige from it[/quote]

with close minded people like you this institutional racism is perpetuated making everything a race problem when it really shouldnt be. and i can assure you there are people like this of all races.
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#242
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Tell me how am I racist? Tell me really. Where did I say I hate black people? I hate entitled people black or not. Why do you think that I hate people because of their race? Their skin color? How the fuck do you really think that putting up black panther symbols is OK? Is that a joke? Promoting black aggression and killing?

Tell me how am I racist? Tell me really. Where did I say I hate black people? I hate entitled people black or not. Why do you think that I hate people because of their race? Their skin color? How the fuck do you really think that putting up black panther symbols is OK? Is that a joke? Promoting black aggression and killing?
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#243
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Red_Tell me how am I racist? Tell me really. Where did I say I hate black people? I hate entitled people black or not. Why do you think that I hate people because of their race? Their skin color?

i said close minded not racist...

[quote=Red_]Tell me how am I racist? Tell me really. Where did I say I hate black people? I hate entitled people black or not. Why do you think that I hate people because of their race? Their skin color?[/quote]

i said close minded not racist...
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#244
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Not you dumbass and btw the huffington post is one of the most liberal article sites on earth. Have you checked any liberal polls recently? They say DJ trump is losing

Not you dumbass and btw the huffington post is one of the most liberal article sites on earth. Have you checked any liberal polls recently? They say DJ trump is losing
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#245
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you condone institutional racism like when black people get killed for not being perfect law abiding citizens

sure, they shouldn't have been breaking the law (even though plenty of BLM protests were about people who probably didn't), but even if they did, murdering suspects is not a good move for a free society

the black panthers, historically, are paramilitary and sketchy as fuck, but not particularly aggressive. Abusing open carry laws seems like something you'd support tbh.

(the panthers didn't actively try to kill white people)

you condone institutional racism like when black people get killed for not being perfect law abiding citizens

sure, they shouldn't have been breaking the law (even though plenty of BLM protests were about people who probably didn't), but even if they did, murdering suspects is not a good move for a free society

the black panthers, historically, are paramilitary and sketchy as fuck, but not particularly aggressive. Abusing open carry laws seems like something you'd support tbh.

(the panthers didn't actively try to kill white people)
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#246
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http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015/04/13/get-a-job-most-welfare-recipients-already-have-one/

it doesn't even matter because the actual statistics are drawn from third parties

if you are against welfare in all forms, you are directly advocating for the suffering of millions of americans

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015/04/13/get-a-job-most-welfare-recipients-already-have-one/

it doesn't even matter because the actual statistics are drawn from third parties

if you are against welfare in all forms, you are directly advocating for the suffering of millions of americans
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#247
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Red_Not you dumbass

very constructive

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[quote=Red_]Not you dumbass[/quote]

very constructive

[spoiler]http://imgur.com/t/wreck_it_ralph/4xbR5TK[/spoiler]
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#248
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I condone institutional racism. Well here's the thing about me "condoning" the killing of black people for not being a perfect law abiding citizen. I don't give a fuck if he's black. White. Mexican. Asian. European. Purple. Blue. Green. WHO GIVES A FUCK. What I care about is people fighting over some idiot who broke the law, tried to run from it, and died. Where do I condone the killing of blacks to whites anywhere? Or blacks to anybody? Do I care that he's black? Nope. I care that he broke the law and anybody who does shit like that deserves punishment and in this case it was death. Black or not who cares

I condone institutional racism. Well here's the thing about me "condoning" the killing of black people for not being a perfect law abiding citizen. I don't give a fuck if he's black. White. Mexican. Asian. European. Purple. Blue. Green. WHO GIVES A FUCK. What I care about is people fighting over some idiot who broke the law, tried to run from it, and died. Where do I condone the killing of blacks to whites anywhere? Or blacks to anybody? Do I care that he's black? Nope. I care that he broke the law and anybody who does shit like that deserves punishment and in this case it was death. Black or not who cares
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#249
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No I think welfare is a good system. It helps tons of people get back on their feet and saves many lives. But when the system is abused it puts unnecessary strain on the economy that people like my parents and you all pay for unjustly

