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Different Sens for Different Classes; How To
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Alright chaps, apologies in advance because this has no doubt been asked before, but how exactly do I go about creating different sens for different classes please? Specifics, if you will.

Ideally without fucking up my game (i have a history of doing this when messing with files)

Can go no lower than 15 in on scout but that's too low for my soldier rocket jumping, and changing dpi on my mouse all the time is a ballache.

Alright chaps, apologies in advance because this has no doubt been asked before, but how exactly do I go about creating different sens for different classes please? Specifics, if you will.

Ideally without fucking up my game (i have a history of doing this when messing with files)

Can go no lower than 15 in on scout but that's too low for my soldier rocket jumping, and changing dpi on my mouse all the time is a ballache.
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#2
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In the configs folder, create different configs for each class (call each file scout, heavyweapons, medic, etc.), then put in "sensitivity #."

No clue if you need the quotations; I don't use them and it works for me.

In the configs folder, create different configs for each class (call each file scout, heavyweapons, medic, etc.), then put in "sensitivity #."

No clue if you need the quotations; I don't use them and it works for me.
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#3
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Under

/tf/cfg

create

medic.cfg
scout.cfg
engineer.cfg
(etc)

At the top of each, add the line

sensitivity 1.0

replacing 1.0 with whatever you want.

For bonus, sensitivities per weapon slot, make some aliases and have the alias for "slot 1" also run the sensitivity command, etc.

I think it's a silly idea to have different sensitivities though.

Under
[code]/tf/cfg[/code]
create
[code]medic.cfg
scout.cfg
engineer.cfg
(etc)[/code]
At the top of each, add the line
[code]sensitivity 1.0[/code]
replacing 1.0 with whatever you want.

For bonus, sensitivities per weapon slot, make some aliases and have the alias for "slot 1" also run the sensitivity command, etc.

I think it's a silly idea to have different sensitivities though.
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#4
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if you do not already have class config files, create them (plaintext files called scout.cfg, soldier.cfg, et al), and put in them the command "sensitivity n.n" where n is a number between 1 and 9. fool around with different values till you find the ones you like the best.

I think it's smart to keep your sensitivities close though or you might have trouble developing muscle memory aim. For instance, my scout sens is 1.8 and my soldier and medic sens is 2.0.

if you do not already have class config files, create them (plaintext files called scout.cfg, soldier.cfg, et al), and put in them the command "sensitivity n.n" where n is a number between 1 and 9. fool around with different values till you find the ones you like the best.

I think it's smart to keep your sensitivities close though or you might have trouble developing muscle memory aim. For instance, my scout sens is 1.8 and my soldier and medic sens is 2.0.
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#5
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create 9 different cfg files with the full names of the classes (like heavyweapons), and inside the file named for the class you want just put sensitivity <your sens here> then put those files in Team Fortress 2/tf/custom/mycustomstuff/cfg

create 9 different cfg files with the full names of the classes (like heavyweapons), and inside the file named for the class you want just put sensitivity <your sens here> then put those files in Team Fortress 2/tf/custom/mycustomstuff/cfg
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You could also try using povohats accel driver. I used to use different sensitivities for Soldier, Scout, Demo, and Sniper but I found it easier to just use accel. I can use a lower base sense with pretty high accel so I can still track comfortably and do fast flicks to rocket jump and still be able to turn. It takes a bit of getting used to though.

You could also try using povohats accel driver. I used to use different sensitivities for Soldier, Scout, Demo, and Sniper but I found it easier to just use accel. I can use a lower base sense with pretty high accel so I can still track comfortably and do fast flicks to rocket jump and still be able to turn. It takes a bit of getting used to though.
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#7
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Cheers team, will look into all of the above.

Appreciate it.

I know some people say different sens is daft because of its effect on muscle memory, but my 15 inch scout sens is just too slow for when I play soldier and probably demo too. I think mean soldier sens is about 9 inches, and I can see why. I'd probably have about 10 or 11 on soldier. I changed it today and instantly began hitting a lot more/ a lot more easily.

Cheers team, will look into all of the above.

Appreciate it.

I know some people say different sens is daft because of its effect on muscle memory, but my 15 inch scout sens is just too slow for when I play soldier and probably demo too. I think mean soldier sens is about 9 inches, and I can see why. I'd probably have about 10 or 11 on soldier. I changed it today and instantly began hitting a lot more/ a lot more easily.
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#8
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I'm the same, I can't play with high sens on scout and I can't play with low sens on soldier. You get used to having 2 different sensitivities really quickly, you don't even notice it when changing class after a while.

