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Valve Demo System Feedback
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#1
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I tried out the demo system on its launch to give it a chance and Valve somehow managed to create a replacement for P-Rec that doesn't even support all the features P-Rec had so I went back to P-Rec and it turns out you can't even play casual with P-Rec installed so I figured I'd finally get around to making this thread. This thread is meant to discuss any shortfalls/missing features/bugs with the demo system and group them all into one place so if you have feedback that I haven't listed, speak up and I'll add it to the list. Also, if anyone knows how to contact Valve to give them this feedback that'd be cool.

Bugs:

  • ds_enable 3 (only record on tournament mode) works for pubs. I don't recall this being an issue on launch but I have dozens of demos from pub servers with this setting.
  • ds_enable 3 records upon entering a tournament mode enabled servers, not upon the start of the match ie: warmup is recorded.

Feature requests:

  • A demo naming format to change the names of our demos (eg: allow us to change the placement of date, time, map, teamnames etc in the filename).
    I tried out the demo system on its launch to give it a chance and Valve somehow managed to create a replacement for P-Rec that doesn't even support all the features P-Rec had so I went back to P-Rec and it turns out you can't even play casual with P-Rec installed so I figured I'd finally get around to making this thread. This thread is meant to discuss any shortfalls/missing features/bugs with the demo system and group them all into one place so if you have feedback that I haven't listed, speak up and I'll add it to the list. Also, if anyone knows how to contact Valve to give them this feedback that'd be cool.

    Bugs:
    [list]
    [*] ds_enable 3 (only record on tournament mode) works for pubs. I don't recall this being an issue on launch but I have dozens of demos from pub servers with this setting.
    [*] ds_enable 3 records upon entering a tournament mode enabled servers, not upon the start of the match ie: warmup is recorded.
    [/list]

    Feature requests:
    [list]
    [*] A demo naming format to change the names of our demos (eg: allow us to change the placement of date, time, map, teamnames etc in the filename).
    [list]
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    #2
    12 Frags +
    ShankyBugs:
    • ds_enable 3 (only record on tournament mode) works for pubs. I don't recall this being an issue on launch but I have dozens of demos from pub servers with this setting.

    That's not a bug, pubs are on mp_tournament 1 now.

    [quote=Shanky]
    Bugs:
    [list]
    [*] ds_enable 3 (only record on tournament mode) works for pubs. I don't recall this being an issue on launch but I have dozens of demos from pub servers with this setting.
    [/quote]

    That's not a bug, pubs are on mp_tournament 1 now.
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    #3
    15 Frags +

    If they just copied P-REC, it'd be perfect. I don't like Demo Support because it records pregame, records casual and mm games (I don't really need those demos, if only there was a separate option for games with mp_tournament and MM) and, as aleady mentions, because of the way demos are named (having a map name in demo file's name makes things a lot easier).
    But I personally don't play casual and mm much so I'm ok with keeping P-REC.

    If they just copied P-REC, it'd be perfect. I don't like Demo Support because it records pregame, records casual and mm games (I don't really need those demos, if only there was a separate option for games with mp_tournament and MM) and, as aleady mentions, because of the way demos are named (having a map name in demo file's name makes things a lot easier).
    But I personally don't play casual and mm much so I'm ok with keeping P-REC.
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    #4
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    DatDrummerGuyShankyBugs:
    • ds_enable 3 (only record on tournament mode) works for pubs. I don't recall this being an issue on launch but I have dozens of demos from pub servers with this setting.

    That's not a bug, pubs are on mp_tournament 1 now.

    Valve needs to add an additional check for mp_tournament_readymode 0 so that it only triggers for non-MM mp_tournaments. All leagues use readymode 0, which is team-based ready up, whereas Valve uses readymode 1, which is player-based ready up.

    edit: according to erynn pugchamp uses readymode 1, so adding this check would mean valve's demo system doesn't record pugs on that service

    [quote=DatDrummerGuy][quote=Shanky]
    Bugs:
    [list]
    [*] ds_enable 3 (only record on tournament mode) works for pubs. I don't recall this being an issue on launch but I have dozens of demos from pub servers with this setting.
    [/quote]

    That's not a bug, pubs are on mp_tournament 1 now.[/quote]
    Valve needs to add an additional check for mp_tournament_readymode 0 so that it only triggers for non-MM mp_tournaments. All leagues use readymode 0, which is team-based ready up, whereas Valve uses readymode 1, which is player-based ready up.

    edit: according to erynn pugchamp uses readymode 1, so adding this check would mean valve's demo system doesn't record pugs on that service
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    #5
    7 Frags +
    yttriumedit: according to erynn pugchamp uses readymode 1, so adding this check would mean valve's demo system doesn't record pugs on that service

    Same for faceit (except the game starts either when everyone is ready or when the time runs out).

    [quote=yttrium]edit: according to erynn pugchamp uses readymode 1, so adding this check would mean valve's demo system doesn't record pugs on that service[/quote]
    Same for faceit (except the game starts either when everyone is ready or when the time runs out).
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    #6
    1 Frags +

    question is tho, is not having pug demos thrown in there a feature?

    question is tho, is not having pug demos thrown in there a feature?
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