SpaceCadet Trump wasn't elected into any office yet so nobody can judge him on what he may or may not do once elected.
Pretty sure people can judge him as a CEO tho, which dosent help his case much.
It's like saying, he never ran for office so he's clean by default... he dosent have the mental ability to a president, period.
Journalists once asked him about his foreign policy agenda and who he was referring to by saying this or that. He answered with ''myself''.
Regarding foreign policy, il leave this here.
http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Donald_Trump_Foreign_Policy.htm
Please dont elect him.
[quote=SpaceCadet] Trump wasn't elected into any office yet so nobody can judge him on what he may or may not do once elected.[/quote]
Pretty sure people can judge him as a CEO tho, which dosent help his case much.
It's like saying, he never ran for office so he's clean by default... he dosent have the mental ability to a president, period.
Journalists once asked him about his foreign policy agenda and who he was referring to by saying this or that. He answered with ''myself''.
Regarding foreign policy, il leave this here.
http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Donald_Trump_Foreign_Policy.htm
Please dont elect him.
x3SpaceCadet Trump wasn't elected into any office yet so nobody can judge him on what he may or may not do once elected.
Pretty sure people can judge him as a CEO tho, which dosent help his case much.
It's like saying, he never ran for office so he's clean by default... he dosent have the mental ability to a president, period.
Journalists once asked him about his foreign policy agenda and who he was referring to by saying this or that. He answered with ''myself''.
Regarding foreign policy, il leave this here.
http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Donald_Trump_Foreign_Policy.htm
Please dont elect him.
I understand where you are coming from but it really goes back to having no good choices in this election. Since I refuse to vote for Hillary, that either means I don't vote at all or vote Trump by default. I want better options! Going to have to settle on waiting 4 more years and hoping.
[quote=x3][quote=SpaceCadet] Trump wasn't elected into any office yet so nobody can judge him on what he may or may not do once elected.[/quote]
Pretty sure people can judge him as a CEO tho, which dosent help his case much.
It's like saying, he never ran for office so he's clean by default... he dosent have the mental ability to a president, period.
Journalists once asked him about his foreign policy agenda and who he was referring to by saying this or that. He answered with ''myself''.
Regarding foreign policy, il leave this here.
http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Donald_Trump_Foreign_Policy.htm
Please dont elect him.[/quote]
I understand where you are coming from but it really goes back to having no good choices in this election. Since I refuse to vote for Hillary, that either means I don't vote at all or vote Trump by default. I want better options! Going to have to settle on waiting 4 more years and hoping.
id rather vote for a liar with a lot experience on the hill
than
an asshole with no experience at all
it's aight tho.
id rather vote for a liar with a lot experience on the hill
than
an asshole with no experience at all
it's aight tho.
I am not sure whether to feel bad or good for future US history students that study this election.
I am not sure whether to feel bad or good for future US history students that study this election.
Daffodil-I am not sure whether to feel bad or good for future US history students that study this election.
bout a 90% chance they're going to have Hillary be seen pretty positively as the first female president who continued the reforms of the first black president and paved the way to bringing the US into the 21st century in areas like healthcare or education
Literally no one (who matters) is going to care about the emails or w/e in 6 months
[quote=Daffodil-]I am not sure whether to feel bad or good for future US history students that study this election.[/quote]
bout a 90% chance they're going to have Hillary be seen pretty positively as the first female president who continued the reforms of the first black president and paved the way to bringing the US into the 21st century in areas like healthcare or education
Literally no one (who matters) is going to care about the emails or w/e in 6 months
like sac keeps coming into these threads with incomprehensive and incoherent bullshit disguised as facts relevant to his argument. like at the very least format it properly and properly summarise whatever sources you're using. your rhetoric is fucking despicable to the point where it's impossible to decipher where you're going with your arguments; you're just pushing some right-wing position at whatever cost.
i mean i might just be a dumb kid but i mean if you're knowingly adressing clueless "18 year-old yankeedoodles" at least give them some shit that's relevant to what's being discussed.
like sac keeps coming into these threads with incomprehensive and incoherent bullshit disguised as facts relevant to his argument. like at the very least format it properly and properly summarise whatever sources you're using. your rhetoric is fucking despicable to the point where it's impossible to decipher where you're going with your arguments; you're just pushing some right-wing position at whatever cost.
i mean i might just be a dumb kid but i mean if you're knowingly adressing clueless "18 year-old yankeedoodles" at least give them some shit that's relevant to what's being discussed.
