From ETF2L frontpage:
"After some discussion with both ESEA and Ozfortress we ended up going with the following whitelist.
The differences from season 25 are:
Banned: Rescue Ranger
Unbanned: Dalokohs Bar, Pomson 6000"
http://whitelist.tf/6853
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From ETF2L frontpage:
"After some discussion with both ESEA and Ozfortress we ended up going with the following whitelist.
The differences from season 25 are:
Banned: Rescue Ranger
Unbanned: Dalokohs Bar, Pomson 6000"
http://whitelist.tf/6853
accidentally hit spacebar before typing out the thread properly rip
Jarate not banned?
otherwise seems good
Jarate not banned?
otherwise seems good
damneasyGood whitelist
Return of damneasy to prem?
[quote=damneasy]Good whitelist[/quote]
Return of damneasy to prem?
jarate not banned FeelsBadMan
jarate not banned FeelsBadMan
toon-tpfdamneasyGood whitelist
Return of damneasy to prem?
I was actually joking that I wasnt going to play this season just because of the whitelist :p
(I might play after all though, but prob not in prem)
[quote=toon-tpf][quote=damneasy]Good whitelist[/quote]
Return of damneasy to prem?[/quote]
I was actually joking that I wasnt going to play this season just because of the whitelist :p
(I might play after all though, but prob not in prem)
Jarate still not fucking banned
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Jarate still not fucking banned
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damneasytoon-tpfdamneasyGood whitelist
Return of damneasy to prem?
I was actually joking that I wasnt going to play this season just because of the whitelist :p
(I might play after all though, but prob not in prem)
Double demoknight strat for high confirmed ( sil vs damneasy ), that will be intresting. hehe.
Best of luck :)
[quote=damneasy][quote=toon-tpf][quote=damneasy]Good whitelist[/quote]
Return of damneasy to prem?[/quote]
I was actually joking that I wasnt going to play this season just because of the whitelist :p
(I might play after all though, but prob not in prem)[/quote]
Double demoknight strat for high confirmed ( sil vs damneasy ), that will be intresting. hehe.
Best of luck :)
Im fine with this whitelist tbh, i think that jarate is a little controversial, but since the main point for it being banned in the conversation seemed to be its spammabilty, it could be only a huge problem on some maps, which is an issue on its own. The jarate kinda takes a way the need for focus fire, the person coated in piss is almost has a "FUCKING FOCUS ME SINCE I TAKE MORE DAMAGE" sign above their face. Otherwise, i think jarate can be (hopefully) dealt with, as it does give a little bit more wiggle room into the meta... not much doe, plz don't run full time snipes in scrims to retaliate the strength of jarate D: Thx :)
Im fine with this whitelist tbh, i think that jarate is a little controversial, but since the main point for it being banned in the conversation seemed to be its spammabilty, it could be only a huge problem on some maps, which is an issue on its own. The jarate kinda takes a way the need for focus fire, the person coated in piss is almost has a "FUCKING FOCUS ME SINCE I TAKE MORE DAMAGE" sign above their face. Otherwise, i think jarate can be (hopefully) dealt with, as it does give a little bit more wiggle room into the meta... not much doe, plz don't run full time snipes in scrims to retaliate the strength of jarate D: Thx :)
Jarate has been around for a full season in EU and it's never been gamebreaking. Never seen anyone running full sniper in scrims, and if you cant win vs a full sniper you don't deserve to win anyway.
Jarate has been around for a full season in EU and it's never been gamebreaking. Never seen anyone running full sniper in scrims, and if you cant win vs a full sniper you don't deserve to win anyway.
Rescue ranger banned, quick fix still banned. Jarate is still unbanned but w/e.
Strange that there aren't any new maps but I guess the admins felt like there wasn't anything worthy of replacing reckoner.
Overall, good call admins glad you came to this decision :D
Rescue ranger banned, quick fix still banned. Jarate is still unbanned but w/e.
Strange that there aren't any new maps but I guess the admins felt like there wasn't anything worthy of replacing reckoner.
Overall, good call admins glad you came to this decision :D
T0mRescue ranger banned, quick fix still banned. Jarate is still unbanned but w/e.
Strange that there aren't any new maps but I guess the admins felt like there wasn't anything worthy of replacing reckoner.
Overall, good call admins glad you came to this decision :D
bagel was worthy to replace product tbh
[quote=T0m]Rescue ranger banned, quick fix still banned. Jarate is still unbanned but w/e.
Strange that there aren't any new maps but I guess the admins felt like there wasn't anything worthy of replacing reckoner.
Overall, good call admins glad you came to this decision :D[/quote]
bagel was worthy to replace product tbh
CaeliT0mRescue ranger banned, quick fix still banned. Jarate is still unbanned but w/e.
Strange that there aren't any new maps but I guess the admins felt like there wasn't anything worthy of replacing reckoner.