I'm the same, I can't play with high sens on scout and I can't play with low sens on soldier. You get used to having 2 different sensitivities really quickly, you don't even notice it when changing class after a while.
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#9
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If someone says its bad for your muscle memory its right but only if you're used to one sensitivity.
Get this, you can get used to many sensitivities just like you're used to normal and scoped sensitivity

If someone says its bad for your muscle memory its right but only if you're used to one sensitivity.
Get this, you can get used to many sensitivities just like you're used to normal and scoped sensitivity
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#10
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Aye.

As non-insightful as it is to hear, I think it really is true that you just have to play with what feels comfortable for you, even if it involves multiple sensitivities.

Anyway, if it's good enough for some of the best players, it's good enough for me.

Aye.

As non-insightful as it is to hear, I think it really is true that you just have to play with what feels comfortable for you, even if it involves multiple sensitivities.

Anyway, if it's good enough for some of the best players, it's good enough for me.
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#11
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since nobody is listing the exact filenames:

  • demoman.cfg
  • engineer.cfg
  • heavyweapons.cfg
  • medic.cfg
  • pyro.cfg
  • scout.cfg
  • sniper.cfg
  • soldier.cfg
  • spy.cfg

keep in mind that although these are "configs" they're technically just scripts that get run every time you change to the class. so, if you want to change your sensitivity value for each class, you'll need to enter:

sensitivity 6

for every single class, even if you don't want to change it for that class (of course filling in 6 for the value). scripts have no sense of "normal" or resetting values.

since nobody is listing the exact filenames:

[list]
[*] demoman.cfg
[*] engineer.cfg
[*] heavyweapons.cfg
[*] medic.cfg
[*] pyro.cfg
[*] scout.cfg
[*] sniper.cfg
[*] soldier.cfg
[*] spy.cfg
[/list]

keep in mind that although these are "configs" they're technically just scripts that get run every time you change to the class. so, if you want to change your sensitivity value for each class, you'll need to enter:
[code]sensitivity 6[/code]
for every single class, even if you don't want to change it for that class (of course filling in 6 for the value). scripts have no sense of "normal" or resetting values.
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#12
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Seeing improvement already on soldier.

Thanks for your help guys, much appreciated :)

Seeing improvement already on soldier.

Thanks for your help guys, much appreciated :)
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Roaring success so far, except that I can't hit shit with my shotgun. It looks like I'm using the mouse with my face when I try.

How would I go about having a difference sens for shotgun, if you'd be so kind?

Roaring success so far, except that I can't hit shit with my shotgun. It looks like I'm using the mouse with my face when I try.

How would I go about having a difference sens for shotgun, if you'd be so kind?
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#14
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bind 1 "slot1; sensitivity x"
bind 2 "slot2; sensitivity y"
assuming you use 1 and 2 to switch weapons, i dont know how to go about it if you use quickswitch

bind 1 "slot1; sensitivity x"
bind 2 "slot2; sensitivity y"
assuming you use 1 and 2 to switch weapons, i dont know how to go about it if you use quickswitch
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#15
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I wouldn't recommend changing sens for different weapons it'll fuck up your movement

I wouldn't recommend changing sens for different weapons it'll fuck up your movement
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AdebisiRoaring success so far, except that I can't hit shit with my shotgun. It looks like I'm using the mouse with my face when I try.

How would I go about having a difference sens for shotgun, if you'd be so kind?

In all honestly I'd just recommend trying to stick it out with the sensitivity you're used to playing with on soldier and try to develop the muscle memory so that your shotgun can be good on a higher sensitivity

But to answer your question, what I do is create profiles for all of your weapons (or aliases) inside your individual class cfg files. For example:

Alias primary "slot1; r_drawviewmodel 0; sensitivity 1.7"
Alias secondary "slot2; sensitivity 1.3"
Alias melee "slot3; r_drawviewmodel 1; sensitivity 1.7

Side note: not having an r_drawviewmodel value on the secondary weapon simply re-uses the last value for r_drawviewmodel, so if you go from your melee to your secondary weapon, you will see your shotgun viewmodel.

Now all that's left to do is bind the aliases to certain things, like the number keys

bind "1" "primary"
bind "2" "secondary"
bind "3" "melee"

and you should be all set. The only problem you might run into is if you use the quickswitch key (default is q) heavily. This simply reverts to the previous slot that you were at, without loading all the other things that are in the typical alias for that weapon slot. It's possible to make another quickswitch thing work, but it involves quite a bit of work. That being said, it is still possible though.

Hope this helps!!

[quote=Adebisi]Roaring success so far, except that I can't hit shit with my shotgun. It looks like I'm using the mouse with my face when I try.