No I think welfare is a good system. It helps tons of people get back on their feet and saves many lives. But when the system is abused it puts unnecessary strain on the economy that people like my parents and you all pay for unjustly
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#250
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the reason it becomes a race issue is because blacks are substantially more likely to not only interact with the police, but are TWICE as likely to be killed by them than white people

which is p fucked up

this runs parallel to the second part of this that makes you a fucked up person:

the cops shouldn't shoot shoplifters and belligerent drunks

and welfare abuse is the biggest lie ever told

rich conservatives are using it to make you hate black people wake up dont be a sheep etc:))))

the reason it becomes a race issue is because blacks are substantially more likely to not only interact with the police, but are TWICE as likely to be killed by them than white people

which is p fucked up

this runs parallel to the second part of this that makes you a fucked up person:

the cops shouldn't shoot shoplifters and belligerent drunks

and welfare abuse is the biggest lie ever told

rich conservatives are using it to make you hate black people wake up dont be a sheep etc:))))
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#251
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Red_I condone institutional racism. Well here's the thing about me "condoning" the killing of black people for not being a perfect law abiding citizen. I don't give a fuck if he's black. White. Mexican. Asian. European. Purple. Blue. Green. WHO GIVES A FUCK. What I care about is people fighting over some idiot who broke the law, tried to run from it, and died. Where do I condone the killing of blacks to whites anywhere? Or blacks to anybody? Do I care that he's black? Nope. I care that he broke the law and anybody who does shit like that deserves punishment and in this case it was death. Black or not who cares

then why do you bring up african americans in all of your examples?

[quote=Red_]I condone institutional racism. Well here's the thing about me "condoning" the killing of black people for not being a perfect law abiding citizen. I don't give a fuck if he's black. White. Mexican. Asian. European. Purple. Blue. Green. WHO GIVES A FUCK. What I care about is people fighting over some idiot who broke the law, tried to run from it, and died. Where do I condone the killing of blacks to whites anywhere? Or blacks to anybody? Do I care that he's black? Nope. I care that he broke the law and anybody who does shit like that deserves punishment and in this case it was death. Black or not who cares[/quote]

then why do you bring up african americans in all of your examples?
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#252
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Because we're talking about black people and equality and racism you stupid fuck

Blacks are more likely to get killed than whites or whatever the hell you said. Is it possible that maybe some blacks just commit more crimes? Is it possible that maybe they are conditioned by shit like this to feel entitled to being able to do that? Why is it BECAUSE they are black? Could it be because of some unknown reason that is completely nonrelated to race?

Because we're talking about black people and equality and racism you stupid fuck

Blacks are more likely to get killed than whites or whatever the hell you said. Is it possible that maybe some blacks just commit more crimes? Is it possible that maybe they are conditioned by shit like this to feel entitled to being able to do that? Why is it BECAUSE they are black? Could it be because of some unknown reason that is completely nonrelated to race?
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#253
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high school kid
private school
libertarian
saying baby boomers somehow had it hard in any way
preaching about cost of welfare abuse as opposed to corporate tax breaks

why bother debating this guy at all

high school kid
private school
libertarian
saying baby boomers somehow had it hard in any way
preaching about cost of welfare abuse as opposed to corporate tax breaks

why bother debating this guy at all
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#254
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you said it wasn't about race? if that's the case you should be able to make your statements apply to all people and have them work just as well :)

Avasthigh school kid
private school
libertarian
saying baby boomers somehow had it hard in any way
preaching about cost of welfare abuse as opposed to corporate tax breaks

why bother debating this guy at all

i get to flex my /r/sandersforpresident dick

and i used to be a racist libertarian highschooler and its like punching myself in the face tbh

you said it wasn't about race? if that's the case you should be able to make your statements apply to all people and have them work just as well :)

[quote=Avast]high school kid
private school
libertarian
saying baby boomers somehow had it hard in any way
preaching about cost of welfare abuse as opposed to corporate tax breaks

why bother debating this guy at all[/quote]

i get to flex my /r/sandersforpresident dick

and i used to be a racist libertarian highschooler and its like punching myself in the face tbh
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#255
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Red_Because we're talking about black people and equality and racism you stupid fuck

you seem to be pretty opposed to that

and this

eeeyou said it wasn't about race? if that's the case you should be able to make your statements apply to all people and have them work just as well :)
[quote=Red_]Because we're talking about black people and equality and racism you stupid fuck[/quote]

you seem to be pretty opposed to that

and this
[quote=eee]you said it wasn't about race? if that's the case you should be able to make your statements apply to all people and have them work just as well :)[/quote]
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#256
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Red_eeeDebt on a national scale isn't what you think it is :)

if you hate not earning shit so much stop driving on public roads and start paying your teachers their salary :)

libertarians exist in a dream world where the free market isn't exploitative and can actually compete with the socialized option :))))

Hey btw dickhead I go to a private school where teachers are independently paid and that's not up to me. In fact I pay for other kids to go school!

Nt tho!

and btw I'm not sure how old your parents are but if they're around 50-60 they got out of students debt and loans (my parents college + lawschool) in the highest interest rate period in history for the US. Yeah they did that through hard work and no sense of entitlement

Sorry, but in all honesty, your entitlement argument is very unimpressive if you have to brag about YOUR FUCKING PARENTS working themselves up in society. It's literally the definition of entitlement that you get to go to a private school because your parents have fat wallets. If your parents worked themselves up in society they get to make that argument, but you don't until you've actually had some accomplishments in life.

