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jewbagelsthe season 6 premier is today 8))

Damn dude, you got me excited, premier's next week.

[quote=jewbagels]the season 6 premier is today 8))[/quote]
Damn dude, you got me excited, premier's next week.
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Here's me thinking the Dorne plot in the show couldn't get any worse. For fuck sake.

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Here's me thinking the Dorne plot in the show couldn't get any worse. For fuck sake.

[spoiler]http://i.imgur.com/U6RauO2.jpg[/spoiler]
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They spent a lot of airtime developing some interesting characters...

...and then they kill them to replace them with much worse or undeveloped characters

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Also Areo Hotah is a badass in season 5, and he dies like a useless fool to the girl power ranger trio? Please stop
They spent a lot of airtime developing some interesting characters...

...and then they kill them to replace them with much worse or undeveloped characters

[spoiler]Also Areo Hotah is a badass in season 5, and he dies like a useless fool to the girl power ranger trio? Please stop[/spoiler]
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well that ending was unexpected

well that ending was unexpected
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i want more

i want more
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#36
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Can't wait for the big nights watch showdown

Can't wait for the big nights watch showdown
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Dorne storyline was terribad.

Rest of it was really just build up and much better quality.

Dorne storyline was terribad.

Rest of it was really just build up and much better quality.
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the thing that got me was trystanes death, they wasted what could have been an ok fight or some sort of other character development for one of the 4 depthless dorne characters that are now going to be central to the story in favour of a cringey fuckin one liner.

the thing that got me was trystanes death, they wasted what could have been an ok fight or some sort of other character development for one of the 4 depthless dorne characters that are now going to be central to the story in favour of a cringey fuckin one liner.
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Look at the bright side, D&D's take on Dorne is one step closer to ending.

Wasted potential though. I think Doran's actor was pretty good for the little screen time he had. I feel like D&D took a good, hard look at what went wrong with season five and decided a quicker death to this miserable plot will make everyone happier in the long run.

Look at the bright side, D&D's take on Dorne is one step closer to ending.

Wasted potential though. I think Doran's actor was pretty good for the little screen time he had. I feel like D&D took a good, hard look at what went wrong with season five and decided a quicker death to this miserable plot will make everyone happier in the long run.
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he's back
[spoiler]he's back[/spoiler]
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Dreamboat
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he's back
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*le gasp*
[quote=Dreamboat][spoiler]he's back[/spoiler][/quote]
[spoiler]*le gasp*[/spoiler]
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solaDreamboat
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he's back
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*le gasp*
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idk, after a season absence, I kinda forgot bran was a person. I like max von sydow as the 3 eyed raven.
[quote=sola][quote=Dreamboat][spoiler]he's back[/spoiler][/quote]
[spoiler]*le gasp*[/spoiler][/quote]
[spoiler]idk, after a season absence, I kinda forgot bran was a person. I like max von sydow as the 3 eyed raven.[/spoiler]
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"jon always comes back"

kreygasm
[spoiler]"jon always comes back"

kreygasm[/spoiler]
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roose bolton dying like that was so stupid and makes no sense i'm so worked up. Roose is meant to be an extremely smart character and is the man that the people are loyal too. Roose was pretty much taunting Ramsey and knowing Ramsey's personality he would have known that Ramsey would try to kill the baby. It makes no sense that he would not take any precautions or at least have a loyal guard in, it makes no sense how the Karstark lord was suddenly loyal to Ramsey and ok with a bastard killing his lord, the Karstarks are loyal to Roose not his bastard son. It makes no sense how he stabs him and just gets away with the "poisoned", people would investigate. This is what happens when D&D make their own ideas. Ramsey Snow is such an awful character and goes against what made the bad guys in got so great, he is a bad guy who is bad because he is just evil and has no other qualities or any humanity. It's a shame how the show caught up with the books and D&D have to decide on things because they are fucking idiots.

roose bolton dying like that was so stupid and makes no sense i'm so worked up. Roose is meant to be an extremely smart character and is the man that the people are loyal too. Roose was pretty much taunting Ramsey and knowing Ramsey's personality he would have known that Ramsey would try to kill the baby. It makes no sense that he would not take any precautions or at least have a loyal guard in, it makes no sense how the Karstark lord was suddenly loyal to Ramsey and ok with a bastard killing his lord, the Karstarks are loyal to Roose not his bastard son. It makes no sense how he stabs him and just gets away with the "poisoned", people would investigate. This is what happens when D&D make their own ideas. Ramsey Snow is such an awful character and goes against what made the bad guys in got so great, he is a bad guy who is bad because he is just evil and has no other qualities or any humanity. It's a shame how the show caught up with the books and D&D have to decide on things because they are fucking idiots.
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#44