Seeing people arguing about who is going to be elected when every single presidential candidate is the same right wing corporation controlled retard is pretty hilarious.
Honestly, if you think you have a choice or believe that Trump or whoever wins is making a difference to how the US is going to behave you're deeply mistaken.
The US is going to keep on doing what they've been doing for decades and that is playing the 'good' policeman of the world.
Its sad to see the world having access to so much historical data and yet still allows secularism to prevail.
Seeing people arguing about who is going to be elected when every single presidential candidate is the same right wing corporation controlled retard is pretty hilarious.
Honestly, if you think you have a choice or believe that Trump or whoever wins is making a difference to how the US is going to behave you're deeply mistaken.
The US is going to keep on doing what they've been doing for decades and that is playing the 'good' policeman of the world.
Its sad to see the world having access to so much historical data and yet still allows secularism to prevail.
Hallowlike sac keeps coming into these threads with incomprehensive and incoherent bullshit disguised as facts relevant to his argument. like at the very least format it properly and properly summarise whatever sources you're using. your rhetoric is fucking despicable to the point where it's impossible to decipher where you're going with your arguments; you're just pushing some right-wing position at whatever cost.
i mean i might just be a dumb kid but i mean if you're knowingly adressing clueless "18 year-old yankeedoodles" at least give them some shit that's relevant to what's being discussed.
all i did was react to this quote
jaegthe sad fact is that a lot of people actually think like trump and say the things trump say, theyve just never had a voice in the us gov that ran for president until trump
with examples of racists in thigh ranking US position to show how bogus the statement is, and i get mobbed by a crowd who is too daft or malicious to get the point.
[quote=Hallow]like sac keeps coming into these threads with incomprehensive and incoherent bullshit disguised as facts relevant to his argument. like at the very least format it properly and properly summarise whatever sources you're using. your rhetoric is fucking despicable to the point where it's impossible to decipher where you're going with your arguments; you're just pushing some right-wing position at whatever cost.
i mean i might just be a dumb kid but i mean if you're knowingly adressing clueless "18 year-old yankeedoodles" at least give them some shit that's relevant to what's being discussed.[/quote]
all i did was react to this quote [quote=jaegthe sad fact is that a lot of people actually think like trump and say the things trump say, theyve just never had a voice in the us gov that ran for president until trump][/quote]
with examples of racists in thigh ranking US position to show how bogus the statement is, and i get mobbed by a crowd who is too daft or malicious to get the point.
I actually have a sociopolitical blog that I started about a month ago after doing some analyses on a few things related to politics/BLM/Bernie/Donald/etc./etc./etc.
The most recent post is about how people support things that don't actually benefit them at all. In particular, I commented on Donald Trump's rise and how by supporting Democrats the African American population in the US is not only hurting themselves but also contributing to starvation and suffering in Africa via the US cotton industry. Enjoy.
Nothing like an opportunity for a shameless plug.
www.justifiablypolemical.wordpress.com
I actually have a sociopolitical blog that I started about a month ago after doing some analyses on a few things related to politics/BLM/Bernie/Donald/etc./etc./etc.
The most recent post is about how people support things that don't actually benefit them at all. In particular, I commented on Donald Trump's rise and how by supporting Democrats the African American population in the US is not only hurting themselves but also contributing to starvation and suffering in Africa via the US cotton industry. Enjoy.