How would I go about having a difference sens for shotgun, if you'd be so kind?[/quote]
In all honestly I'd just recommend trying to stick it out with the sensitivity you're used to playing with on soldier and try to develop the muscle memory so that your shotgun can be good on a higher sensitivity

But to answer your question, what I do is create profiles for all of your weapons (or aliases) inside your individual class cfg files. For example:
[code]
Alias primary "slot1; r_drawviewmodel 0; sensitivity 1.7"
Alias secondary "slot2; sensitivity 1.3"
Alias melee "slot3; r_drawviewmodel 1; sensitivity 1.7[/code]
Side note: not having an r_drawviewmodel value on the secondary weapon simply re-uses the last value for r_drawviewmodel, so if you go from your melee to your secondary weapon, you will see your shotgun viewmodel.

Now all that's left to do is bind the aliases to certain things, like the number keys
[code]
bind "1" "primary"
bind "2" "secondary"
bind "3" "melee"[/code]
and you should be all set. The only problem you might run into is if you use the quickswitch key (default is q) heavily. This simply reverts to the previous slot that you were at, without loading all the other things that are in the typical alias for that weapon slot. It's possible to make another quickswitch thing work, but it involves quite a bit of work. That being said, it is still possible though.

Hope this helps!!
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#17
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Cheers.

Yeah I use the mouse wheel to change weapons (apparently this is for mongos?) or even q.
I'll have a think about using what you said, but I guess I'll follow your advice and try and improve my aim. I'm just not at all used to high sens in games.

Cheers.

Yeah I use the mouse wheel to change weapons (apparently this is for mongos?) or even q.
I'll have a think about using what you said, but I guess I'll follow your advice and try and improve my aim. I'm just not at all used to high sens in games.
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On a side note, what a spastic I was before, playing soldier on 15.9 inches per 360.

Feels so much better already. It's turned me into Mike, compared to what I was before. I'm still pretty low at 11 ish

On a side note, what a spastic I was before, playing soldier on 15.9 inches per 360.

Feels so much better already. It's turned me into Mike, compared to what I was before. I'm still pretty low at 11 ish
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To anyone who does this:

Do you have difficulty switching between classes?

What I mean is, when I play scout after playing soldier (with a much high sens on soldier), scout feels really sluggish at first and it takes me a while to get used to it again.And then soldier feels like lightspeed after playing scout for a prolonged period.

To anyone who does this:

Do you have difficulty switching between classes?

What I mean is, when I play scout after playing soldier (with a much high sens on soldier), scout feels really sluggish at first and it takes me a while to get used to it again.And then soldier feels like lightspeed after playing scout for a prolonged period.
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#20
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AdebisiTo anyone who does this:

Do you have difficulty switching between classes?

What I mean is, when I play scout after playing soldier (with a much high sens on soldier), scout feels really sluggish at first and it takes me a while to get used to it again.And then soldier feels like lightspeed after playing scout for a prolonged period.

You get used to it after a while and you stop noticing it.

[quote=Adebisi]To anyone who does this:

Do you have difficulty switching between classes?

What I mean is, when I play scout after playing soldier (with a much high sens on soldier), scout feels really sluggish at first and it takes me a while to get used to it again.And then soldier feels like lightspeed after playing scout for a prolonged period.[/quote]

You get used to it after a while and you stop noticing it.
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HobNobsAdebisiTo anyone who does this:

Do you have difficulty switching between classes?

What I mean is, when I play scout after playing soldier (with a much high sens on soldier), scout feels really sluggish at first and it takes me a while to get used to it again.And then soldier feels like lightspeed after playing scout for a prolonged period.

You get used to it after a while and you stop noticing it.

Cheers man, exactly what I was wondering.

After a while I return to normal, but it's really strange at first. When I go scout it's like moving my mouse in treacle for the first 10 mins.

But now I have this and use high sens for soldier, I couldn't go back to using the same sens as I do for scout. It's improved my rocket jumping so much already.

[quote=HobNobs][quote=Adebisi]To anyone who does this:

Do you have difficulty switching between classes?

What I mean is, when I play scout after playing soldier (with a much high sens on soldier), scout feels really sluggish at first and it takes me a while to get used to it again.And then soldier feels like lightspeed after playing scout for a prolonged period.[/quote]

You get used to it after a while and you stop noticing it.[/quote]
Cheers man, exactly what I was wondering.

After a while I return to normal, but it's really strange at first. When I go scout it's like moving my mouse in treacle for the first 10 mins.

But now I have this and use high sens for soldier, I couldn't go back to using the same sens as I do for scout. It's improved my rocket jumping so much already.
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#22
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AdebisiTo anyone who does this:

Do you have difficulty switching between classes?

What I mean is, when I play scout after playing soldier (with a much high sens on soldier), scout feels really sluggish at first and it takes me a while to get used to it again.And then soldier feels like lightspeed after playing scout for a prolonged period.

I'm very much used to switching between scout and soldier, i can use the shotgun on soldier just as well too.