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I'm praying that they give some back story later on thats not retarded as to why the Karstarks have decided to side with the bastard and not Roose.
Other than that I'm in agreement, with this and the Dorne plot don't have high hopes to be honest with D&Ds direction.
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[spoiler]I'm praying that they give some back story later on thats not retarded as to why the Karstarks have decided to side with the bastard and not Roose.
Other than that I'm in agreement, with this and the Dorne plot don't have high hopes to be honest with D&Ds direction.[/spoiler]
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I liked the episode besides the Ramsey part I hope more heads get exploded on walls this season in quick succession

I liked the episode besides the Ramsey part I hope more heads get exploded on walls this season in quick succession
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Bren#44
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I'm praying that they give some back story later on thats not retarded as to why the Karstarks have decided to side with the bastard and not Roose.
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The North remembers. The Boltons under Ramsay's leadership are likely to accelerate their downfall, as more rash actions are likely to be made over reasonable ones. This is hinted at when Ramsay suggests storming Castle Black and Roose is strongly opposed to the idea due to its recklessness which is likely to turn the other houses in the North against them. This somewhat mirrors House Manderlay's supposed allegiance to the Boltons and Freys in the books.

I think the main element of bullshit with Roose dying is that surely he knew Ramsay was plotting to make a power grab if Walda Frey gave birth to a son. You can speculate that he was planning to deal with the situation if it arose however Ramsay got there first, but given how many times stupid shit has happened in the show, I shouldn't look into it with too much depth.

Overall though, I found this episode was far better than the last one. It's good to see the Aeron and Euron making an appearance (where's the eyepatch bro?). I assume Yara will take the place of Victarion after the Kingsmoot, or possibly Theon depending on where he meant when he said "Home".
[quote=Bren]#44

[spoiler]I'm praying that they give some back story later on thats not retarded as to why the Karstarks have decided to side with the bastard and not Roose.
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[spoiler]The North remembers. The Boltons under Ramsay's leadership are likely to accelerate their downfall, as more rash actions are likely to be made over reasonable ones. This is hinted at when Ramsay suggests storming Castle Black and Roose is strongly opposed to the idea due to its recklessness which is likely to turn the other houses in the North against them. This somewhat mirrors House Manderlay's supposed allegiance to the Boltons and Freys in the books.

I think the main element of bullshit with Roose dying is that surely he knew Ramsay was plotting to make a power grab if Walda Frey gave birth to a son. You can speculate that he was planning to deal with the situation if it arose however Ramsay got there first, but given how many times stupid shit has happened in the show, I shouldn't look into it with too much depth.

Overall though, I found this episode was far better than the last one. It's good to see the Aeron and Euron making an appearance (where's the eyepatch bro?). I assume Yara will take the place of Victarion after the Kingsmoot, or possibly Theon depending on where he meant when he said "Home".[/spoiler]
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Do you guys think everyone would like Ramsay more if they played Huey Lewis and The News during his evil-time scenes?

Do you guys think everyone would like Ramsay more if they played Huey Lewis and The News during his evil-time scenes?
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Bren
I think the main element of bullshit with Roose dying is that surely he knew Ramsay was plotting to make a power grab if Walda Frey gave birth to a son. You can speculate that he was planning to deal with the situation if it arised but Ramsay got there first, but given how many times stupid shit has happened in the show, I shouldn't look into it with too much depth.[/spoiler]

Roose was literally taunting him about it yet still did nothing about it, it was a really stupid rushed death that wasn't thought out at all

remedyDo you guys think everyone would like Ramsay more if they played Huey Lewis and The News during his evil-time scenes?

I would like him more if he actually had some depth as a character.

[quote=Bren]

I think the main element of bullshit with Roose dying is that surely he knew Ramsay was plotting to make a power grab if Walda Frey gave birth to a son. You can speculate that he was planning to deal with the situation if it arised but Ramsay got there first, but given how many times stupid shit has happened in the show, I shouldn't look into it with too much depth.[/spoiler][/quote]

Roose was literally taunting him about it yet still did nothing about it, it was a really stupid rushed death that wasn't thought out at all

[quote=remedy]Do you guys think everyone would like Ramsay more if they played Huey Lewis and The News during his evil-time scenes?[/quote]

I would like him more if he actually had some depth as a character.
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I really like the way the story line is developing with the High Sparrow, Tommen, Margaery and Cersei. Interesting theory on it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/4jjqi9/everything_my_theory_about_what_the_high_sparrow/
Also Dany's seen was pretty fucking awesome.