Nothing like an opportunity for a shameless plug.
www.justifiablypolemical.wordpress.com
x3id rather vote for a liar with a lot experience on the hill
completely agree with u x3 but just a heads up the white house isn't on a hill... that's a canada thing
[quote=x3]id rather vote for a liar with a lot experience on the hill[/quote]
completely agree with u x3 but just a heads up the white house isn't on a hill... that's a canada thing
-protox3id rather vote for a liar with a lot experience on the hill
completely agree with u x3 but just a heads up the white house isn't on a hill... that's a canada thing
capital HILL
where HILLary has experience working with congress
[quote=-proto][quote=x3]id rather vote for a liar with a lot experience on the hill[/quote]
completely agree with u x3 but just a heads up the white house isn't on a hill... that's a canada thing[/quote]
capital HILL
where HILLary has experience working with congress
sacall i did was react to this quote jaeg the sad fact is that a lot of people actually think like trump and say the things trump say, theyve just never had a voice in the us gov that ran for president until trump]
with examples of racists in thigh ranking US position to show how bogus the statement is, and i get mobbed by a crowd who is too daft or malicious to get the point.
You didn't even respond right though. You clearly don't understand american culture or history if you think the sort of racism that exists and is supported by trump is the same that was popular in the 60s. Trying to say "well america was racist before" is pointless because we aren't talking about 1960s racism, which had a voice in 1960s politicians. We're talking about 2016 racism, which until now hasn't had a unified voice in a 2016 politician
your inability to understand that and separate historical and contemporary political identities is why everyone thinks you're an idiot
[quote=sac]
all i did was react to this quote [quote=jaeg] the sad fact is that a lot of people actually think like trump and say the things trump say, theyve just never had a voice in the us gov that ran for president until trump][/quote]
with examples of racists in thigh ranking US position to show how bogus the statement is, and i get mobbed by a crowd who is too daft or malicious to get the point.[/quote]
You didn't even respond right though. You clearly don't understand american culture or history if you think the sort of racism that exists and is supported by trump is the same that was popular in the 60s. Trying to say "well america was racist before" is pointless because we aren't talking about 1960s racism, which had a voice in 1960s politicians. We're talking about 2016 racism, which until now hasn't had a unified voice in a 2016 politician
your inability to understand that and separate historical and contemporary political identities is why everyone thinks you're an idiot
eee-protox3id rather vote for a liar with a lot experience on the hill
completely agree with u x3 but just a heads up the white house isn't on a hill... that's a canada thing
capital HILL
where HILLary has experience working with congress
?
[quote=eee][quote=-proto][quote=x3]id rather vote for a liar with a lot experience on the hill[/quote]
completely agree with u x3 but just a heads up the white house isn't on a hill... that's a canada thing[/quote]
capital HILL
where HILLary has experience working with congress[/quote]
?
[quote=-proto]?[/quote]
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Hill]the Hill refers to a thing in America too[/url]
why am I always wrong smh. also why do u guys call it capital hill when it's not even a HILL!!!!!!
ours is actually on a hill...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Parliament_Hill,_Ottawa.jpg
why am I always wrong smh. also why do u guys call it capital hill when it's not even a HILL!!!!!!
ours is actually on a hill...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Parliament_Hill,_Ottawa.jpg
https://twitter.com/Morning_Joe/status/760790261370753025
"we have nuclear weapons, why don't we use them" - trump
A+ /s
https://twitter.com/Morning_Joe/status/760790261370753025
"we have nuclear weapons, why don't we use them" - trump
A+ /s
eeeyour inability to understand that and separate historical and contemporary political identities is why everyone thinks you're an idiot
I like how you always use "we", when spouting your own retarded opionon ,elliot. Multiple personality disorder, pluralis majestis or just speaking in name of some circlejerk? I also gave the example of BLM people protesting for the clintons using the term "super predators" to describe gang people. but you decided to ignore that and yell "muh 1860" for a while.
http://observer.com/2016/04/bill-clintons-racist-defense-of-the-super-predator-myth/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ronda-lee/hillarys-superpredator-comment_b_9655052.html
hpostTherefore, Hillary’s comment holds more significance than simply referring to gang members. It was used to justify mass incarceration for many crack addicts and small dose marijuana users, not dealers. The focus was not rehabilitation of the addicts, but punitive punishment. Prisons are big business in the United States and people business is good! Mandatory minimums and longer sentences makes for huge profits. Have we forgotten about the judges that took bribes from private prisons to send juveniles away? Ironically, now that heroin has taken a foothold in white suburbia, those harsh sentencing guidelines are being struck down in favor of rehabilitation over prison. What about black and Latino addicted youth that were incarcerated? Well, they had to be brought to heel.