Overall, good call admins glad you came to this decision :D
bagel was worthy to replace product tbh
I dont know how good bagel is, but dont replace the only koth we have with another one, just make on of these 5cps go away
[quote=Caeli][quote=T0m]Rescue ranger banned, quick fix still banned. Jarate is still unbanned but w/e.
Strange that there aren't any new maps but I guess the admins felt like there wasn't anything worthy of replacing reckoner.
Overall, good call admins glad you came to this decision :D[/quote]
bagel was worthy to replace product tbh[/quote]
I dont know how good bagel is, but dont replace the only koth we have with another one, just make on of these 5cps go away
now that the ranger is banned were gonna have that guy on process last spamming his pomson into shutter and rollout
now that the ranger is banned were gonna have that guy on process last spamming his pomson into shutter and rollout
when have you ever seen jarate be legitimately game breaking? Hitting multiple players is rare, and if you're a sniper within range of hitting someone with jarate you're probably too far forward to begin with and you're risking your life. Even if you hit the med with it and sack a player, you still have a sniper and you're down a player. Yeah, it's annoying, I can see that, but if it was really that good you would see full time snipers.
when have you ever seen jarate be legitimately game breaking? Hitting multiple players is rare, and if you're a sniper within range of hitting someone with jarate you're probably too far forward to begin with and you're risking your life. Even if you hit the med with it and sack a player, you still have a sniper and you're down a player. Yeah, it's annoying, I can see that, but if it was really that good you would see full time snipers.
good enough for me i guess
good enough for me i guess
By that logic, Rescue Ranger wasn't overpowered because there weren't any full-time Engineers.
You don't need to hit more than one thing to get a fuckton of value from Jarate.
By that logic, Rescue Ranger wasn't overpowered because there weren't any full-time Engineers.
You don't need to hit more than one thing to get a fuckton of value from Jarate.
quick-fix banned
there is a god
quick-fix banned
there is a god
Whitelist ID is incorrect, the Second Rate Sorcery taunt should also be allowed, new whitelist is then 6853
Whitelist ID is incorrect, the [i]Second Rate Sorcery[/i] taunt should also be allowed, new whitelist is then 6853
WiethoofdWhitelist ID is incorrect, the Second Rate Sorcery taunt should also be allowed, new whitelist is then 6853
fixed
[quote=Wiethoofd]Whitelist ID is incorrect, the [i]Second Rate Sorcery[/i] taunt should also be allowed, new whitelist is then 6853[/quote]
fixed
OmbrackCaeliT0mRescue ranger banned, quick fix still banned. Jarate is still unbanned but w/e.
Strange that there aren't any new maps but I guess the admins felt like there wasn't anything worthy of replacing reckoner.
Overall, good call admins glad you came to this decision :D
bagel was worthy to replace product tbh
I dont know how good bagel is, but dont replace the only koth we have with another one, just make on of these 5cps go away
remove badlands
[quote=Ombrack][quote=Caeli][quote=T0m]Rescue ranger banned, quick fix still banned. Jarate is still unbanned but w/e.
Strange that there aren't any new maps but I guess the admins felt like there wasn't anything worthy of replacing reckoner.
Overall, good call admins glad you came to this decision :D[/quote]
bagel was worthy to replace product tbh[/quote]
I dont know how good bagel is, but dont replace the only koth we have with another one, just make on of these 5cps go away[/quote]
remove badlands
ESEA and ozfortress are also using the same whitelist for their next seasons.
UGC is following the bans and unbans except for the Pomson unban.
ESEA and ozfortress are also using the same whitelist for their next seasons.
UGC is following the bans and unbans except for the Pomson unban.
WiethoofdUGC is following the bans and unbans except for the Pomson unban.
Why though?
Did they forget what the word "unified" means with these whitelist discussions? Or do they really want to be special little snowflakes?
[quote=Wiethoofd]UGC is following the bans and unbans except for the Pomson unban.[/quote]
Why though?
Did they forget what the word "unified" means with these whitelist discussions? Or do they really want to be special little snowflakes?
BloodisWiethoofdUGC is following the bans and unbans except for the Pomson unban.
Why though?
Did they forget what the word "unified" means with these whitelist discussions? Or do they really want to be special little snowflakes?
Probably because their league is a masse of crying children who get their way.
[quote=Bloodis][quote=Wiethoofd]UGC is following the bans and unbans except for the Pomson unban.[/quote]
Why though?
Did they forget what the word "unified" means with these whitelist discussions? Or do they really want to be special little snowflakes?[/quote]
Probably because their league is a masse of crying children who get their way.
Jarate is definitely fucking retarded hope tri says fuck you to this global whitelist shit
Jarate is definitely fucking retarded hope tri says fuck you to this global whitelist shit
wtzOmbrackCaeliT0mRescue ranger banned, quick fix still banned. Jarate is still unbanned but w/e.
Strange that there aren't any new maps but I guess the admins felt like there wasn't anything worthy of replacing reckoner.