I really like the way the story line is developing with the High Sparrow, Tommen, Margaery and Cersei. Interesting theory on it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/4jjqi9/everything_my_theory_about_what_the_high_sparrow/
Also Dany's seen was pretty fucking awesome.
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In the season 5 thread I wrote that I don't think it's a problem that Dany doesn't do much,

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but now I have to say,I do find it a bit irritating how this character never fails and repeatedly wins everything by doing nothing just because she happens to be immune to fire. She literally has the plot armor written into her character. Btw, was that dothraki temple doused in gasoline, has she acquired dragon-like powers offscreen and controlled it, or are we just supposed to believe dry ground burns like that?

The scene was still cool, but my favorite scenes so far are actually the ones where characters are talking, kings landing scenes are all really good, tyrion+varys still best characters and even mel doesn't seem to be insufferable anymore. Liking S6 a lot so far.

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The sandsnake scene was retarded
In the season 5 thread I wrote that I don't think it's a problem that Dany doesn't do much, [spoiler]but now I have to say,I do find it a bit irritating how this character never fails and repeatedly wins everything by doing nothing just because she happens to be immune to fire. She literally has the plot armor written into her character. Btw, was that dothraki temple doused in gasoline, has she acquired dragon-like powers offscreen and controlled it, or are we just supposed to believe dry ground burns like that?[/spoiler]

The scene was still cool, but my favorite scenes so far are actually the ones where characters are talking, kings landing scenes are all really good, tyrion+varys still best characters and even mel doesn't seem to be insufferable anymore. Liking S6 a lot so far.
[spoiler]The sandsnake scene was retarded[/spoiler]
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funny you mention that, I just finished watching ep4, that fire scene was so bs

funny you mention that, I just finished watching ep4, that fire scene was so bs
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy23SUE4Ndo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy23SUE4Ndo
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Actually another thing just came to mind about the fire scene:

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Since when do the dothraki worship dragons, or dragon-people? Dragons eat horses. And the dothraki hate magic! Why don't they immediately declare dany a witch and have a horse stomp on her head? If dany knew the dothraki would submit to her just by displaying her fire resistance, why did she ever leave them in the first place? She had already discovered her powers when she was still with the horde, so why didn't she just take over then? After drogo died, she could've done this whole show and she would've had her army. She could've taken her dragons to the dothraki at any time to get a huge army and would've probably had enough men to deal with the sons of the harpy easily.

Is there any explanation for why this didn't happen? What happens in the books?

Actually another thing just came to mind about the fire scene: [spoiler]Since when do the dothraki worship dragons, or dragon-people? Dragons eat horses. And the dothraki hate magic! Why don't they immediately declare dany a witch and have a horse stomp on her head? If dany knew the dothraki would submit to her just by displaying her fire resistance, why did she ever leave them in the first place? She had already discovered her powers when she was still with the horde, so why didn't she just take over then? After drogo died, she could've done this whole show and she would've had her army. She could've taken her dragons to the dothraki at any time to get a huge army and would've probably had enough men to deal with the sons of the harpy easily.[/spoiler] Is there any explanation for why this didn't happen? What happens in the books?
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the301stspartan
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Btw, was that dothraki temple doused in gasoline, has she acquired dragon-like powers offscreen and controlled it, or are we just supposed to believe dry ground burns like that?

In a very dry atmosphere like that with dry rushes covering the bare ground and torches filled with oil that would run out over the floor quickly I could see the building going up that quickly.

Tormund and Brienne are gonna bang

[quote=the301stspartan][spoiler] Btw, was that dothraki temple doused in gasoline, has she acquired dragon-like powers offscreen and controlled it, or are we just supposed to believe dry ground burns like that?[/spoiler][/quote]

In a very dry atmosphere like that with dry rushes covering the bare ground and torches filled with oil that would run out over the floor quickly I could see the building going up that quickly.

Tormund and Brienne are gonna bang
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with the tower of joy scene, and the bolton letter now in the series, what other book stuff that has been delayed should get in this season? Lady stoneheart, Manderley pies and DARKSTAR/Quenten the dragon tamer are all scrapped I guess.

with the tower of joy scene, and the bolton letter now in the series, what other book stuff that has been delayed should get in this season? Lady stoneheart, Manderley pies and DARKSTAR/Quenten the dragon tamer are all scrapped I guess.
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speaking about the books

http://i.imgur.com/bizV5a1.png

also this really is some sick editing

https://youtu.be/4CTJEZXtr94

speaking about the books
[img]http://i.imgur.com/bizV5a1.png[/img]

also this really is some sick editing
[youtube]https://youtu.be/4CTJEZXtr94[/youtube]
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sacwhat other book stuff that has been delayed should get in this season?