[quote=eee]
your inability to understand that and separate historical and contemporary political identities is why everyone thinks you're an idiot[/quote]
I like how you always use "we", when spouting your own retarded opionon ,elliot. Multiple personality disorder, pluralis majestis or just speaking in name of some circlejerk? I also gave the example of BLM people protesting for the clintons using the term "super predators" to describe gang people. but you decided to ignore that and yell "muh 1860" for a while.
http://observer.com/2016/04/bill-clintons-racist-defense-of-the-super-predator-myth/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ronda-lee/hillarys-superpredator-comment_b_9655052.html
[quote=hpost]Therefore, Hillary’s comment holds more significance than simply referring to gang members. It was used to justify mass incarceration for many crack addicts and small dose marijuana users, not dealers. The focus was not rehabilitation of the addicts, but punitive punishment. Prisons are big business in the United States and people business is good! Mandatory minimums and longer sentences makes for huge profits. Have we forgotten about the judges that took bribes from private prisons to send juveniles away? Ironically, now that heroin has taken a foothold in white suburbia, those harsh sentencing guidelines are being struck down in favor of rehabilitation over prison. What about black and Latino addicted youth that were incarcerated? Well, they had to be brought to heel.[/quote]
SpaceCadetI understand where you are coming from but it really goes back to having no good choices in this election. Since I refuse to vote for Hillary, that either means I don't vote at all or vote Trump by default. I want better options! Going to have to settle on waiting 4 more years and hoping.
Look, I don't give a shit if you're an alt right racist with no grasp of how our economy works and want to vote for Trump solely because you hate the dirty goatfuckers or whatever, but please don't vote Trump just because you don't like Hillary. At the very least, just stay home on election day. Or vote third party. You DO have options.
Also, you aren't "waiting 4 more years". The candidate who gets inducted into office aren't gonna just be there quietly doing nothing at all for 4 years while you patiently wait for two more "hopefully-less-bad" candidates to vote for. Don't be so impassive, I implore you.
[quote=SpaceCadet]I understand where you are coming from but it really goes back to having no good choices in this election. Since I refuse to vote for Hillary, that either means I don't vote at all or vote Trump by default. I want better options! Going to have to settle on waiting 4 more years and hoping.[/quote]
Look, I don't give a shit if you're an alt right racist with no grasp of how our economy works and want to vote for Trump solely because you hate the dirty goatfuckers or whatever, but [b]please[/b] don't vote Trump just because you don't like Hillary. At the very least, just stay home on election day. Or vote third party. You DO have options.
Also, you aren't "waiting 4 more years". The candidate who gets inducted into office aren't gonna just be there quietly doing nothing at all for 4 years while you patiently wait for two more "hopefully-less-bad" candidates to vote for. Don't be so impassive, I implore you.
obe_SpaceCadetI understand where you are coming from but it really goes back to having no good choices in this election. Since I refuse to vote for Hillary, that either means I don't vote at all or vote Drumpf by default. I want better options! Going to have to settle on waiting 4 more years and hoping.
Look, I don't give a shit if you're an alt right racist with no grasp of how our economy works and want to vote for Drumpf solely because you hate the dirty goatfuckers or whatever, but please don't vote Drumpf just because you don't like Hillary. At the very least, just stay home on election day. Or vote third party. You DO have options.
Also, you aren't "waiting 4 more years". The candidate who gets inducted into office aren't gonna just be there quietly doing nothing at all for 4 years while you patiently wait for two more "hopefully-less-bad" candidates to vote for. Don't be so impassive, I implore you.
Voting 3rd party is the same as not voting. Be realistic.
I feel like I can't vote for Hillary on principal cuz of the DNC shenanigans. Doesn't feel like a democratic election after that shit got leaked. So now my options are to not vote, or vote for Trump. I'm leaning heavily towards not voting, but maybe Trump can convince me by November that he's not going to be a disaster.