[quote=Red_][quote=eee]Debt on a national scale isn't what you think it is :)

if you hate not earning shit so much stop driving on public roads and start paying your teachers their salary :)

libertarians exist in a dream world where the free market isn't exploitative and can actually compete with the socialized option :))))[/quote]

Hey btw dickhead I go to a private school where teachers are independently paid and that's not up to me. In fact I pay for other kids to go school!

Nt tho!

and btw I'm not sure how old your parents are but if they're around 50-60 they got out of students debt and loans (my parents college + lawschool) in the highest interest rate period in history for the US. Yeah they did that through hard work and no sense of entitlement[/quote]

Sorry, but in all honesty, your entitlement argument is very unimpressive if you have to brag about YOUR FUCKING PARENTS working themselves up in society. It's literally the definition of entitlement that you get to go to a private school because your parents have fat wallets. If your parents worked themselves up in society they get to make that argument, but you don't until you've actually had some accomplishments in life.
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#257
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Red_Because we're talking about black people and equality and racism you stupid fuck

Blacks are more likely to get killed than whites or whatever the hell you said. Is it possible that maybe some blacks just commit more crimes? Is it possible that maybe they are conditioned by shit like this to feel entitled to being able to do that? Why is it BECAUSE they are black? Could it be because of some unknown reason that is completely nonrelated to race?

this is institutional racism my dear friend

[quote=Red_]Because we're talking about black people and equality and racism you stupid fuck

Blacks are more likely to get killed than whites or whatever the hell you said. Is it possible that maybe some blacks just commit more crimes? Is it possible that maybe they are conditioned by shit like this to feel entitled to being able to do that? Why is it BECAUSE they are black? Could it be because of some unknown reason that is completely nonrelated to race?[/quote]

this is institutional racism my dear friend
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#258
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Red_Because we're talking about black people and equality and racism you stupid fuck

Blacks are more likely to get killed than whites or whatever the hell you said. Is it possible that maybe some blacks just commit more crimes? Is it possible that maybe they are conditioned by shit like this to feel entitled to being able to do that? Why is it BECAUSE they are black? Could it be because of some unknown reason that is completely nonrelated to race?

the roughest reason its an actual race issue is because the crime statistic correlates more strongly with socioeconomic status than race, but race correlates strongly with socioeconomic status in america. the reason this is might be revealed when u get into US history, but I'll spoil it for you :)

200 years of slavery followed by 100 years of jim crowe laws and white flight from almost all cities during the 20th century means that america as a whole completely fucked over the economy of all the black communities

[quote=Red_]Because we're talking about black people and equality and racism you stupid fuck

Blacks are more likely to get killed than whites or whatever the hell you said. Is it possible that maybe some blacks just commit more crimes? Is it possible that maybe they are conditioned by shit like this to feel entitled to being able to do that? Why is it BECAUSE they are black? Could it be because of some unknown reason that is completely nonrelated to race?[/quote]
the roughest reason its an actual race issue is because the crime statistic correlates more strongly with socioeconomic status than race, but race correlates strongly with socioeconomic status in america. the reason this is might be revealed when u get into US history, but I'll spoil it for you :)

200 years of slavery followed by 100 years of jim crowe laws and white flight from almost all cities during the 20th century means that america as a whole completely fucked over the economy of all the black communities
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#259
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Yeah I am opposed to that because I don't believe that in most cases (there are cases in the south of people like lynch niggers whatever etc). But in most cases like the police shootings and shit that is not racism at all. Shit like the black panther stuff is racist against me as a white man in current times

Yeah I am opposed to that because I don't believe that in most cases (there are cases in the south of people like lynch niggers whatever etc). But in most cases like the police shootings and shit that is not racism at all. Shit like the black panther stuff is racist against me as a white man in current times
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#260
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you don't actually know what the historical black panthers were do you?

you don't actually know what the historical black panthers were do you?
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#261
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Yeah Jim Crowe laws and oppression yeah I get it definitely threw them back quite a bit. Where do I see some black people trying to better themselves and actually improve instead of just banking off of entitlement. Don't you think that if some black people are wealthy that's possible to actually get out of this "economic oppression"

The black panthers were a black defense group that Malcom X was a part of that fought for black rights and black equality. What did I miss

Yeah Jim Crowe laws and oppression yeah I get it definitely threw them back quite a bit. Where do I see some black people trying to better themselves and actually improve instead of just banking off of entitlement. Don't you think that if some black people are wealthy that's possible to actually get out of this "economic oppression"

The black panthers were a black defense group that Malcom X was a part of that fought for black rights and black equality. What did I miss
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#262
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glad to see an unabashed racist attend the most prestigious tf2 LAN as a competitor. How many does that make now? 3?

glad to see an unabashed racist attend the most prestigious tf2 LAN as a competitor. How many does that make now? 3?
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#263
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Red_Yeah I am opposed to that because I don't believe that in most cases (there are cases in the south of people like lynch niggers whatever etc). But in most cases like the police shootings and shit that is not racism at all. Shit like the black panther stuff is racist against me as a white man in current times

well as you can tell by my name

i also am a white man

but i am more open minded to wanting to understand why they are racist against me and mending the gap but the things you spew widen it.