The Ironborn plot around Euron and the kingsmoot, but i think they cut Victarion

sacLady stoneheart, Manderley pies and DARKSTAR/Quenten the dragon tamer are all scrapped I guess.

Pretty sure Manderly will at least make an apperance.

[quote=sac]what other book stuff that has been delayed should get in this season?[/quote]

The Ironborn plot around Euron and the kingsmoot, but i think they cut Victarion

[quote=sac]Lady stoneheart, Manderley pies and DARKSTAR/Quenten the dragon tamer are all scrapped I guess.[/quote]

Pretty sure Manderly will at least make an apperance.
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the301stspartanActually another thing just came to mind about the fire scene:
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Since when do the dothraki worship dragons, or dragon-people? Dragons eat horses. And the dothraki hate magic! Why don't they immediately declare dany a witch and have a horse stomp on her head? If dany knew the dothraki would submit to her just by displaying her fire resistance, why did she ever leave them in the first place? She had already discovered her powers when she was still with the horde, so why didn't she just take over then? After drogo died, she could've done this whole show and she would've had her army. She could've taken her dragons to the dothraki at any time to get a huge army and would've probably had enough men to deal with the sons of the harpy easily.
Is there any explanation for why this didn't happen? What happens in the books?

A few things:

I don't see anywhere that the Dothraki "worship dragons or dragon-people". Like mostly any warrior culture, the Dothraki respect strength above all else. Walking through an inferno after killing all the living Karl's is about as powerful a sign of strength as you can get. Even more powerful will be her riding a fully grown dragon (or 3) into battle.

As far as the Army, the Dothraki are a nomadic people so they will not thrive in a city environment. She would not have asked or taken the Dothraki army to Astapor, Yunkai or Meereen had Drogo lived. The Dothraki are, in essence, one of the best types of armies you can recruit to conquer massive stretches of land. They travel long distances and fight as a horde with numbers. They resemble the Mongolians of Asia and how unstoppable they were in that form of combat. If you put an army like that in a city like Kings Landing, they will never survive.

[quote=the301stspartan]Actually another thing just came to mind about the fire scene: [spoiler]Since when do the dothraki worship dragons, or dragon-people? Dragons eat horses. And the dothraki hate magic! Why don't they immediately declare dany a witch and have a horse stomp on her head? If dany knew the dothraki would submit to her just by displaying her fire resistance, why did she ever leave them in the first place? She had already discovered her powers when she was still with the horde, so why didn't she just take over then? After drogo died, she could've done this whole show and she would've had her army. She could've taken her dragons to the dothraki at any time to get a huge army and would've probably had enough men to deal with the sons of the harpy easily.[/spoiler] Is there any explanation for why this didn't happen? What happens in the books?[/quote]

A few things:

I don't see anywhere that the Dothraki "worship dragons or dragon-people". Like mostly any warrior culture, the Dothraki respect strength above all else. Walking through an inferno after killing all the living Karl's is about as powerful a sign of strength as you can get. Even more powerful will be her riding a fully grown dragon (or 3) into battle.

As far as the Army, the Dothraki are a nomadic people so they will not thrive in a city environment. She would not have asked or taken the Dothraki army to Astapor, Yunkai or Meereen had Drogo lived. The Dothraki are, in essence, one of the best types of armies you can recruit to conquer massive stretches of land. They travel long distances and fight as a horde with numbers. They resemble the Mongolians of Asia and how unstoppable they were in that form of combat. If you put an army like that in a city like Kings Landing, they will never survive.
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SpaceCadetthe301stspartanActually another thing just came to mind about the fire scene:
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Since when do the dothraki worship dragons, or dragon-people? Dragons eat horses. And the dothraki hate magic! Why don't they immediately declare dany a witch and have a horse stomp on her head? If dany knew the dothraki would submit to her just by displaying her fire resistance, why did she ever leave them in the first place? She had already discovered her powers when she was still with the horde, so why didn't she just take over then? After drogo died, she could've done this whole show and she would've had her army. She could've taken her dragons to the dothraki at any time to get a huge army and would've probably had enough men to deal with the sons of the harpy easily.
Is there any explanation for why this didn't happen? What happens in the books?