[quote=Adebisi]To anyone who does this:

Do you have difficulty switching between classes?

What I mean is, when I play scout after playing soldier (with a much high sens on soldier), scout feels really sluggish at first and it takes me a while to get used to it again.And then soldier feels like lightspeed after playing scout for a prolonged period.[/quote]

I'm very much used to switching between scout and soldier, i can use the shotgun on soldier just as well too.
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sopsAdebisiTo anyone who does this:

Do you have difficulty switching between classes?

What I mean is, when I play scout after playing soldier (with a much high sens on soldier), scout feels really sluggish at first and it takes me a while to get used to it again.And then soldier feels like lightspeed after playing scout for a prolonged period.

I'm very much used to switching between scout and soldier, i can use the shotgun on soldier just as well too.

No adjustment period?

As I say, scout feels like my mouse is moving in treacle after playing solly

[quote=sops][quote=Adebisi]To anyone who does this:

Do you have difficulty switching between classes?

What I mean is, when I play scout after playing soldier (with a much high sens on soldier), scout feels really sluggish at first and it takes me a while to get used to it again.And then soldier feels like lightspeed after playing scout for a prolonged period.[/quote]

I'm very much used to switching between scout and soldier, i can use the shotgun on soldier just as well too.[/quote]

No adjustment period?

As I say, scout feels like my mouse is moving in treacle after playing solly
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AdebisisopsAdebisiTo anyone who does this:

Do you have difficulty switching between classes?

What I mean is, when I play scout after playing soldier (with a much high sens on soldier), scout feels really sluggish at first and it takes me a while to get used to it again.And then soldier feels like lightspeed after playing scout for a prolonged period.

I'm very much used to switching between scout and soldier, i can use the shotgun on soldier just as well too.

No adjustment period?

As I say, scout feels like my mouse is moving in treacle after playing solly

I've been using different class sensitivities for a couple of months, took me some weeks of to get everything comfortable.
I think that it's just a matter of how many hours you put into getting used to them.

[quote=Adebisi][quote=sops][quote=Adebisi]To anyone who does this:

Do you have difficulty switching between classes?

What I mean is, when I play scout after playing soldier (with a much high sens on soldier), scout feels really sluggish at first and it takes me a while to get used to it again.And then soldier feels like lightspeed after playing scout for a prolonged period.[/quote]

I'm very much used to switching between scout and soldier, i can use the shotgun on soldier just as well too.[/quote]

No adjustment period?

As I say, scout feels like my mouse is moving in treacle after playing solly[/quote]

I've been using different class sensitivities for a couple of months, took me some weeks of to get everything comfortable.
I think that it's just a matter of how many hours you put into getting used to them.
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#25
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sopsAdebisisopsAdebisiTo anyone who does this:

Do you have difficulty switching between classes?

What I mean is, when I play scout after playing soldier (with a much high sens on soldier), scout feels really sluggish at first and it takes me a while to get used to it again.And then soldier feels like lightspeed after playing scout for a prolonged period.

I'm very much used to switching between scout and soldier, i can use the shotgun on soldier just as well too.

No adjustment period?

As I say, scout feels like my mouse is moving in treacle after playing solly

I've been using different class sensitivities for a couple of months, took me some weeks of to get everything comfortable.
I think that it's just a matter of how many hours you put into getting used to them.

Yeah probably so. I'll just sink the time in.

Im a complete idiot with sens. I change my scout sens to every point between 15.6 and 16.1 inches all the time. I like 16.1 but sometimes I lose a 1v 1 and it feels like i was too slow, or some stupid part of me says it must be too slow for me to out DM scouts with high sens, even though top scouts have had slower and I usually do pretty well with it.

I

[quote=sops][quote=Adebisi][quote=sops][quote=Adebisi]To anyone who does this:

Do you have difficulty switching between classes?

What I mean is, when I play scout after playing soldier (with a much high sens on soldier), scout feels really sluggish at first and it takes me a while to get used to it again.And then soldier feels like lightspeed after playing scout for a prolonged period.[/quote]

I'm very much used to switching between scout and soldier, i can use the shotgun on soldier just as well too.[/quote]

No adjustment period?

As I say, scout feels like my mouse is moving in treacle after playing solly[/quote]

I've been using different class sensitivities for a couple of months, took me some weeks of to get everything comfortable.
I think that it's just a matter of how many hours you put into getting used to them.[/quote]
Yeah probably so. I'll just sink the time in.

Im a complete idiot with sens. I change my scout sens to every point between 15.6 and 16.1 inches all the time. I like 16.1 but sometimes I lose a 1v 1 and it feels like i was too slow, or some stupid part of me says it must be too slow for me to out DM scouts with high sens, even though top scouts have had slower and I usually do pretty well with it.

I
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