Let this website die already

"tf2c is shit" is not an unpopular opinion

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I don't think the offclassing possibilities is what makes 6's superior to highlander.
Permasniping is always more cancerous than people yelling at retards to stop offclassing.

I don't think the option should be there either. But since it is there, the config should at least disallow the offclasses so people don't get banned for not knowing it was a no offclassing lobby.

Off course it's going to sound silly when you wrench it from context, but that's the way we present ourselves as a gamemode, if I lay it out like this "6's is better because you can utulize the classes' strengths in certain situations, whereas in highlander there are periods where certain classes are useless, tf2 was meant for you to switch up your class" and then that same person goes and plays a 6's lobby and gets absolutely berated for even switching to sniper, right or wrong timing, seems kind of redundant right?

If he switches to sniper at the wrong time why shouldn't he be called an idiot

Fair, but poor play is different from restriction.

isn't the no offclassing just saying no full-time offclassing?
players can still ofclass but only a certain percentage of time.

You can literally make lobbies that are no offclass allowed.

whats the point of soapboxing about tf2c on tftv

these threads are getting tiresome

I didn't realise I'm not allowed to post on a literal tf2 forum because babby gets twired :>

At this point we should just have a tf2center subforum because its actually insane how many of these threads there are

Possessing this option allows for people to take part in semi-serious lobbies, so that every lobby isn't just an offclassing discombobulation.

I don't think offclassing is the main decider between the best gamemode currently in TF2, but it is just a small factor of what makes 6s so much fun.

Running perma-offclasses in 6s is the definition of toxic behavior, which is why they ban it. The 6s meta has been established for a long time, and if you break the 6s meta, you're no longer playing 6s the way its supposed to be played.

Unless the person permasniping is hitting all of their shots and is in the highest levels of TF2 (which the majority of people playing TF2 Center are not in), then permasniping would certainly not be viable at all.

on the plus side it's resulted in a 23% decrease of leaky sniper movies

You can't, you can, however, limit offclassing to last holds/pushes.

the main reason why im not against no offclassing is that a decent sniper can lay the largest turds all over the lobby and it's really aids to play against when the team doesn't know how to counter it.

offclassing engi/pyro/heavy on last is fine and is a viable strat, but going sniper because icanclickheadslol makes the game far less fun, even if that sniper would be more effective on scout

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it has nothing to do with you not being able to post threads about it, but the discussion of people wanting to abandon tf2c for something better like faceit or tf2stadium has been going on for a while now.

http://www.teamfortress.tv/21665/tf2center-denying-access-to-users-with-adblock
http://www.teamfortress.tv/36220/tf2-center-adblock-fuckery

Even though it's just 2 threads, a lot of people have agreed that tf2c isn't a good site, just as you had listed in your original post. It's not that your opinion is necessarily unpopular, but the phrase "preaching to the choir" kind of applies here.

They're classes in the game gemm, all I'm saying is I think something for new players should not have unnecessary restrictions to prevent alienation, obviously if they come in thinking they can play pyro full time then they're just uninformed, but someone who actually personally invests themselves into wanting to start 6's and are exposed to such clenching restrictions that aren't even present in leagues (the understandably strictest entity in tf2) seems silly.

But that doesn't offer anything to the thread, surely if there are threads about it, it's a legitimate problem we need to address and discuss, and I honestly can't see a better place to discuss such things, what you're saying is the tftv equivalent of reddit saying "ew why so many valve discussion threads, I want memes XD"

We've had so many threads about how TF2C is shitty, there's nothing new to be said. Want to do something about it? Don't use the site. Use TF2Stadium. But I know no one will do that.

We might as well have another "The competitive future of TF2" thread while we're at it.

tf2center is not good for new players.

read the edit :)

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I hate tf2 centre but its the only place I can go for games around my skill level, faceit is either above my skill level or nobody is on it, I'll get molested on pugchamp and tf2stadium has as many people as england has perfect sets of teeth. Its literal aids but the only place I can go.

https://forums.tf2center.com/

pretty sure you dont see any negative thing said about tf2center on their forums cuz they delete any thread that has anything negative

It is allowed to offclass on last.