A few things:

I don't see anywhere that the Dothraki "worship dragons or dragon-people". Like mostly any warrior culture, the Dothraki respect strength above all else. Walking through an inferno after killing all the living Karl's is about as powerful a sign of strength as you can get. Even more powerful will be her riding a fully grown dragon (or 3) into battle.

Then why hasn't some back-alley witch taken over the dothraki yet? If this is true

In a very dry atmosphere like that with dry rushes covering the bare ground and torches filled with oil that would run out over the floor quickly I could see the building going up that quickly.

and all you need to do to kill all the Khals is to throw over a torch, then surely a witch such as the one that killed an unborn baby and made drogo catatonic with magic could've warded herself against fire or created an illusion of herself in the fire melisandre-style and taken over the whole shop instead of being raped and sold into slavery.

Maybe you are right, but the way I understand the Dothraki, it doesn't seem to me like their reaction to an obviously foreign woman killing all their leaders using magic would be submission. Maybe after at least some of them have tried
beating her to a pulp and failed, but just like that?

The only explanation that makes sense to me is that there just hasn't been any opportunity to strike at all the Khals at once like that and that the dothraki were impressed because she finished them all off at once. I guess I can live with that.

As far as the Army, the Dothraki are a nomadic people so they will not thrive in a city environment. She would not have asked or taken the Dothraki army to Astapor, Yunkai or Meereen had Drogo lived. The Dothraki are, in essence, one of the best types of armies you can recruit to conquer massive stretches of land. They travel long distances and fight as a horde with numbers. They resemble the Mongolians of Asia and how unstoppable they were in that form of combat. If you put an army like that in a city like Kings Landing, they will never survive.

But wasn't that precisely Drogo's plan when he was alive? Sail to Westeros and conquer all the cities? And it seems to be her plan once more now, so I'm kinda confused why this happens now. Did she only think of it now taht she was captured? Possible I guess, but somewhat weird.

[quote=SpaceCadet][quote=the301stspartan]Actually another thing just came to mind about the fire scene: [spoiler]Since when do the dothraki worship dragons, or dragon-people? Dragons eat horses. And the dothraki hate magic! Why don't they immediately declare dany a witch and have a horse stomp on her head? If dany knew the dothraki would submit to her just by displaying her fire resistance, why did she ever leave them in the first place? She had already discovered her powers when she was still with the horde, so why didn't she just take over then? After drogo died, she could've done this whole show and she would've had her army. She could've taken her dragons to the dothraki at any time to get a huge army and would've probably had enough men to deal with the sons of the harpy easily.[/spoiler] Is there any explanation for why this didn't happen? What happens in the books?[/quote]

A few things:

I don't see anywhere that the Dothraki "worship dragons or dragon-people". Like mostly any warrior culture, the Dothraki respect strength above all else. Walking through an inferno after killing all the living Karl's is about as powerful a sign of strength as you can get. Even more powerful will be her riding a fully grown dragon (or 3) into battle.[/quote]

Then why hasn't some back-alley witch taken over the dothraki yet? If this is true [quote]In a very dry atmosphere like that with dry rushes covering the bare ground and torches filled with oil that would run out over the floor quickly I could see the building going up that quickly.[/quote] and all you need to do to kill all the Khals is to throw over a torch, then surely a witch such as the one that killed an unborn baby and made drogo catatonic with magic could've warded herself against fire or created an illusion of herself in the fire melisandre-style and taken over the whole shop instead of being raped and sold into slavery.

Maybe you are right, but the way I understand the Dothraki, it doesn't seem to me like their reaction to an obviously foreign woman killing all their leaders using magic would be submission. Maybe after at least some of them have tried
beating her to a pulp and failed, but just like that?

The only explanation that makes sense to me is that there just hasn't been any opportunity to strike at all the Khals at once like that and that the dothraki were impressed because she finished them all off at once. I guess I can live with that.

[quote]As far as the Army, the Dothraki are a nomadic people so they will not thrive in a city environment. She would not have asked or taken the Dothraki army to Astapor, Yunkai or Meereen had Drogo lived. The Dothraki are, in essence, one of the best types of armies you can recruit to conquer massive stretches of land. They travel long distances and fight as a horde with numbers. They resemble the Mongolians of Asia and how unstoppable they were in that form of combat. If you put an army like that in a city like Kings Landing, they will never survive.[/quote]

But wasn't that precisely Drogo's plan when he was alive? Sail to Westeros and conquer all the cities? And it seems to be her plan once more now, so I'm kinda confused why this happens now. Did she only think of it now taht she was captured? Possible I guess, but somewhat weird.
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