u better put a not real nigga tag or an asterisk or something

I didn't know violating traffic laws and endangering lives were equivalent to aimbotting in pubs.
edit: in terms of harm caused

lotta stupid shit is getting said here but cheating in a league setting vs spinbotting on a jailbreak map are two very different things please stop using slippery slope shit to equate them

It is perfectly fine for all of us regular players to have different opinions on what level of cheating is acceptable. Some ppl like me wish for a return to 0 tolerance but others want game specific bans and offer the famous loophole "well he didn't cheat at LAN"

It has always been up to our league admins to set the standard when it comes to cheating/cheaters. In the old days, we had 0 tolerance and it did not matter if u got caught in a pub or a match. Maybe that is why I can't change my mind or feel differently about cheating and likely never will.

mason you're a pretty smart dude, and make a lot of really good posts with good counter points and general discussion, but this shit is straight up ignorant man.

I don't get what people are up in arms about either. What difference does it make if someone straps on a cheat in another game to fuck around in a pub? Completely different to a competitive setting.

yeah i too enjoy ruining other people's fun in video games to feel good about myself

For real tho, if you ever copied someone's hw in school, you are a bad person too. You need to report yourself to the academic dishonesty board

It has always been up to our academic board to set the standard when it comes to copying hw . In the old days, we had 0 tolerance and it did not matter if u got caught in school or at home . Maybe that is why I can't change my mind or feel differently about copying hw and likely never will.

I dont think it would make much of a difference if you used hacks or not vs pubbers, they will still get destroyed.

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The ban has already been lifted, y'all need to chill the fuck out.

I agree
If I had it my way vacs of any sort would have you get kicked out of leagues.

Not everyone is a piece of garbage who cheats man

That's typical bullshit. "Oh everyone else cheats so that normalizes my behavior".

They don't. It doesn't. You're a dick if you cheat. End of story.

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don't patronize him. this is his true form

ha. next ur gonna say i cheated?

i secretly looked at ppls shoes during heads up seven up to get an unfair advantage, please give me a lifetime community ban

I didn't say it made him a good person or that he improved people's lives by cheating. He got a ban, that's the end of it.

It displays a fundamental part of your character. If you're willing to cheat in a game, you can't be trusted to not cheat elsewhere. It's pretty much that simple.

If you want to draw wide ranging conclusions about Mirelin's character from his CS ban feel free.

fuck i remember using a tf2 item hack and getting my 360 jtagged years ago

gogdam i was reTardED

it's not that black and white, one decision doesn't define who you are.
surely you must've had one bad decision, one decision that hurt others - would you let others define you from that one experience?

Being a dick at one part of your life doesn't mean you have to be a dick for the rest of eternity. People change.

>I think it is up to me how I treat my account. I wanted to cheat in CS:GO, I cheated in CS:GO. I had a lot of fun, was cool to destroy other spinbotters :D

>Hey NKF. Cheating in CS:GO is like a tradition and super fun. Last game I was playing against 5 spinbotters. My spinbot was better, hence we won :D

I think you have downs geel
How does it display a fundamental part of your character ROFL? just because you cheat online for one day doesn't mean it defines your character. they aren't trying to go pro, they aren't trying to gain a reputation for being a good player, they aren't trying to ruin the experience for everyone else, they're messing around. Of course, I don't approve of cheating because it does ruin the experience for others but you can always report and move on.

why are you acting like this game is so important compared to regular life? compared to other things, I'd rather cheat in a game because of the weak repercussions. Sure, your rep is down the drain but you can always start again in another game right? You aren't going to be persecuted, nobody you really care about will know.

phrakture got fucking shit on when he got a vac, one of the highlights of my time in tf2

cheating is bad always
cheating is more despicable when it's done during a league/tournament because it affects actual results
therefore these things are not the same though both really dumb and bad
mason has a valid argument here
don't cheat

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stereotyping cheaters has the same effect as stereotyping anyone else
sometimes your stereotyping will be more accurate than not
sometimes your stereotyping will cause you to completely misevaluate someone's character

i definitely didnt say its ok to cheat and ruin pubs theres an inherent difference between 'im gonna make a bunch of 13 year olds on a jump server mad' and 'im gonna win cevo main because they have a shitty anticheat'

if the dudes at a point in his life where he isnt playing games anymore and wants to cheat one time just to see what its like in a pub before he quits games, can you really use that one lapse in judgement as an excuse to make a snap judgement about his character?

i get that integrity of the game means different things to different people, but come on, have a little humanity

I wasn't saying that makes it alright, just saying that it's a counter to the idea that people excuse cheating when it's a high-level player, rather than because of this