[quote=obe_][quote=SpaceCadet]I understand where you are coming from but it really goes back to having no good choices in this election. Since I refuse to vote for Hillary, that either means I don't vote at all or vote Drumpf by default. I want better options! Going to have to settle on waiting 4 more years and hoping.[/quote]
Look, I don't give a shit if you're an alt right racist with no grasp of how our economy works and want to vote for Drumpf solely because you hate the dirty goatfuckers or whatever, but [b]please[/b] don't vote Drumpf just because you don't like Hillary. At the very least, just stay home on election day. Or vote third party. You DO have options.
Also, you aren't "waiting 4 more years". The candidate who gets inducted into office aren't gonna just be there quietly doing nothing at all for 4 years while you patiently wait for two more "hopefully-less-bad" candidates to vote for. Don't be so impassive, I implore you.[/quote]
Voting 3rd party is the same as not voting. Be realistic.
I feel like I can't vote for Hillary on principal cuz of the DNC shenanigans. Doesn't feel like a democratic election after that shit got leaked. So now my options are to not vote, or vote for Trump. I'm leaning heavily towards not voting, but maybe Trump can convince me by November that he's not going to be a disaster.
Somebody should make Hinckley Jr watch Taxi starring Queen Latifah and Jimmy Fallon, maybe he might go ape shit again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCjiNBiEUaQ
Somebody should make Hinckley Jr watch Taxi starring Queen Latifah and Jimmy Fallon, maybe he might go ape shit again
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCjiNBiEUaQ[/youtube]
-protox3id rather vote for a liar with a lot experience on the hill
completely agree with u x3 but just a heads up the white house isn't on a hill... that's a canada thing
Looks like you dont read the hill very often ;)
[quote=-proto][quote=x3]id rather vote for a liar with a lot experience on the hill[/quote]
completely agree with u x3 but just a heads up the white house isn't on a hill... that's a canada thing[/quote]
Looks like you dont read [url=http://thehill.com/]the hill[/url] very often ;)
sacHallowlike sac keeps coming into these threads with incomprehensive and incoherent bullshit disguised as facts relevant to his argument. like at the very least format it properly and properly summarise whatever sources you're using. your rhetoric is fucking despicable to the point where it's impossible to decipher where you're going with your arguments; you're just pushing some right-wing position at whatever cost.
i mean i might just be a dumb kid but i mean if you're knowingly adressing clueless "18 year-old yankeedoodles" at least give them some shit that's relevant to what's being discussed.
all i did was react to this quote jaegthe sad fact is that a lot of people actually think like trump and say the things trump say, theyve just never had a voice in the us gov that ran for president until trump
with examples of racists in thigh ranking US position to show how bogus the statement is, and i get mobbed by a crowd who is too daft or malicious to get the point.
it just boggles my mind how people with degrees in political science or american history or whatever can come in here and maintain a level of discussion appropriate for a gaming forum and yet you somehow can't adapt your rhetoric to the context. this leaves me convinced that you're deliberately using your rhetoric to further polarise the discussion or at best dilute it.
i'm not trying to argue against your right to partake in the discussion, i just don't buy that you're actually that bad at structure and formatting.
[quote=sac][quote=Hallow]like sac keeps coming into these threads with incomprehensive and incoherent bullshit disguised as facts relevant to his argument. like at the very least format it properly and properly summarise whatever sources you're using. your rhetoric is fucking despicable to the point where it's impossible to decipher where you're going with your arguments; you're just pushing some right-wing position at whatever cost.
i mean i might just be a dumb kid but i mean if you're knowingly adressing clueless "18 year-old yankeedoodles" at least give them some shit that's relevant to what's being discussed.[/quote]
all i did was react to this quote [quote=jaegthe sad fact is that a lot of people actually think like trump and say the things trump say, theyve just never had a voice in the us gov that ran for president until trump][/quote]
with examples of racists in thigh ranking US position to show how bogus the statement is, and i get mobbed by a crowd who is too daft or malicious to get the point.[/quote]
it just boggles my mind how people with degrees in political science or american history or whatever can come in here and maintain a level of discussion appropriate for a gaming forum and yet you somehow can't adapt your rhetoric to the context. this leaves me convinced that you're deliberately using your rhetoric to further polarise the discussion or at best dilute it.
i'm not trying to argue against your right to partake in the discussion, i just don't buy that you're actually that bad at structure and formatting.
in elections all of the candidates are evil, but you have to vote for the lesser evil, no?
in elections all of the candidates are evil, but you have to vote for the lesser evil, no?
seanbudobe_SpaceCadetI understand where you are coming from but it really goes back to having no good choices in this election. Since I refuse to vote for Hillary, that either means I don't vote at all or vote Drumpf by default. I want better options! Going to have to settle on waiting 4 more years and hoping.