[quote=Red_]Yeah I am opposed to that because I don't believe that in most cases (there are cases in the south of people like lynch niggers whatever etc). But in most cases like the police shootings and shit that is not racism at all. Shit like the black panther stuff is racist against me as a white man in current times[/quote]

well as you can tell by my name

i also am a white man

but i am more open minded to wanting to understand why they are racist against me and mending the gap but the things you spew widen it.
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#264
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since u seem to have never had a job:

its actually a pain in the ass to go to school when u have to feed yr family

since u seem to have never had a job:

its actually a pain in the ass to go to school when u have to feed yr family
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#265
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I understand why blacks in the 60s were racist. Shit they were getting fucked by society. Now there's no reason. There's nothing we can do. They have equal rights. Equal opportunities in most cases. Why are we being racist now? Why is it racist now how are we oppressing them now

I work as a bagger I bought my own car pay for my own gas I have a 3.6 gpa and I go to PT in the afternoons for a hip surgery and play some sports. I have enough on my plate as a 16 year old right? I'm working pretty hard to do well really

I understand why blacks in the 60s were racist. Shit they were getting fucked by society. Now there's no reason. There's nothing we can do. They have equal rights. Equal opportunities in most cases. Why are we being racist now? Why is it racist now how are we oppressing them now

I work as a bagger I bought my own car pay for my own gas I have a 3.6 gpa and I go to PT in the afternoons for a hip surgery and play some sports. I have enough on my plate as a 16 year old right? I'm working pretty hard to do well really
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#266
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no actually

add an extra 20 hours a week and try to keep your grades up

the panthers weren't even a racist organization as much as they aimed to actively protect and arm (use the 2nd amendment) black communities against the growing threat of domestic terrorism

and lmao if you're trying to say that black people today have the same opportunities as whites

im getting my PhD or MD or w/e because i only work to buy clothes and my parents pay my way and jerome is feeding his siblings and trying to take 4 credit hours at a community college

no actually

add an extra 20 hours a week and try to keep your grades up

the panthers weren't even a racist organization as much as they aimed to actively protect and arm (use the 2nd amendment) black communities against the growing threat of domestic terrorism

and lmao if you're trying to say that black people today have the same opportunities as whites

im getting my PhD or MD or w/e because i only work to buy clothes and my parents pay my way and jerome is feeding his siblings and trying to take 4 credit hours at a community college
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#267
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ITS PERPETUAL INSTITUTIONAL RACISM

it took 300 years to develop ~40 years isnt going to reverse it

ITS [b]PERPETUAL[/b] INSTITUTIONAL RACISM

it took 300 years to develop ~40 years isnt going to reverse it
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#268
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Red_Yeah Jim Crowe laws and oppression yeah I get it definitely threw them back quite a bit. Where do I see some black people trying to better themselves and actually improve instead of just banking off of entitlement. Don't you think that if some black people are wealthy that's possible to actually get out of this "economic oppression"

The black panthers were a black defense group that Malcom X was a part of that fought for black rights and black equality. What did I miss

I was gonna actually respond to some of these posts but im not even sure I need to anymore

[quote=Red_]Yeah Jim Crowe laws and oppression yeah I get it definitely threw them back quite a bit. Where do I see some black people trying to better themselves and actually improve instead of just banking off of entitlement. Don't you think that if some black people are wealthy that's possible to actually get out of this "economic oppression"

The black panthers were a black defense group [b]that Malcom X was a part of [/b]that fought for black rights and black equality. What did I miss[/quote]

I was gonna actually respond to some of these posts but im not even sure I need to anymore
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#269
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It's an entirely new generation that is entirely conditioned differently. Do you really think that there is some gene that just passively makes people hate blacks? In about 20 years being gay went from being not OK to having completely reversed rights and tons of completely reversed views

Malcom X wasn't a part of it the movement was just started from his practices I'm pretty sure regardless what does that even have to do with knowing what the black panthers were about?

It's an entirely new generation that is entirely conditioned differently. Do you really think that there is some gene that just passively makes people hate blacks? In about 20 years being gay went from being not OK to having completely reversed rights and tons of completely reversed views

Malcom X wasn't a part of it the movement was just started from his practices I'm pretty sure regardless what does that even have to do with knowing what the black panthers were about?
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#270
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and gay people still get discriminated against lmao you're not helping your case with that example

and gay people still get discriminated against lmao you're not helping your case with that example
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