as long as reckoner isn't in the i58 map pool cause that'd kind of be shitty

Why? I disagreed with gravelpit coming back for DHW because there was 3 weeks notice. Reckoner has an etf2l season and 3 months notice before i58.

At least people had played Gpit before, even if they were rusty on it. Reckoner as it currently stands is only played in EU and gives a massive advantage to eu teams for the lan.

I dont think anyone ever played sunshine outside of 2 games in the season, people actually scrim granary from time to time. Im really happy sunshine is finally out of the map pool.

I absolutely loved reckoner when I played it in experimental cup, really nice to see it in season.

Myself I'd rather play another KOTH map then see 5CP map being replaced by another 5CP map -,-.. I liked sunshine slighly more then reckoner tho

i-series always uses the EU rulesets and map pool. There is currently nobody interested in uniting the map pools or rulesets globally, so this is the end result.

remember how gpit didn't even get played that tournament cuz every team selected it for their map ban

yeah but at least everyone was on the same page there, reckoner will be an instant ban for any NA/AU/Asian team, but not for most EU teams

I think that the map pool should be extended in general. It shouldn't be arguing maps v maps, it should be 'is this map good? Yes then we will play it at some point.'

You can have too many maps at once obviously because it's hard for teams to practice that many but I think it would be good to change the map pool every season by one or two maps and also include more maps in different cups.

Fresh maps are + but where did obscure and freight go?

It's been a while since I last played or even watched tf2

The first few pugs I've played on reckoner were not too enjoyable, however, I hope this has just been me and people around me being inexperienced with the map.

really great map, nice to see some variation in the map pool this season

people got fed up with them IIRC freight last was impossible to push and obscure had a terrible 2nd point and a questionable last

it's been ages since we've played the maps so I'm not quite sure, someone else feel free to correct me

Would like to see this map replace metal/granary in the ESEA season, Even at this point the map has a lot more potential to be better than those maps. I think its a nice change in terms of being a map thats really rewarding for aggressive pushes, pretty much every map in rotation right now is very easy to hold in most areas and are very stalematey. I feel like reckoner is very different in that sense that its a really good map to just coordinate pushes/dry pushes and be aggressive for most of the map.

Not to mention its a really really pretty map