Every time anyone reports that they've been down there, except geel, they always come back with the same message

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACfafLuLmy8

the loch-n-load only has more range because there's no random projectile spin at 1:25 in that video you would see that if you get a pill with a lucky trajectory and no spin on it, it has the EXACT same range as the LnL. Also by doing 100 dmg at any range I meant at any range it can directly hit someone.

LnL is strong but to call it broken is just down right wrong.

There's a lot of people in this thread complaining about how highlander has destroyed tf2's chances of becoming an e-sport. Vipa (a plat highlander player) literally got banned from tftv a couple months back for making a post replying to engima in which all he said was that highlander isn't the reason tf2 hasn't become a huge e-sport. 6's players are very quick to shit on highlander and get really angry when anyone says that highlander isn't the cause of all tf2's woes, but if you guys think about it do you really think that 6's would have a much bigger player base if highlander had never been invented? A large percentage of the people that fill 6's rolls on highlander teams also play 6's at the same time and if highlander had never been invented I doubt many spy/engineer/heavy/sniper mains would be playing competitive tf2 at all. On top of that there's the fact that a lot of people that start in highlander then move on to 6's. Once you take all that into account, how much of an increase in the 6's player base would you really see if highlander had never existed? 25%? 10%? None at all? Certainly nothing notable.

The real problem is that, because of Valve making no effort to push tf2 as a competitive game for almost its entire existence, the main player base of tf2 simply doesn't see tf2 as a competitive game. It's frustrating, I know, because it's entirely out of our control. Valve does what Valve wants. However, just because people are annoyed that tf2 is a niche game and Valve is the only one that can do anything about it it, this open hostility with the highlander community when there doesn't seem to be any evidence that highlander not existing would significantly increase the 6's player base is still really silly.

is the game not accessible to new players? I got introduced to tf2 through watching comp games never played or saw pubs. How fucking stupid do we think people are it's not complicated if you've played tf2 before.

edit: To actually throw some discussion in the mix. I believe we should honestly have 5cp and other gamemodes supported in a big map pool. maybe like couple koth maps, couple 5cp and couple ad. This will make the game more reflective to pub play which seems to be something people are going for. It will make team matchups really interesting (say like 1 team is better on koth or 5cp then even on a/d or whatever). Only problem is see is - out of embracing even koth for a while now we've only ended up with 1 map that's being played and even then most people don't like playing it (at least in europe) and most of the maps just blow. I'm really tired so this post is probably ass but i feel it conveys at least the basics of what i wanted to put out there.

This is actually incorrect, in his video at :22 he states that he removed the speed bonus on the LnL so we can assume that if you re add the speed bonus the range would be even greater.

You'll also note at the beginning of that video he mentions that the speed bonus on the LnL has been removed. The speed bonus gives it a significantly greater range.

yeah unless they gave it custom gravity it would have to have higher range. it literally comes with moving faster.

but sigsegv never voices over his videos; he always uses edited-in text. you didnt need speakers to read that he removed the projectile bonus

I wonder if shooting the LnL and grenade at the same time with both being perfectly horizontal would mean both would hit the ground at the same time, as would be the case in real life.

http://www.ugcleague.com/team_page.cfm?clan_id=23345

First of all why the bump, second of all only two of the people on the roster have played IM

http://i.imgur.com/cHiYJeN.png

more than half the roster has played IM o_O

does gabiduo count

yeah i wasnt sure