Overall, good call admins glad you came to this decision :D
bagel was worthy to replace product tbh
I dont know how good bagel is, but dont replace the only koth we have with another one, just make on of these 5cps go away
remove badlands
Granary? (Or metal works for na)
[quote=wtz][quote=Ombrack][quote=Caeli][quote=T0m]Rescue ranger banned, quick fix still banned. Jarate is still unbanned but w/e.
Strange that there aren't any new maps but I guess the admins felt like there wasn't anything worthy of replacing reckoner.
Overall, good call admins glad you came to this decision :D[/quote]
bagel was worthy to replace product tbh[/quote]
I dont know how good bagel is, but dont replace the only koth we have with another one, just make on of these 5cps go away[/quote]
remove badlands[/quote]
Granary? (Or metal works for na)
BloodisWhy though?
Did they forget what the word "unified" means with these whitelist discussions? Or do they really want to be special little snowflakes?
MalloryI was asked to make a quick note about it on tf.tv and this seemed like the most recent thread on the topic.
Because the UGC season continued on schedule despite the ESEA season being postponed, we were unable to wait for the results of the second whitelist meeting and had to come up with our own to give to our players. We are sticking with the whitelist from the previous season, with the addition of a rescue ranger ban and a dalokohs bar unban. The status of the other unlocks discussed in the whitelist meeting will remain unchanged due to the split views the community has regarding their use. All of our 6s admins always appreciate player input and we look forward to continuing to participate in the global whitelist in future seasons.
Thanks a lot Slin for organizing the meeting. I know how much work it is to prepare to get a bunch of people into a single mumble at one time.
Our decision was made while we were in communication with admins from other leagues, which is why the whitelists are basically the same except for that one difference.
[quote=Bloodis]Why though?
Did they forget what the word "unified" means with these whitelist discussions? Or do they really want to be special little snowflakes?[/quote]
[quote=Mallory]I was asked to make a quick note about it on tf.tv and this seemed like the most recent thread on the topic.
Because the UGC season continued on schedule despite the ESEA season being postponed, we were unable to wait for the results of the second whitelist meeting and had to come up with our own to give to our players. We are sticking with the whitelist from the previous season, with the addition of a rescue ranger ban and a dalokohs bar unban. The status of the other unlocks discussed in the whitelist meeting will remain unchanged due to the split views the community has regarding their use. All of our 6s admins always appreciate player input and we look forward to continuing to participate in the global whitelist in future seasons.
Thanks a lot Slin for organizing the meeting. I know how much work it is to prepare to get a bunch of people into a single mumble at one time.[/quote]
Our decision was made while we were in communication with admins from other leagues, which is why the whitelists are basically the same except for that one difference.
YeeHawwtzOmbrackCaeliT0mRescue ranger banned, quick fix still banned. Jarate is still unbanned but w/e.
Strange that there aren't any new maps but I guess the admins felt like there wasn't anything worthy of replacing reckoner.
Overall, good call admins glad you came to this decision :D
bagel was worthy to replace product tbh
I dont know how good bagel is, but dont replace the only koth we have with another one, just make on of these 5cps go away
remove badlands
Granary? (Or metal works for na)
-badlands
-granary
+bagel
+sunshine
badlands is such a boring map while sunshine is v fun as all classes
[quote=YeeHaw][quote=wtz][quote=Ombrack][quote=Caeli][quote=T0m]Rescue ranger banned, quick fix still banned. Jarate is still unbanned but w/e.
Strange that there aren't any new maps but I guess the admins felt like there wasn't anything worthy of replacing reckoner.
Overall, good call admins glad you came to this decision :D[/quote]
bagel was worthy to replace product tbh[/quote]
I dont know how good bagel is, but dont replace the only koth we have with another one, just make on of these 5cps go away[/quote]
remove badlands[/quote]
Granary? (Or metal works for na)[/quote]
-badlands
-granary
+bagel
+sunshine
badlands is such a boring map while sunshine is v fun as all classes
wtz-badlands
badlands is such a boring map while sunshine is v fun as all classes
people like you need to have their voting passes revoked in tf2
[quote=wtz]
-badlands
badlands is such a boring map while sunshine is v fun as all classes[/quote]
people like you need to have their voting passes revoked in tf2
MalloryOur decision was made while we were in communication with admins from other leagues, which is why the whitelists are basically the same except for that one difference.
That is a very stupid decision, there are two options that make sense. Follow the global whitelist or make your own whitelist that is significantly different in an attempt to try get players who REALLY dislike the global whitelist, this would mean going basically to vanilla items. I mean UGC doesnt have a great history of decision making but this one i dont understand at all, you go against the point of a unified whitelist at the gain of a pomson ban?
[quote=Mallory]
Our decision was made while we were in communication with admins from other leagues, which is why the whitelists are basically the same except for that one difference.[/quote]
That is a very stupid decision, there are two options that make sense. Follow the global whitelist or make your own whitelist that is significantly different in an attempt to try get players who REALLY dislike the global whitelist, this would mean going basically to vanilla items. I mean UGC doesnt have a great history of decision making but this one i dont understand at all, you go against the point of a unified whitelist at the gain of a pomson ban?