Look, I don't give a shit if you're an alt right racist with no grasp of how our economy works and want to vote for Drumpf solely because you hate the dirty goatfuckers or whatever, but please don't vote Drumpf just because you don't like Hillary. At the very least, just stay home on election day. Or vote third party. You DO have options.
Also, you aren't "waiting 4 more years". The candidate who gets inducted into office aren't gonna just be there quietly doing nothing at all for 4 years while you patiently wait for two more "hopefully-less-bad" candidates to vote for. Don't be so impassive, I implore you.
Voting 3rd party is the same as not voting. Be realistic.
I feel like I can't vote for Hillary on principal cuz of the DNC shenanigans. Doesn't feel like a democratic election after that shit got leaked. So now my options are to not vote, or vote for Trump. I'm leaning heavily towards not voting, but maybe Trump can convince me by November that he's not going to be a disaster.
Voting 3rd party in an election where a 3rd party candidate is polling at >5% actually matters
And you should show up to vote down ticket regardless
[quote=seanbud][quote=obe_][quote=SpaceCadet]I understand where you are coming from but it really goes back to having no good choices in this election. Since I refuse to vote for Hillary, that either means I don't vote at all or vote Drumpf by default. I want better options! Going to have to settle on waiting 4 more years and hoping.[/quote]
Look, I don't give a shit if you're an alt right racist with no grasp of how our economy works and want to vote for Drumpf solely because you hate the dirty goatfuckers or whatever, but [b]please[/b] don't vote Drumpf just because you don't like Hillary. At the very least, just stay home on election day. Or vote third party. You DO have options.
Also, you aren't "waiting 4 more years". The candidate who gets inducted into office aren't gonna just be there quietly doing nothing at all for 4 years while you patiently wait for two more "hopefully-less-bad" candidates to vote for. Don't be so impassive, I implore you.[/quote]
Voting 3rd party is the same as not voting. Be realistic.
I feel like I can't vote for Hillary on principal cuz of the DNC shenanigans. Doesn't feel like a democratic election after that shit got leaked. So now my options are to not vote, or vote for Trump. I'm leaning heavily towards not voting, but maybe Trump can convince me by November that he's not going to be a disaster.[/quote]
Voting 3rd party in an election where a 3rd party candidate is polling at >5% actually matters
And you should show up to vote down ticket regardless
Also, not voting because you don't like the presidential candidates is retarded when there's still the choice of senators and representatives both in DC and in your state legislatures. You know, the people who actually make the laws.
Also, not voting because you don't like the presidential candidates is retarded when there's still the choice of senators and representatives both in DC and in your state legislatures. You know, the people who actually make the laws.
Yeah^
You can abstain for the presidential vote, vote cross party, or vote 3rd party and still vote hard R or D on the rest of the ballot if you want. This is going to be a big election and even if I'd rather you don't do it, one of the best ways to prevent Hillary from having too much power if she wins is to show up and get as many Republicans as possible in the House and Senate. There's a lot more at stake this election than just the presidency. If you care about the SCOTUS appointments but dont want Trump, getting in Senators who will try to block Hillary's more liberal appointments is your best bet.
Yeah^
You can abstain for the presidential vote, vote cross party, or vote 3rd party and still vote hard R or D on the rest of the ballot if you want. This is going to be a big election and even if I'd rather you don't do it, one of the best ways to prevent Hillary from having too much power if she wins is to show up and get as many Republicans as possible in the House and Senate. There's a lot more at stake this election than just the presidency. If you care about the SCOTUS appointments but dont want Trump, getting in Senators who will try to block Hillary's more liberal appointments is your best bet.